Northern Ohio Obs/Discussion Part 2

[NEOH]

Picked up close to 2" from the squalls last night. There were just some remaining snow piles around so good have the ground white again. Seems like we can't get a break from the WSW flow LES events. PA/WNY have cleaned up the past couple of years. Might actually start to see some ice form on the western basin soon with temps dropping into the teens. So much for the record breaking lake temps... we've lost a lot that quickly. 

[TheClimateChanger]

10 minutes ago, NEOH said:

Picked up close to 2" from the squalls last night. There were just some remaining snow piles around so good have the ground white again. Seems like we can't get a break from the WSW flow LES events. PA/WNY have cleaned up the past couple of years. Might actually start to see some ice form on the western basin soon with temps dropping into the teens. So much for the record breaking lake temps... we've lost a lot that quickly. 

Surprised there was less talk of this. CLE picked up 3.8" yesterday, which appears to be the third snowiest calendar day dating back to February 13, 2022 - a period of about 2 years and 10 months.

[LakeEffectOH]

Had about 2" in Chesterland, but when I arrived at work, in Solon, I saw at least 6" on the picnic tables!

[NEOH]

1 hour ago, LakeEffectOH said:

Had about 2" in Chesterland, but when I arrived at work, in Solon, I saw at least 6" on the picnic tables!

Wow. There were some very localized jackpot zones with the squalls. 

[OHweather]

On 12/12/2024 at 10:58 AM, TheClimateChanger said:

Surprised there was less talk of this. CLE picked up 3.8" yesterday, which appears to be the third snowiest calendar day dating back to February 13, 2022 - a period of about 2 years and 10 months.

The idea of snow showers/squalls with the Arctic front was advertised decently well, but the localized amounts were predicted quite poorly, and the lack of a snow squall warning as that crap came in (which we can now issue without the burden of everyone’s wireless emergency alerts blowing up) probably didn’t help for anyone out and about. 

Luckily it didn’t happen 3-4 hours earlier. As it was, this “sub advisory” event in the Cleveland metro (between the squalls last evening and black ice this morning) was probably more impactful than about half of all winter weather advisory events actually are and was definitely way more impactful than the first LES Warning for Cuyahoga last week, and was more impactful than the LES warning for the inland portion of Ashtabula today. 

[OHweather]

Little clipper may graze us on Friday (though it seems like the swath of snow is targeting areas west/southwest of the Cleveland area the most), with some lake effect/enhanced snow Friday evening/night as the flow comes around to the north, with lingering lake effect in a north-northwest flow into the weekend. This doesn't look like a huge set-up, but probably will yield at least some light accumulations in areas impacted by the clipper and/or anything off the lake. 

[NEOH]

2 hours ago, OHweather said:

Little clipper may graze us on Friday (though it seems like the swath of snow is targeting areas west/southwest of the Cleveland area the most), with some lake effect/enhanced snow Friday evening/night as the flow comes around to the north, with lingering lake effect in a north-northwest flow into the weekend. This doesn't look like a huge set-up, but probably will yield at least some light accumulations in areas impacted by the clipper and/or anything off the lake. 

At least we'll have a few wintry days prior to the warm up next week. Some locations may be able to pull off a white Christmas but it will be melting. 

[OHweather]

Feeling optimistic that we’ll at least need some advisories where the Lake Huron band sets up late Friday night and Saturday. The clipper still isn’t that impressive, but should bring light snow to much of northern Ohio on Friday at least. 

[dta1984]

Should be a snowy start to the weekend.   WWA for 3-6".  Huron band seems to be modeled just east of here, but hoping it can slow down over our areas and over achieve.

[OHweather]

A bit over 2” here last night into this morning. Still seeing some off and on snow showers, but as expected the Huron band is well to my east. Maybe can squeak out another inch. 

[NEOH]

4.6" so far. The Huron band has been mostly just east of here. There will likely be a narrow corridor of 8+ totals in central Geauga. 

[vpbob21]

Picked up .6", up to 2.2" for the season.  Last year we didn't reach 2.2" until 1/14, so we're over 3 weeks ahead of last year!

[OHweather]

Picked up another 2" yesterday and last night. So, 0.4" on Friday, 2.3" Friday night, 2" Saturday into Saturday night for a 4.7" event total. Fluffy snow. Geauga and inland Ashtabula Counties will be missed LES warnings due to the Huron connection 

[NEOH]

Just over 6" for the weekend event. Very fluffy LES which has quickly settled. Nice to have snow on the ground for a few days. 

[dta1984]

Pretty consistent significant cold outbreak shown in about 2 weeks.  The lake will surely have rapidly expanding ice at that point.  Hopefully we can get a few more le snows before then.   Sure looks snowy...

[LakeEffectOH]

Hopefully we’ll get more LES this next time around than we did earlier this month due to the lakeshore hugging nature of the snow bands.

[OHweather]

Pretty good signal for periods of decent lake effect starting Wednesday or Wednesday night and lasting through Saturday with a west-northwest flow. It won't be a prodigious lake effect event, but the setup looks solid enough. 

[LakeEffectOH]

1 hour ago, OHweather said:

Pretty good signal for periods of decent lake effect starting Wednesday or Wednesday night and lasting through Saturday with a west-northwest flow. It won't be a prodigious lake effect event, but the setup looks solid enough. 

