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Will 3 days ago I had this 92 feel and mentioned in somewhat jest here but damn this euro run brings back memories. Being cognizant of a stall and capture this could rank up there guys if as depicted  

 

 

If this digs much further S and closes off in a good spot, then I'll think about the comparison...but that storm was just on a whole different level...so I'm reluctant to even compare until it's really looking similar.

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So what about for CNE and SNE where 96% of us live?

 

 

Worrying about details at D5...

 

 

It looks like it could end as a period of accumulating snow after rain for most of SNE. That's all we can say at this point. We've pointed out the ways it could trend snowier.

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If this digs much further S and closes off in a good spot, then I'll think about the comparison...but that storm was just on a whole different level...so I'm reluctant to even compare until it's really looking similar.

 

Yep, other than Cat I flooding, 6" of QPF, and 42" of snow...you may be able to make the comparison. :lol:

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If this digs much further S and closes off in a good spot, then I'll think about the comparison...but that storm was just on a whole different level...so I'm reluctant to even compare until it's really looking similar.

Of course but evolution wise not latitude wise, this has hallmarks on the Euro of a depiction of a classic

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of course Scott without new moon tides of 12 feet you wouldn't get the Cat 1 flooding but lets be big kids and think about the evolutionary meteorology as depicted by the Euro

 

I'd like to see a much more impressive downstream ridge buckling over the top of the upper low for a '92 comparison...this is an impressive depiction, don't get me wrong, but it has work to do in order to be on the same level of a storm as '92...even taking into account latitude difference. That downstream ridge just buckled and held the storm underneath it for like 36 hours...this one is a bit more progressive and the high slides further E.

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I think the European ensemble mean is a reflection of the members that continue to be well south and east, but in reality there is also a large cluster further west with low locations near Long Island and Connecticut as well so I'm not really excited un less I see more of a shift from the operational and the control version

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I think the European ensemble mean is a reflection of the members that continue to be well south and east, but in reality there is also a large cluster further west with low locations near Long Island and Connecticut as well so I'm not really excited un less I see more of a shift from the operational and the control version

Have you seen the individuals, or are you just speculating? There's a WxBell product which plots the locations of the individual lows(Among many other things with the indies), but I don't think that comes out until like 5 ish, although I know other sources have indies sooner.

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I'd like to see a much more impressive downstream ridge buckling over the top of the upper low for a '92 comparison...this is an impressive depiction, don't get me wrong, but it has work to do in order to be on the same level of a storm as '92...even taking into account latitude difference. That downstream ridge just buckled and held the storm underneath it for like 36 hours...this one is a bit more progressive and the high slides further E.

Certainly not as deep and faster I agree, Euro Ens would be a huge snowstorm to the coast. Just as a general sense not specifically but the airmass, capture and rapid height field crash is similar to some of the big storms. Saying 92 feel was never intended to say a duplicate rather a general similar evolution. Pretty rare bird s depicted.

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Have you seen the individuals, or are you just speculating? There's a WxBell product which plots the locations of the individual lows(Among many other things with the indies), but I don't think that comes out until like 5 ish, although I know other sources have indies sooner.[/quote

I was looking at the low locations on weatherbell .

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Have you seen the individuals, or are you just speculating? There's a WxBell product which plots the locations of the individual lows(Among many other things with the indies), but I don't think that comes out until like 5 ish, although I know other sources have indies sooner.[/quote

I was looking at the low locations on weatherbell .

Gotcha, didn't realize those are out so early, wasn't until like 5 last winter. 

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Jeffaffa I certainly am extremely envious of your position on this Euro depiction. Hopefully it stalls in just the right position for you to relive your avatar. 

 

At this juncture, I remain optimistic, But the drumbeats are getting louder, I could see this playing out a lot of ways, But in the end i will get something out of it

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I know what you mean. That storm basically ripped the heart out of me like the "Temple of Doom" but boy was it historic.

 

It was a nasty storm where I was on the shoreline. But... if I lived where I live now or got a repeat of 92 here in the CT River Valley I would probably be in a foul mood for an entire month. 

 

Either way I don't think this storm bears a ton of resemblance to 92. 

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Here's the thing on the Euro Ensembles... the biggest "clustering" of lows I see is over Long Island and Connecticut. Most members west of the mean with a handful waaaaaaay east. While the "mean" looks nice most of the members aren't even close to it.

Was this in the beginning? You could see a NW look on the mean as it was evolving. I can't see members though.
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Here's the thing on the Euro Ensembles... the biggest "clustering" of lows I see is over Long Island and Connecticut. Most members west of the mean with a handful waaaaaaay east. While the "mean" looks nice most of the members aren't even close to it. 

Well that pretty much settles it. it's a wire to wire rainer for anyone south of southern NH

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It was a nasty storm where I was on the shoreline. But... if I lived where I live now or got a repeat of 92 here in the CT River Valley I would probably be in a foul mood for an entire month. 

 

Either way I don't think this storm bears a ton of resemblance to 92. 

actually that low position looks like your favorite boxing day shredded flakes storm where you and Shabbots were in epic meltdowns.

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