dta1984 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Great forecast OHweather ! Sounds like it's going to be a fun start to the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Been snowing the past hour or so Light dusting on the grass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Had a nice coating earlier. Doesn't look like the snow will have much trouble sticking on the grass. The radar is lighting up over the lake. It will be fun to see what happens when that pushes onshore later today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Good bursts sticking almost immediately with this band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 There's a nice band on the far west side in Lorain county. Ground is white here....maybe 1". No snow currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Same here, roughly 1" and not much going on ATM. Montville has already seen 4", so it looks like amounts from that band ranged from about half an inch to 4". That band west and south of Cleveland has been doing some work...someone in Medina County or maybe even Lorain County will end up with over 4". Lake effect appears to be picking up upstream off of southern Lake Huron and winds will shift a bit more so I'm sure we'll see coverage increase and see bands shift to areas currently not seeing snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Goes without saying CLE needed an advisory, seeing as though: 1) First accumulating snow of the season 2) Very windy, causing very low visibility in these bands 3) Some spots will hit the criteria outright anyways But, you know when the ground temp is in the upper 40s or whatever it is it may as well be a frying pan and nothing will stick at all until 8" falls. While I'm ranting, while I don't mind positive busts in the lake effect department, I'm annoyed about missing that bigger band on the west side. That type of band is always possible when the winds go from WSW to NW and swing a primary band inland, but I really thought with a WNW flow the band would be 5-10 miles north of where it ended up. I also wasn't confident in it occurring, so I really underdid amounts in that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osubrett2 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 My parents ended up with just under 4" down in the Youngstown area. Didn't follow the Cleveland or Pittsburgh radar closely last night, but very surprised they saw that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 A little under an inch and a half here. Definitely expected more. I think the strong winds helped locations farther south and west do better than the normal locations. We'll see what reports come up but this will be an ugly verification for my nap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Right around 2" on the deck here. Glad that the season has started . Now looking forward to a multi day heavy les event! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted November 20, 2016 Author Share Posted November 20, 2016 It was nice to see snow again. I picked up 0.3", enough to whiten the ground. I see CLE picked up 0.6" last night. CLE should finally record their first freeze tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Going north on 306, accumulations looked fairly consistent with 2-3" until you hit 90 where it was bare grass. Pretty much bare on 90 until Ashtabula then it started picking up a little . I'm in Erie for a few days and there's probably 4-6" here and still snowing . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Right around 2" imby. Looks and feels like Winter out there. Was hoping for more but its a start. The high winds and cold temps have no doubt cooled the western basin. Let's leave some in the tank for the next LES opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 Looks like November will probably end as another top 5 warmest month on record. This pattern has to break soon? December can still be 2 degrees below normal and this would still wind up being Cleveland's warmest year on record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 Month after month the warmth continues. November ended up finishing 2nd warmest on record for Cleveland. June - 11th warmest July - 4th warmest August - warmest on record September - 2nd warmest October - 8th warmest November - 2nd warmest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 13 minutes ago, Trent said: Month after month the warmth continues. November ended up finishing 2nd warmest on record for Cleveland. June - 11th warmest July - 4th warmest August - warmest on record September - 2nd warmest October - 8th warmest November - 2nd warmest That's incredible ! How far does the warmth stretch ? Is it region wide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 2 hours ago, dta1984 said: That's incredible ! How far does the warmth stretch ? Is it region wide? Most of the Midwest had a top 5 warmest fall, with many stations coming in at warmest or second warmest. December needs to average 30.4 degrees or warmer for 2016 to be Cleveland's warmest year on record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 12 minutes ago, Trent said: Most of the Midwest had a top 5 warmest fall, with many stations coming in at warmest or second warmest. December needs to average 30.4 degrees or warmer for 2016 to be Cleveland's warmest year on record. It has been a crazy warm year. I was near the lake earlier in the week and there were still some leaves on the trees. Pattern finally cools off next week... but it would seem extremely hard for this not to be the warmest on