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Have we had any legit threats f winter wx on the models inside of 4 days since the thanksgiving storm? We had 12/9-10 but that was mostly a CNE/NNE deal and was actually pretty consistent on guidance inside of day 4. It did show some decent solutions in the day 5/6 range before it got delayed an extra day which killed our chances in SNE for the most part.

But we haven't had a legit threat inside of 100 hours in a long long time.

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not OTS like you thought the other day?

I didn't think out to sea as much as a MA event, the second system which the euro has was the one I felt a better chance it would go OTS. The overrunning event on the GFS sort of finds a way to come up at the worst time between the 2 high pressure centers, 24 hours either side it's more frozen and south

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hmm, that is a downgrade from Wills inside 120/96 rule from years back. They screwed with the upgrade and degraded it. I'm sure someone will post how the 5H scores over Northern Hemisphere have improved but we follow this darn thing every 12 hrs and know its degraded in the 4-8 day range to the point of being just another model.

It's the operational details that count though. Not whether it has a storm 5 days out.

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I didn't think out to sea as much as a MA event, the second system which the euro has was the one I felt a better chance it would go OTS. The overrunning event on the GFS sort of finds a way to come up at the worst time between the 2 high pressure centers, 24 hours either side it's more frozen and south

I think that is a nice overunning event for us

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I didn't think out to sea as much as a MA event, the second system which the euro has was the one I felt a better chance it would go OTS. The overrunning event on the GFS sort of finds a way to come up at the worst time between the 2 high pressure centers, 24 hours either side it's more frozen and south

Well it's frozen for SNE

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Scraper.

Thank You.  Just a question, the theme so far anyway, seems to never quite get all the pieces of the puzzle to come together this year. Now I realize that we don't need a perfect pattern to get snow, but we just can't seem to put together anything of substance so far this season.  

 

Could this very well be the theme for this winter?? Sure seems it?  The winter that can't seem to get it together??

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Thank You.  Just a question, the theme so far anyway, seems to never quite get all the pieces of the puzzle to come together this year. Now I realize that we don't need a perfect pattern to get snow, but we just can't seem to put together anything of substance so far this season.  

 

Could this very well be the theme for this winter?? Sure seems it?  The winter that can't seem to get it together??

 

It's been that way so far, but you really can't use persistence in a pattern like this. If one little piece of the puzzle changes, such as a big Yukon ridge or even less less of a +NAO..then all bets are off and you can have a gravy train. Features like that simply cannot be seen or predicted this far out. If I had to guess...we will make a run at some point later this month or Feb. 

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It's been that way so far, but you really can't use persistence in a pattern like this. If one little piece of the puzzle changes, such as a big Yukon ridge or even less less of a +NAO..then all bets are off and you can have a gravy train. Features like that simply cannot be seen or predicted this far out. If I had to guess...we will make a run at some point later this month or Feb. 

Thank You for that great reply....I do appreciate it.  Sheds some light on things for sure.  :-)

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