leo1000 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Well... hideous is probably an overstatement. I was texting with Scooter who said he didn't think it was that bad. Strong +NAO signal and pretty impressive SE ridging. Definitely not very Nino like but I think we're sort of playing with fire in the coastal plain. Some EPO ridging over AK so likely some cold to be bad in CONUS. Scott was saying that a positive NAO can be sometimes be a good thing depending on where its positioned. Cutting off surges of warm pacific air. Good to see the EPO there. Perhaps we can stay cold because if it's not an El Nino pattern were in maybe its more like a neutral ENSO pattern like last winter largely driver by a Negative EPO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 As an fyi..here's a map of where the coastal plain is outlined in green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 We'll go niño like I bet in the not too distant future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 As an fyi..here's a map of where the coastal plain is outlined in green Semantics. Everyone knows what people mean on here when they say Coastal Plain and it's not the Carolinas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Semantics. Everyone knows what people mean on here when they say Coastal Plain and it's not the Carolinas. And certainly not Hartford, CT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan123 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 We'll go niño like I bet in the not too distant future.Why don't you like Nina climo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Why don't you like Nina climo? I want a big azz ku. Nina can be rough but also ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I could've told you that. You didn't have to travel here...lol. Where abouts in the province you visiting? spending the week in Windsor, farm house my brother in law has. I can see the ski hill from the backyard!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongIslandWx14 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 No snow begets no snow Euro just looks out to lunch blowing up weak s/w, gfs looks much better with just a dry cold front passage with seasonal temps behind it. Friday and Saturday should be much above normal afer the xmas storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I want a big azz ku. Nina can be rough but also okI hope this is a 2007-2008 gradient and not a Dec 2014 gradient. I'm gonna have to block powderfreak and dry slut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I hope this is a 2007-2008 gradient and not a Dec 2014 gradient. I'm gonna have to block powderfreak and dry slut. 2007-2008 style works up here too haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 18z GFS shows us anything is possible. Even a cold-cutter-cold pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 The 18z GFS looks like the pattern in February 1994, whether or not it produces that good I doubt but it looks very similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 The 18z GFS looks like the pattern in February 1994, whether or not it produces that good I doubt but it looks very similar That was a record breaking year for SNE with regard to snowfall. Great year that was....we'd get a storm a week it seemed. Then in 95-96 that winter broke the 93-94 snowfall record. Great years!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols89 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I'm too young to remember the 94 season, I was only five years old. Anyways 18z GFS is closer to something like the 12z EURO on the 29th storm system. Time will tell in future model runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I hope this is a 2007-2008 gradient and not a Dec 2014 gradient. I'm gonna have to block powderfreak and dry slut. lol 2007-2008 style works up here too haha. I would be all for another 2007-2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I'm too young to remember the 94 season, I was only five years old. Anyways 18z GFS is closer to something like the 12z EURO on the 29th storm system. Time will tell in future model runs. To bad you are too young James, it was a fabulous year if you were a winter weather lover. We did have a big January thaw that year..warm windy rain storm or two in January, but then it set back in and continued to "go to town." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Despite the fact it resembles 1994 that was also a month and a half later and also had a massive PV so odds are this gradient wouldn't setup as far south as that one did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Despite the fact it resembles 1994 that was also a month and a half later and also had a massive PV so odds are this gradient wouldn't setup as far south as that one did Absolutely!! This isn't going to be Feb of 94...but something somewhat similar would due just fine lol. Here's to hoping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo1000 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Despite the fact it resembles 1994 that was also a month and a half later and also had a massive PV so odds are this gradient wouldn't setup as far south as that one did Where does the gradient pattern set up ?. The euro weeklies, I know show a battlezone between the se ridge and the polar vortex being on our side of the globe with the negative epo ridge Honestly, this pattern is better than the one that was purported before from the Euro which indicated frigid temperatures yes but drier as well and more worry about storm suppression as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan123 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Euro weeklies actually look decent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 As an fyi..here's a map of where the coastal plain is outlined in green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderbolt Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 A quick question about The QBO what drives it is it sunspots or is it the MJO thanks Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Euro weeklies actually look decentthis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazey Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 That SE ridge could be a friend or a foe. See how it plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols89 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I don't see the 29th period as a decaying period, rather I see it as a potential storm and snow outcomes from both the 29th and 31st storms. Two back to back snowstorms. GFS is edging slowly towards the EURO and GGEM models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols89 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 00z EURO is flatter with the weekend wave of low pressure, more like the GFS with suppression the main theme of the models this evening and early morning hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 Nice runs last night for the most part. I'm not going to sweat suppression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Nice to see the system on the 28-29 still there .. Suppression ain't our problem. Bullseye now over PA and Jersey..Good place for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 What's the spread on the ens for the Sunday night storm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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