HoarfrostHubb Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Feb '69 was way further east...but it was a stalled storm that retrograded.Of course, placement of the low is way different, but did the Whites cash in on an endless backlash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Why would you care who jackpots?wheter it's Maine or the Poconos? You're all getting snow while most posters here rot under a rainstorm in mid December. I don't care about jackpots, I am talking about Northern Maine, This storm should allow a lot of these projects up here to open up trails, Northern Maine is an area that i frequent often in the winter and over towards the ski areas, To make a statement that who cares there a lot that ski on this board that frequent those resorts so many do care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share Posted December 7, 2014 Can't stress enough how anamolous this evolution is. Obvious model issues. Totally impressive block. I don't think there is much blocking at all...it just gets completely cut off from the main polar jet which is why it sits there and spins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I can't recall the last time I got precip from 3 different sfc lows from the same ULL. Bruce Scwoegler saw those weekly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I don't care about jackpots, I am talking about Northern Maine, This storm should allow a lot of these projects up here to open up trails, Northern Maine is an area that i frequent often in the winter and over towards the ski areas, To make a statement that who cares there a lot that ski on this board that frequent those resorts so many do careMy point was who cares who jackpots.. And instead of answering me he pulls that crap without answering the weather question. Seriously.. Do you guys up north care that much about getting more than the Poconos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Sorry for the imby question... How is it looking for Attitash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Here comes storm #4 from the ULL. Maybe it can meander there the rest of the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share Posted December 7, 2014 My point was who cares who jackpots.. And instead of answering me he pulls that crap without answering the weather question. Seriously.. Do you guys up north care that much about getting more than the Poconos? Stop spinning like usual. You said "you need to be in the Poconos to get 2-3 feet of snow, not the NNE mountains", and I responded that the mountains in Maine get hammered with that much this run...then you said "who cares" and spun into this jackpot fetish when I responded that many people care. I didn't even mention the word jackpot once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Scott or Brian or Geoff..Would that backlash be Wed or Thurs on the off chance it happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Scott or Brian or Geoff..Would that backlash be Wed or Thurs on the off chance it happened? Wed night into Thursday if it were to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 What a crushing from Milinocket north on that run I'm sure we could congratulate one or two people there from the NNE thread. MPM will be in full Debbie mode after his modest front end thump washes away and he is too far W for the backlash. I'll be in IA so I won't be bummed to miss rain. In fact, I hope there's enough of it to wash the meager front-end off the driveway for when I come home Thursday afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Looks good for a 12" front end thump up here. The eastern Adirondacks I think do best on that run overall. Just crushing NE flow. Dacks jackpot? Interesting..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Dacks jackpot? Interesting..... I don't think anyone disagreed with you on that possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Safe to say we still don't know what the final outcome will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I am a little confused about how all of this will progress. If we take the Euro, which has been fairly consistent, would this mean a front end dump up here and in GC and over towards Jeff, and then a dry slot, or a bunch of rain? And then when the next low develops would that be snow? And what would the airmass be like for storms 3 and 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Dacks jackpot? Interesting..... Well they do real well on a NE wind at H85...real well. That to them is like a SE flow to Sunday River. That's why Whiteface got 3 feet on Memorial Day a couple years ago...prolonged NE flow. It's not even SLK as much but those eastern high peaks would get absolutely slaughtered in that ECMWF solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I am a little confused about how all of this will progress. If we take the Euro, which has been fairly consistent, would this mean a front end dump up here and in GC and over towards Jeff, and then a dry slot, or a bunch of rain? And then when the next low develops would that be snow? And what would the airmass be like for storms 3 and 4Everything was so vague it ends up in mass confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I don't think anyone disagreed with you on that possibility. Perceived semantics, but all I said was most shouldn't be emotionally invested in a storm that looks to jackpot the dacks, and this is applicaple beyond the cp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I like what HPC snow maps were showing for Tuesday for the MPM Mahk Dendrite Dryslut corridor. 8+ moderate to high prob, 12+ moderate to low prob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Just seemed blocky to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Best of luck to the NWS offices in trying to forecast snow amounts, rain amounts, p-type, POPs, temps, etc all week long under this system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share Posted December 7, 2014 Just seemed blocky to me You got some high height anomalies on either side but no real block. The high height anomalies are sort of indicative of the torchy pattern across N.A.....this cutoff keeps us colder in a sea of warmth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRWEATHA Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Can one of the mets explain what a "trowal" is? From the met discussions here seems like this is going to be an interesting storm to follow no matter what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I am a little confused about how all of this will progress. If we take the Euro, which has been fairly consistent, would this mean a front end dump up here and in GC and over towards Jeff, and then a dry slot, or a bunch of rain? And then when the next low develops would that be snow? And what would the airmass be like for storms 3 and 4 Front end snows (some rain?) from the first system...then we dryslot and get some -SHRA/DZ. A new low reforms off the triple point further east and then that backs in somewhere over the region. Then the ULL meanders for almost a week along the east coast. Good luck figuring out how exactly this evolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Can one of the mets explain what a "trowal" is? From the met discussions here seems like this is going to be an interesting storm to follow no matter what happens. TROWAL is an acronym for "trough of warm air aloft" I've been lazy explaining things lately so I just let Haby Hints do it. Just scroll down to the TROWAL section. http://www.theweatherprediction.com/weatherpapers/023/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Front end snows (some rain?) from the first system...then we dryslot and get some -SHRA/DZ. A new low reforms off the triple point further east and then that backs in somewhere over the region. Then the ULL meanders for almost a week along the east coast. Good luck figuring out how exactly this evolves. We will have to see if HPC is as robust with their afternoon update, but 8-12 inches of cement with drizzle to follow would keep our pack. Looks like strong HP to our north 1044? on Tuesday. It is out east on Wednesday but I would think that would leave some cold behind for a bit longer than projected. Would be nice if some high pressure could build to our north as the ULL wanders around. Then it is mid month and we shall see if we actually get a warm up. I'm not convinced we get anything beyond a 2 or 3 day spike. Helluva way to run a normal to above boring first half of December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Starting to wonder if coastal issues aren't a bigger deal than I first thought, 1000 mile persistent fetch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Looks initially like this 18 Z NAM run hasn't started yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hailstoned Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Everything was so vague it ends up in mass confusion. You need a thorough tutorial in Dick, Jane, and Spot to introduce you to reading comprehension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 You need a thorough tutorial in Dick, Jane, and Spot to introduce you to reading comprehension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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