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New Years' Weekend Snow Potential


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Why even bother with the gfs, pgfs, gefs, etc al?

Ride the euro and call it a day

 

 

Lol. Much too early to punt on this one yet.

 

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I'm riding the Canadian train.

 

The Euro has been flipping almost as bad as the GFS, PGFS, etc. As I said the other day, I'm still aboard the GGEM. With one exception (the 12/29 00z run), it has been the most consistent with the track of the surface low through the Ohio Valley for several days.

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The Euro has been flipping almost as bad as the GFS, PGFS, etc. As I said the other day, I'm still aboard the GGEM. With one exception (the 12/29 00z run), it has been the most consistent with the track of the surface low through the Ohio Valley for several days.

I wouldnt ride any model with this storm....but as you said, the Euro has been everywhere (not to mention theres a huge spread in its ensembles, including many NW/amped).

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The Euro has been flipping almost as bad as the GFS, PGFS, etc. As I said the other day, I'm still aboard the GGEM. With one exception (the 12/29 00z run), it has been the most consistent with the track of the surface low through the Ohio Valley for several days.

 

I will say this about the euro, (even though i have a feeling its going to bite me in the ass lol), usually when it amps a storm in the long range and then crushes it out in later runs, that's a pretty good signal (usually) that the crush will end up being closer to the real solution vs. the amped versions coming back.

 

Totally anecdotal, just something I've observed in general, although I'm sure there have been some exceptions.

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The Euro has been flipping almost as bad as the GFS, PGFS, etc. As I said the other day, I'm still aboard the GGEM. With one exception (the 12/29 00z run), it has been the most consistent with the track of the surface low through the Ohio Valley for several days.

 

Coming into this winter I had a ggem love affair hangover from last winter when it seemed to have scored some major snowfall coupes for us.  It's been HORRID this season, a complete turn around.  Or maybe it's always been horrid and last winter's coupes were blind squirrels and nuts.  

Either way, case in point, on xmas day it was showing a snowstorm thru Ohio for....tomorrow.   nuff said.  

 

All models are sucking and blowing right now....but if someone held a gun to my head and told me I had to board one of them, I'd update my will and crawl aboard the euro, trembling with tears running down my cheeks.

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Sadly, riding the Euro and calling it a day is not bad advice much of the time. But it can be and is wrong, and it can be the worst model. Maybe it happens only twice a year, but it's up to us to spot that and not get kicked in the face by a bad Euro solution. It could be right, but I think it is a touch behind the other models so far.

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I will say this about the euro, (even though i have a feeling its going to bite me in the ass lol), usually when it amps a storm in the long range and then crushes it out in later runs, that's a pretty good signal (usually) that the crush will end up being closer to the real solution vs. the amped versions coming back.

Totally anecdotal, just something I've observed in general, although I'm sure there have been some exceptions.

The Euro seems to over phase lows...so, if a low is bound to phase, the Euro might nail it first. If the Euro doesn't show a phase, you have some work to do if you want one, so I can see what you're saying. This system's track and intensity will depend largely on how quick and in what state the shortwave/cut-off ejects out of the southwest. The cut-off nature of the system favors the slower models like the Euro, UK, PGFS and to an extent the Canadian. The Euro is pretty strung out when it ejects the system hence the suppressed track. I'd give the Euro's timing the nod which argues against a far NW solution like the operational GFS, but I'd like to see if it is correct in ejecting the energy in multiple weak pieces before buying the super suppressed solution as the other models don't really do that.
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The 00z NAM just showed why running it out to 84 hours is a waste of computing resources. And now they're going to take that 84 hour solution and use it to initialize the DGEX and run it out to a week. Terrible.

 

 

Shame on you for besmirching Jonger's go to solution.  ;)

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Not gonna lie, if the EC comes in totally different than the GFS and GEM again I am going to be annoyed. Especially since the former 2 are pretty good for SE Michigan.

A majorityof the 12z EPS members were amped/more NW of the OP. That's a red flag.

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