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Well knowing the Gfs is wrong with those ideas and that the euro is more correct leading up to next week. You are right though.. There's not many of us left that haven't melted. Maybe 5-10 of us.

 

It's a pattern that allows for cutters and overrunners. Of course nobody knows this far out, but I would expect both.

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Do we have signals for systems though or are we talking cold and dry?

 

 

Maybe something around 1/25...I'm not even convinced the 1/21-22 threat can't be snow, esp for the interior, though that is the one that originally looked like a cutter, so we will see as we get closer.

 

But the ensemble mean is not going to show systems really once past about D12-13...the end of the run just gets too diffuse. But the cold signal today is quite strong for late month.

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Maybe something around 1/25...I'm not even convinced the 1/21-22 threat can't be snow, esp for the interior, though that is the one that originally looked like a cutter, so we will see as we get closer.

 

But the ensemble mean is not going to show systems really once past about D12-13...the end of the run just gets too diffuse. But the cold signal today is quite strong for late month.

 

That 1/21 deal is something to sort of watch.

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The potential problem I see on the ensembles for the GFS/Euro the last 2-3 days beyond Day 8 is that there could be a -PNA/-EPO again, IMO that ain't gonna cut it, we'll have the same F'ng problem again with stuff cutting west of us and a SE ridge...some other members though suggest +PNA/-EPO...if that verifies we're in business big time.

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Do they agree with op on no warm up to AN?

 

Sunday still looks kind of mildish...we'll have a few above normal days, but they look kind of weak...like highs in the mid to upper 30s for a day or two (maybe 40s in the torch spots)...the storm after MLK day will obviously play a factor, if it ends up west of us, then we will definitely have a really mild day, but it's looking less likely now that it will go west.

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Sunday still looks kind of mildish...we'll have a few above normal days, but they look kind of weak...like highs in the mid to upper 30s for a day or two (maybe 40s in the torch spots)...the storm after MLK day will obviously play a factor, if it ends up west of us, then we will definitely have a really mild day, but it's looking less likely now that it will go west.

Good news all around . Last thing we need are a few Sunny mild days . Any chance that 1/21 deal ends up shredded out south of us?
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Good news all around . Last thing we need are a few Sunny mild days . Any chance that 1/21 deal ends up shredded out south of us?

 

It wouldn't shock me at all. The ensemble mean is pretty weak looking actually and it's south of us.

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It's coming,the constant angst will soon be relieved.

 

Its still going to end up a below normal snow winter, the only exception would be we get a KU event which is entirely possible but right now my guesses for the bigger cities on winter snow are BOS - 28, NYC - 18, ORH - 55, PVD - 22...thats pretty disgustingly bad, I'm assuming no KU, if that happens then those could be at least 12 inches higher.

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It didn't in 11-12, so why would it this winter? Maybe for you northerners. 

 

This isn't that winter.  This is a weak El Nino with good cold nearby.  That winter was warm even in Canada.  I agree with those thinking it won't be a true dead ratter.  I'm not saying above normal snowfall season is about to happen... I just think you guys at some point will rattle off at least a 2-3 week period that brings some joy.  Folks like Ray/40/70 aren't going another month with 1-5" of snowfall.  I think climo will catch up with that to some point. 

 

Maybe its just one 6-12" event and a couple advisory events or something, but you'll get a wintery period.  I'm not ready to toss that.  February is the snowiest month on average in SNE, right? 

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