Brian5671 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Using that analogy, this subforum is pretty much the New York Jets right now.this winter is like the jets or the raiders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Valley Snowman Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Think you can make up 8 inches in 3 months? Of course. One event can get us back where we need to be it's just a matter of patience which I can be lacking at times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Think you can make up 8 inches in 3 months? He certainly can, but I would agree with him that December was on the uglier side for his location if he got 2" out of a 10" normal for the month. It may very well be a moot point in the end...or it was a foreshadowing. Who knows, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols89 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Shortwave over the WA region is further west than modeled, not that it matters at all in the end. Water vapor imagery is pretty cool tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Man, as much as this pattern sucks, I'm not minding that Jay/James smash lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 28, 2014 Author Share Posted December 28, 2014 this winter is like the jets or the raiders There's an awful lot of punting going on. Seems a little ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I think the issue is it's harder at the time to take a poor start to a snow season than it is a poor finish. If later Feb and March suck, you just look forward to spring and the whole seasons changing, baseball, sun, etc. But in December, you've got heavy heavy anticipation that has been building since those first weak Niño seasonal outlooks in August. All fall you are gearing up for it. Looking forward to the tracking, watching radar and seeing the snow falling outside, the winning model runs, etc. You think ok, I just need to get to December and this awesome weak Niño season where everyone is forecasting big above normal snows will get started. Then you get there and December blows chunks for your location. So anticipation+ turns to disappointment+. I can see why some have the angst in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols89 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Scott, I think the 31st event is closest to good as we are going to get for the next 10 days, regardless of the cold weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Valley Snowman Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 It's way too early to call this winter the Jets or Raiders just slow out of the gate but still a lot of talented players(State of the Nino,EPO,PDO,AMO, analogs etc.,) that have the potential to produce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I'd rather a cold/snowy December over February any day. In December, looking forward to the Holiday season, is when I want some snow. February, give me an early Spring. Just my personal preference. So I can see why people would be disappointed with a lame December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I'd rather a cold/snowy December over February any day. In December, looking forward to the Holiday season, is when I want some snow. February, give me an early Spring. Just my personal preference. So I can see why people would be disappointed with a lame December.If it were cold and snowy 12 months a year I would not complain. I wouldn't mind not seeing grass ever again if it meant it was buried in snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I could be completely off-base (I probably am) but a dead ratter that's coming up on my radar is 1979-80. This chart shows the tri-monthly ONI values and although OND and NDJ are not yet out for this year, I couldn't help but notice the similarity to 1979 with the SON ONI value being identical to 2014. I am no expert and maybe it's meaningless...I will let someone else comment on that. These two figures show a similar temperature anomaly distribution for December 1979 and for the past two weeks of December 2014 (I charted the last 14 days instead of the last 30 because it seemed like the below normal temperatures from the end of November were skewing the anomalies). Again, not sure if this means much, but I found it interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I've sorta liked taking walks the last couple of days with no heavy coat and boots. Skiing at 8AM though so gotta be up at 6:30 That mess on the Euro for Jan 4 will come in colder methinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 That is my worst winter on record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 That is my worst winter on record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 That is my worst winter on record. I see zero indication of a Jan 1980 pattern, no ridge west of AK for one, cold is firmly entrenched in Canada, snow cover is extensive in Canada. Zero similarities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 That is my worst winter on record. Yeah, terrible at BDL (16.4"). I'm not trying to alarm anyone or cancel winter, just making observations. The November QBO values are almost the same too...-23.33 (1979) and -23.65 (2014). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 That was a great winter for the mid Atlantic wasn't it? Suppression depression right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Yeah, terrible at BDL (16.4"). I'm not trying to alarm anyone or cancel winter, just making observations. The November QBO values are almost the same too...-23.33 (1979) and -23.65 (2014). If it were only that easy. The hemispheric pattern even today is not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I see zero indication of a Jan 1980 pattern, no ridge west of AK for one, cold is firmly entrenched in Canada, snow cover is extensive in Canada. Zero similarities Yeah, you are probably right Steve. Looking at H5 instead of just numbers on a chart, doesn't look like we are headed toward this pattern: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 That was a great winter for the mid Atlantic wasn't it? Suppression depression right? One good storm I guess makes a great winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Yeah, you are probably right Steve. Looking at H5 instead of just numbers on a chart, doesn't look like we are headed toward this pattern: jSsjy9Smqg.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 28, 2014 Author Share Posted December 28, 2014 What is that jan 11 2015 image from? That's not gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Yeah, you are probably right Steve. Looking at H5 instead of just numbers on a chart, doesn't look like we are headed toward this pattern: jSsjy9Smqg.png Lol, I saw this in the Jan. thread, what is this from? CFS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 That was a great winter for the mid Atlantic wasn't it? Suppression depression right? You are thinking of Jan 79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 What is that jan 11 2015 image from? That's not gonna happen. GFS NOAA ESRL< see the Jan thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 28, 2014 Author Share Posted December 28, 2014 GEFS NOAA ESRL< see the Jan thread Yeah that scale is funny. It's still a big +NAO but that makes it look almost negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Yeah that scale is funny. It's still a big +NAO but that makes it look almost negative. I look at height lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 28, 2014 Author Share Posted December 28, 2014 I look at height lines Yeah that and not being on a phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Yeah that and not being on a phoneyea so happy my son built me a Mac mini, it's sweet. On my phone now watching more disaster movies, Nova stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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