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Dec 9-10 storm threat


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You do realize everyone has been talking about CNE and NNE for wintery precip for like the past two days right?

 

I don't think anyone is trying to salvage anything...all the posts seem fairly reasonable for the areas that have been highlighted for greatest chance of wintery impact.

 

I'm not naming any names... 'sides, I said I was pokin' the hornet's nest.

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Yeah Tip....there is still a slight chance that much of interior SNE could do very well...if you want more dreaming eye candy in central MA...check this one out:

 

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Obviously these types of solutions are on the edge of the envelope...NNE/CNE elevated afreas are in the much more favorable spot.

 

 

SNE's best shot at accumulating snow appears to be the backlsh thta occurs from the H5 low deepening SE of SNE after the storm occludes. But I still wouldn't rule out some front end fun for the interior spots of SNE that goes on a bit longer than currently progged....those Quebec highs (even retreating) can sometimes be a bit under modeled. The trend has also been subtle in delaying the retreat a bit...holding firm just a shade longer.

 

 

 

The spread in model solutions is still high so the forecast confidence in this time frame is below average...high confidence of a storm...low confidence of any details pertaining to sensible wx.

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Tip following his usual track.. When all hope is lost and its meh , he posts things look great and how it's gonna bang. When things look highly anomolous and record breaking he downplays to meh

 

Kevin is following his usual track of demonstrating 3rd grade reading comprehension skills...

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Yeah Tip....there is still a slight chance that much of interior SNE could do very well...if you want more dreaming eye candy in central MA...check this one out:

 

f81.gif

 

 

 

 

f84.gif

 

 

 

 

 

Obviously these types of solutions are on the edge of the envelope...NNE/CNE elevated afreas are in the much more favorable spot.

 

 

SNE's best shot at accumulating snow appears to be the backlsh thta occurs from the H5 low deepening SE of SNE after the storm occludes. But I still wouldn't rule out some front end fun for the interior spots of SNE that goes on a bit longer than currently progged....those Quebec highs (even retreating) can sometimes be a bit under modeled. The trend has also but subtle in delaying the retreat a bit...holding firm just a shade longer.

 

 

 

The spread in model solutions is still high so the forecast confidence in this time frame is below average...high confidence of a storm...low confidence of any details pertaining to sensible wx.

 

Course, we still have the unfortunate issue of this being D4/5 ... Not you per se, but folks may be vesting too deeply into this thing as a right off ... or on...

 

I mean, I'm just teasing a little, and that should be obvious   (Steve!  WTF are you talking to?  come on man, lighten up).  

 

Anyway, obviously there are those that are guilty but back to the what matters.  I think there is plenty of time for this to evolve into a something different. Or not...

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Just spent awhile catching up and reading... Sounds like a classic interior elevation storm and right into the lower elevations of those far nw enough. Of course we could see a bump south and east with the low, but the scorch aloft really makes me really negative for sne outside of the berks. I need to find an excuse to go to VT lol. We probably end up with a front end thump in the end in the very least. I might end up taking a road trip.

A slow moving fronto dumpage with a stacked low = tasty and worth traveling for.

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I think Tip was kidding in his first paragaph.

 

Including a delicious Freudian slip (or was it intentional?) by typing "deviantly" rather than the more logical "defiantly".

 

Seriously, when the board catches the spoor of elephants, they pay attention.  Maybe the animals run away, maybe they charge, but at least it's interesting times.

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Including a delicious Freudian slip (or was it intentional?) by typing "deviantly" rather than the more logical "defiantly".

 

Seriously, when the board catches the spoor of elephants, they pay attention.  Maybe the animals run away, maybe they charge, but at least it's interesting times.

This is sig worthy....good work!

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Including a delicious Freudian slip (or was it intentional?) by typing "deviantly" rather than the more logical "defiantly".

Seriously, when the board catches the spoor of elephants, they pay attention. Maybe the animals run away, maybe they charge, but at least it's interesting times.

I think I just got smarter. Good stuff.

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We would kill for that solution.. But it's still correcting west

 

 

You wouldn;t kill for that...that would give you a lot of rain while not far NW gets plastured...we really want that thing about 1-2C colder.

 

It could correct colder if it kept that track...but we really need to be working with a better airmass...such as 24-36 hours fresher than it is...like some of the original depictions.

 

That said, can't rule out some accumulating backside snows if that strong ULL passes underneath us and just to the east.

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You wouldn;t kill for that...that would give you a lot of rain while not far NW gets plastured...we really want that thing about 1-2C colder.

It could correct colder if it kept that track...but we really need to be working with a better airmass...such as 24-36 hours fresher than it is...like some of the original depictions.

That said, can't rule out some accumulating backside snows if that strong ULL passes underneath us and just to the east.

Considering gfs thermal profiles are usually warm, this is a weenie solution ain't it?

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You wouldn;t kill for that...that would give you a lot of rain while not far NW gets plastured...we really want that thing about 1-2C colder.

It could correct colder if it kept that track...but we really need to be working with a better airmass...such as 24-36 hours fresher than it is...like some of the original depictions.

That said, can't rule out some accumulating backside snows if that strong ULL passes underneath us and just to the east.

Well I was assuming the Gfs was in its usual la la land of warm thermal profiles
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You wouldn;t kill for that...that would give you a lot of rain while not far NW gets plastured...we really want that thing about 1-2C colder.

It could correct colder if it kept that track...but we really need to be working with a better airmass...such as 24-36 hours fresher than it is...like some of the original depictions.

That said, can't rule out some accumulating backside snows if that strong ULL passes underneath us and just to the east.

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