With the extended cold coming up, a good, hopefully deep, snowpack will develop over the next couple of weeks.

[NEOH]

Looking forward to getting back to Winter after yesterday's rain and wind event. Winds were ripping last night. Hopefully we can cash in on the lake effect this week. The wind direction looks pretty good for the primary snowbelt at this point. The lake will likely build ice rapidly over the next week so this may be our last shot for a significant event prior to ice cover.

[dta1984]

1 hour ago, NEOH said:

Looking forward to getting back to Winter after yesterday's rain and wind event. Winds were ripping last night. Hopefully we can cash in on the lake effect this week. The wind direction looks pretty good for the primary snowbelt at this point. The lake will likely build ice rapidly over the next week so this may be our last shot for a significant event prior to ice cover.

Definitely looks like a legit cold and snowy few weeks.  Some pretty crazy clown maps for NEOH over the next 10 days or so.  

[NEOH]

Great AFD from OHWeather this morning. 

...LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 7 AM WEDNESDAY TO 7 PM
EST THURSDAY...

* WHAT...Heavy lake effect snow expected. Total snow accumulations between 8 and 14 inches, especially in the northern two-thirds of
  Geauga County. Winds gusting as high as 35 mph.* WHERE...Geauga County.

[OHweather]

9 hours ago, NEOH said:

Great AFD from OHWeather this morning. 

...LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 7 AM WEDNESDAY TO 7 PM
EST THURSDAY...

* WHAT...Heavy lake effect snow expected. Total snow accumulations between 8 and 14 inches, especially in the northern two-thirds of
  Geauga County. Winds gusting as high as 35 mph.* WHERE...Geauga County.

There has been entirely too much to write about on these midnight shifts! Which is preferable to the other way around IMO

[NEOH]

Happy New Year! Woke up to just under an inch of paste. Nice way to kick of the year with the wet snow sticking to everything.

[OHweather]

Happy New Year! At the office in a valley in Brooklyn Heights, it struggled to change to all snow and we barely had a slushy coating on our cars. Just east of the Valley View bridge on 480 probably had close to an inch. At home in Macedonia at just about 1000 feet in elevation I measured 1.6", and a hill a mile or so to my east had noticeably more (at least 2"). 

There should be a decent uptick in lake enhanced snow showers as a little vort max goes by late this afternoon into this evening, transitioning to lake effect tonight. The lake-enhanced activity should spread inland a bit with a north of due west flow, though the lake effect tonight into Thursday morning should focus a bit farther north, from northeastern Cuyahoga into southern Lake and northern Geauga. It's not the craziest lake effect setup, but ratios will be fairly good and it should be persistent enough for 6-10" type accumulations where the band is most persistent...with lighter accumulations elsewhere from the lake enhanced flareup later today. 

The WNW flow setup Friday into Saturday should produce moderate to locally heavy multi-bands of fluffy snow across the primary and secondary snowbelts. Inland locales and higher terrain locations should do well. Again not the craziest setup, but it looks fairly prolonged and persistent with fluffy snow, and some embedded heavier rates within bands that have upstream connections. We will need more lake effect snow warnings for that period and secondary snowbelt counties are very much in play too. 

[NEOH]

Went out and measured… 2.1” on elevated surfaces and only an inch on the  ground. The ground is warm and wet from the recent rains.

[dta1984]

22 minutes ago, NEOH said:

Went out and measured… 2.1” on elevated surfaces and only an inch on the  ground. The ground is warm and wet from the recent rains.

Same, I have 2" measured off my deck.  Picturesque with the plastering on the trees.  Right on forecast so far, hoping the rest of the day into tomorrow keeps delivering.   Fri - Sat looks fun as well. 

[NEOH]

Hopefully round 2 of LES works out better tomorrow into the weekend. Didn't pick up much additional snow last night. 

[OHweather]

Yeah, I was worried the forecast was F’d when I peeked at the radar at about 8pm and the band was sitting over eastern Lake and the chimney of Geauga with nothing to push it back south. Parts of Ashtabula, Erie and Crawford got a good amount into this morning but it’s yet another poorly forecasted event for Cleveland proper. My event total was 1.9”, which for down here isn’t too out of line with the expectations. Should be a much better setup for the Cleveland metro and inland Snowbelt tomorrow into Saturday still. 

[dta1984]

1 hour ago, OHweather said:

Yeah, I was worried the forecast was F’d when I peeked at the radar at about 8pm and the band was sitting over eastern Lake and the chimney of Geauga with nothing to push it back south. Parts of Ashtabula, Erie and Crawford got a good amount into this morning but it’s yet another poorly forecasted event for Cleveland proper. My event total was 1.9”, which for down here isn’t too out of line with the expectations. Should be a much better setup for the Cleveland metro and inland Snowbelt tomorrow into Saturday still. 

Ya seemed like the bands wanted to hug the lake shore.  Hoping for a better next few days. 

What are your thoughts on the Mon storm?  Any chance we can get it this far north, as it seems some models were starting to edge it north last night.   Should still trigger some lake effect as it passes I would think.... pending the lake ice coverage..

[NEOH]

CLE's latest snowfall map thru Sunday...