OntarioChaser Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Absolute craziness.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 save worthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baum Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 yeah, the trailing system is DOA, it's all or nothing with this one before we head back into a boring cold/dry pattern Educated guess: big cutting storm establishes pattern change. Aftermath: northwest flow clipper train reestablishes itself. November redux. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Educated guess: big cutting storm establishes pattern change. Aftermath: northwest flow clipper train reestablishes itself. November redux. sounds awful but yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radtechwxman Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 if this trough goes neg tilt faster and if the trough is able to dig more I could see the track of this storm shifting a big more west in time on models. obviously we are having phasing issues this far out but models do agree on this storm being in beast mode with regards to pressure. right now euro seems to have better ensemble support which is a further west cutting storm. timing will be crucial on this if cold air can dig behind this fast enough to produce a bigger snow event further south than what is currently shown. this system should have one heck of a deformation band with how much it occludes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 If we're given fair notice that it's a rainer, I'll be ok. December 2003 was a true, evil grinch event. Biggest Grinch storm of modern times for Toronto was before either of us were born: Christmas 1979. 55mm (over 2") of rain over Christmas Eve and Christmas Day washed away all the snow just before Christmas. http://climate.weather.gc.ca/climateData/dailydata_e.html?timeframe=2&Prov&StationID=5097&mlyRange=1937-01-01%7C2012-12-01&Year=1979&cmdB1=Go&Month=12&Day=16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbertfly Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 12Z Euro looks to hold serve on a big boy...details up in the air 976 SLP in SW OH at 12Z 24DEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajdos Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 What a beast.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 12z euro going hard in the paint again pressure wise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 12Z Euro looks to hold serve on a big boy...details up in the air 976 SLP in SW OH at 12Z 24DEC Monster. Wouldn't be surprised if this run outdoes the 00z run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 HYPED for this event. LES looks immense. Nice. Also should bring a nice shot of show before that sets in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Unlike that last bomb everyone was excited with, this one has cold air and a lot of moisture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 HYPED for this event. LES looks immense. Nice. Also should bring a nice shot of show before that sets in. outside LES, snow looks to be a non-event unless you're talking about backwoods Cannucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 outside LES, snow looks to be a non-event unless you're talking about backwoods Cannucks See above. AWESOME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Unlike that last bomb everyone was excited with, this one has cold air and a lot of moisture. YBY looks warm on the euro so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 YBY looks warm on the euro so far You know my interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajdos Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Looks like it moves due N..slightly N.E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbertfly Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Monster. Wouldn't be surprised if this run outdoes the 00z run. yeah....she's not done strengthening either...who knows on the snow department....but def a bad ass storm verbatim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 You know my interests. i care about obscure isolated lake belts as much as i care about heavy snows in the cascades, fun to check out once in a while but ultimately boring these model runs although impressive just aren't advertising much in the way of interesting weather for places people actually live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Looks like it moves due N..slightly N.E Something this monstrous may have a good deal of wrap around snow. Maybe not Boxing Day 2009 in N IL snows, but could be something appreciable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Something this monstrous may have a good deal of wrap around snow. Maybe not Boxing Day 2009 in N IL snows, but could be something appreciable. Yeah, MI cashes in on some wraparound along with lake effect. It isn't a huge amount but it isn't nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelakeroy Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 This will be a good free firewood storm. Surfs up on the GLs!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 outside LES, snow looks to be a non-event unless you're talking about backwoods Cannucks You could be right but I think it's premature to say that. There's a recent example with the deep storm late last month which took until 48-72 hours out to resolve the snow production. Models/model runs had been indicating little/no snow until the phasing details were better resolved. Still plenty of time for a more favorable trend (or a worse one lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelakeroy Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 You know my interests. I am right there with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Discuss further here https://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/45157-christmas-grinch-storm-potential/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajdos Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 If this storms pans out it should flip the pattern for sure.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Round 2 getting going at 216. Looks like it may try to phase with the Christmas storm. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 On the plus side...the parallel GFS and then 12z Euro to an extent looked better but eventually gets sheared apart as it enters the central US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 i care about obscure isolated lake belts as much as i care about heavy snows in the cascades, fun to check out once in a while but ultimately boring these model runs although impressive just aren't advertising much in the way of interesting weather for places people actually live I can understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Educated guess: big cutting storm establishes pattern change. Aftermath: northwest flow clipper train reestablishes itself. November redux.I do have a feeling that big storm wise...Christmas one is the chance..but we certainly look to go into an active nw flow pattern with clippers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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