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Yeah I'm not sure why the wrist slitting over MLK. Forget it. That's a good look going forward with good model agreement like Snowgoose said. Is it Jan 2011, probably not..but I'll take it.

 

 

The MLK threat is a total mirage to me right now. I just don't see much outside of NNE...we'd have to get extremely lucky.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'd take it for sure if we did, but I am not going to be holding my breath each model run.

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For those focused on MLK you want to see this setup.....I assume SNE did pretty good, we got 4-6 inches on LI but notice as how CoastalWX said earlier what we want with this one...this event had a low at 700mb

 

http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/NARR/1993/us1211.php

this produced up to 8" in south jersey and it also had a closed 700mb low

http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/NARR/2006/us0115.php

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Yup..I'm telling you..the Sunday night one is the one to watch..not the crap clipper. Don't get too crazy ..but it's got far more potential and a better chance at happening than the sheared out mess behind it

 

The clipper will have big potential if the first system explodes because it will act as a -NAO so the clipper will be able to slow and perhaps redevelop off the MA coast.

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Yup..I'm telling you..the Sunday night one is the one to watch..not the crap clipper. Don't get too crazy ..but it's got far more potential and a better chance at happening than the sheared out mess behind it

 

I guess maybe hopes for an inch or two don't have to be astronomical for you, but you are talking an awful lot about something both questionable and meager.

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The MLK system looks to be more amplified than originally thought and now seems like a real player in our atmospheric hemisphere for the time being and could act as a 50/50 low for the clipper system in question for next Tuesday/Wednesday.  Now in order for this to work out so we can cash in on the clipper, we need this anafrontal low to maneuver itself towards the 50N/50W benchmark.

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And JCT CT said something about the Euro being a Weenie Run at 120hrs...can someone elaborate on just what he saw?  

 

WinterWolf, check out my reply in the banter thread. It is more appropriate there, and I think you will be pleasantly disappointed with what I saw.

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12z gfs drops Monday qpf for AUG by an inch - to about 1.75".  However, it shows a cold rain, on north winds, from a storm center tracking Montauk-Cape Cod-HUL.  I could understand that happening on Halloween or Patriot's Day, but it's the bottom of winter.  Shows once again how little I know about how weather works.  ;)

 

 

whats curious to me is exactly what you describe, all that cold getting scoured out happens but with North winds, ah somethings amiss

 

 

Here's how:

 

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More specifically, if the 850mb low goes to your north, you're gonna mix or rain.

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the MLK system is more amplified along with the atlantic ridge ahead of it

 

 

The MLK system looks to be more amplified than originally thought and now seems like a real player in our atmospheric hemisphere for the time being and could act as a 50/50 low for the clipper system in question for next Tuesday/Wednesday.  Now in order for this to work out so we can cash in on the clipper, we need this anafrontal low to maneuver itself towards the 50N/50W benchmark.

 

 

Can people please start including which model and run they're referring to?  I know that this has to be the 18Z GFS based on time of day, but it makes reading through multiple pages much more difficult to follow along without labels.  Kthx

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18Z GFS phases earlier and far enough offshore to wrap in the cold air sooner. A changeover with a couple inches in interior NCT and higher amounts as you move north and east from northern ORH into Central and Northern New England. Just one run but something to watch.  

congrats Dendrite 

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Northerly winds don"t rain in interior Maine in winter, sleet or ice

 

Freezing rain is a self-limiting process due to latent heat release.  A cold northerly fetch at the sfc can usually make up for it, but in this case very heavy qpf can actually work against you.  (as opposed to the more typical / oppose scenario where you have warm right at the sfc and cold above where you need the heavy qpf)

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