record at CLE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 8 minutes ago, NEOH said: It has been a crazy warm year. I was near the lake earlier in the week and there were still some leaves on the trees. Pattern finally cools off next week... but it would seem extremely hard for this not to be the warmest on record at CLE. Hopefully a good lake effect setup isn't too far behind the cool down . Would hate to waste the warm lake temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 I can see it now. There will be a prolonged significant lake effect event next week but the winds will be SW. The western basin will see water temps plunge into the mid 30s, we'll get a dusting of snow, and south of Buffalo will get 3 feet. Book it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 19 minutes ago, OHweather said: I can see it now. There will be a prolonged significant lake effect event next week but the winds will be SW. The western basin will see water temps plunge into the mid 30s, we'll get a dusting of snow, and south of Buffalo will get 3 feet. Book it. Noooooo! Ahh a little reverse psychology . ...gotcha haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 16 minutes ago, dta1984 said: Noooooo! Ahh a little reverse psychology . ...gotcha haha. A big cutter that goes way to our north always struggles to bring the winds around to WNW, so it's a real concern. But maybe my unbridled pessimism nearly a week out will be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 The GFS and Euro runs today do bring winds around to the WNW at some point with the first cold snap late next week...really depends on how quickly/when/if a cutter blows up on the leading edge of the cold. If it blows up to our east or not at all, as opposed to cutting well to our west, we may have a prayer of bringing the winds around to the WNW. The setup looks conducive to a significant lake effect event, somewhere...all depends on the wind direction. This forecast sounding from the GFS is pure porn for the Cleveland metro and Geauga County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Cle does mention a significant event with westerly winds.....hoping they are more wnw as owhether mentions. One thing is for sure...finally getting into a wintry period. The lr clown maps are fun to look at again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 It's nice to finally stop talking about all the records for how warm it's been and start talking snow. Interestingly, the CLE radar is going to be down this week for upgrades. That should make tracking the potential lake effect event this week extra painful as the neighboring radars won't be picking up these bands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Looks like the models have the abandoned the big cutter idea thankfully. Otherwise OH Weather's nightmare scenario would probably happen. Let's just get the wind around from 280 or more and we'll be in business. Nice look on the models right now... hopefully it holds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London snowsquall Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 48 minutes ago, NEOH said: Looks like the models have the abandoned the big cutter idea thankfully. Otherwise OH Weather's nightmare scenario would probably happen. Let's just get the wind around from 280 or more and we'll be in business. Nice look on the models right now... hopefully it holds. Agreed. Approx. 280-310 would work very nicely. I've seen enough of the SWerlys over the last couple of years..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 The band may start towards Erie or SW NY initially on Thursday but it's looking like we get WNW winds for a good period late Thursday night through Friday evening with extreme instability and ample moisture...we have a couple days for adjustment obviously, but at this point it looks good for a solid warning criteria event for Cuyahoga, Lake, Geauga, along with parts of Ashtabula and NW PA and south of Buffalo. This won't be an epic event but if it's close to the GFS it'll be a decent event for a number of areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 20 hours ago, Trent said: It's nice to finally stop talking about all the records for how warm it's been and start talking snow. Interestingly, the CLE radar is going to be down this week for upgrades. That should make tracking the potential lake effect event this week extra painful as the neighboring radars won't be picking up these bands. The terminal Doppler will help for the Cleveland metro, but less than optimal timing for the nicer radar to be down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 19 hours ago, OHweather said: The band may start towards Erie or SW NY initially on Thursday but it's looking like we get WNW winds for a good period late Thursday night through Friday evening with extreme instability and ample moisture...we have a couple days for adjustment obviously, but at this point it looks good for a solid warning criteria event for Cuyahoga, Lake, Geauga, along with parts of Ashtabula and NW PA and south of Buffalo. This won't be an epic event but if it's close to the GFS it'll be a decent event for a number of areas. Sounds good! Noticed cle toned back the wording and isn't using significant . Wouls think we will see watches by tomorrow. Hopefully it pans out for a good portion of the area. Sure looks like we will be riding a fine line in the lr with snow and rain. Maybe laying down a good les snowpack will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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