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Dec 9-10 storm threat


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Completely off-topic...but that's cool, I didn't know geologically their parent mountain range is the Whites.  I thought it was a completely seperate geological time frame.  I'll know to refer to them as the Mahoosucs now.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahoosuc_Range

 

I'm going to confuse these with Mt Moosilauke which is closest White peak to the VT border.

Sugarloaf up through Katahdin is not part of Mahoosuc range.

If anything SL should be more associated with the Bigelow Range.

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They need a name so we can just lump them together...you have the Dacks, Greens, Whites, and the western Maine mountains.  They need like a 5-6 letter moniker haha, though SR/SL does work as well.

Sometimes referred to as The High Peaks, but that's a pretty local term, and really only refers to the Saddleback-Sugarloaf-Bigelow region, so Sunday River is a bit further afield. SR is pretty close to the Whites and there's a wide (relatively) level area between Routes 17 and 4 before you start getting higher elevations in Maine. But, like Sugarloaf, it is an easterly-facing slope, so can get a lot of moisture off the Atlantic you won't see further west. 

Sunday River is, in fact, 50 miles from Sugarloaf (and good god, longer by road, i.e. you can't get there from here). But being on the eastern flank, SR can get very different weather than an Wildcat or Bretton Woods even though they are much closer than Sugarloaf (22 & 33 miles). And there are always downsloping and CAD questions in the Whites, I've seen times when HIE and even BML were sitting at 40 while stations in the low valleys south and east were stuck in the 20s.

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T was already taken, so they had no alternative but to leave it off.

I guess the northeastern Connecticut hills are vaguely referred to as this southern extension of the White Mountains that levels off from the Worcester hills down to the Eastern Connecticut hills but are not considered part of the Appalachians. I believe the Shenipsit Trail runs through that area as well just to the east of the Connecticut River Valley from East hampton up through Glastonbury where elevations touch near 1000 at Meshomasic state forest and then closer to 1100 near Soapstone Mountain in Somers but Kevin may be just a hair east of that I'm not sure.

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Sometimes referred to as The High Peaks, but that's a pretty local term, and really only refers to the Saddleback-Sugarloaf-Bigelow region, so Sunday River is a bit further afield. SR is pretty close to the Whites and there's a wide (relatively) level area between Routes 17 and 4 before you start getting higher elevations in Maine. But, like Sugarloaf, it is an easterly-facing slope, so can get a lot of moisture off the Atlantic you won't see further west. 

Sunday River is, in fact, 50 miles from Sugarloaf (and good god, longer by road, i.e. you can't get there from here). But being on the eastern flank, SR can get very different weather than an Wildcat or Bretton Woods even though they are much closer than Sugarloaf (22 & 33 miles). And there are always downsloping and CAD questions in the Whites, I've seen times when HIE and even BML were sitting at 40 while stations in the low valleys south and east were stuck in the 20s.

 

Yes.

 

That ride from SR to SL is brutal

 

Awesome ride.  Sometimes don't see another car for 20 or 30 minutes and oh' that view on a clear day when you come around that corner and see the high peaks.

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Freezing drizzle concern this evening/overnight? Pretty moist boundary layer with that flow off the ocean. Takes a while to warm abover 0c. 

 

Boundary layer is real dry at first, but I could see the issue later on perhaps. I thought it looked that way for awhile, and now the morning commute could be pretty slick in spots.

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Boundary layer is real dry at first, but I could see the issue later on perhaps. I thought it looked that way for awhile, and now the morning commute could be pretty slick in spots.

 

Looking at the forecast soundings and by after 5z or so it's a classic FZDZ look back this way. 

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Sometimes referred to as The High Peaks, but that's a pretty local term, and really only refers to the Saddleback-Sugarloaf-Bigelow region, so Sunday River is a bit further afield. SR is pretty close to the Whites and there's a wide (relatively) level area between Routes 17 and 4 before you start getting higher elevations in Maine. But, like Sugarloaf, it is an easterly-facing slope, so can get a lot of moisture off the Atlantic you won't see further west. 

Sunday River is, in fact, 50 miles from Sugarloaf (and good god, longer by road, i.e. you can't get there from here). But being on the eastern flank, SR can get very different weather than an Wildcat or Bretton Woods even though they are much closer than Sugarloaf (22 & 33 miles). And there are always downsloping and CAD questions in the Whites, I've seen times when HIE and even BML were sitting at 40 while stations in the low valleys south and east were stuck in the 20s.

There are indeed several mountain ranges with different names in Maine. Overall, to talk about all of them as a whole for western ME, we use "Longfellow Mountains". I think that is the collective name given.

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I was wondering about power outages, even 6" of heavy isothermal snow followed by IP/ZR to soak it up on the branches could spell trouble.  Especially pines that love to hold storm snow weight and rather break than shed the snow.

I'm sure its the same in Stowe, the trees are still carrying snow from last week.  Extra weight probably not needed in some areas.

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Nobody is really saying much about it on the media..lol. Just the typical rip and read GFS and RPM..which lately has been awful with temps. 

 

I didn't even see the NWS mention it. Just started looking through the model data after getting back from the Cape and was a bit surprised at how it looked. 

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Will, you think ORH is good for a brief 2-3hr pasting? 

 

 

Man, its close...like 12z to 15z tomorrow it could go either way. I think by midday it should be too warm in the mid-levels...but I'm pretty sure the sfc won't be above freezing at ORH by then.

 

I'd probably go an inch or two there right now. But I could see it busting into a quick 4-5" if things don't warm as fast as progged in the mid-levels.

 

One thing that makes me a bit nervous is that the warm layer is pretty low on the all the soundings...like 850-900mb. This makes it more likely to be influenced by CAD..so if models are underdoing that, then we could see the extra 3 hours of snow soundings which could really screw some forecasts up.

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