POWERSTROKE Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/21/2010 at 1:33 PM, BIG FROSTY said: +1 Matt, I watched you this morning Frost Did you noticed the change in the local forecast to rain from the TV mets. On their websites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullCityWx Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I'm wondering if GSP is bullish because the stores will all be closed early on christmas eve and all day on christmas day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLI4SCwx Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/21/2010 at 1:19 PM, Shawn said: KCAE: I feel for them though. Even though they are leaving the discussion dark and not even mentioning the other models other than GFS, I think I understand where they're coming from this far South on Christmas, lol. I bet we'll have to wait up to 24 hours of the models showing something substantial for them to start biting! lol But, guess with our luck on winter wx events, they have a reason to hold off things until it's a LOCK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG FROSTY Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/21/2010 at 1:36 PM, POWERSTROKE said: Frost Did you noticed the change in the local forecast to rain from the TV mets. On their websites yes I did (Awful) How in the world can go with rain today's forexast when you had snow in it yesterday ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeronicaCorningstone Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Got a quick question for those of you that have Euro access - I saw during last night's disco where the QPF amounts were put up for some areas; does anyone have that info from the 0Z for RWI and PGV? I'm not altogether certain that it's even frozen precipitation that far to the eastern part of the state, and I know QPF is certainly not set in stone (especially this far out), but I am curious about it. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POWERSTROKE Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/21/2010 at 1:38 PM, BIG FROSTY said: yes I did (Pitful) How in the world can go with rain today's forexast when you had snow in it yesterday ? Especially from the one that I talked to yesterday in person. Must be the morning mets forecast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strongwxnc Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Sounds good man. I agree that 4.5 days out is a little much. But I guess they feel like they need to put this out. Or some jack screwed it up. On 12/21/2010 at 1:35 PM, Lookout said: That crossed my mind but holidays have never seem to make them more bullish before. I've always thought it was a good idea to be more bullish around the holidays because you don't want people caught off guard and risking their lives. But being 4 to 5 days out is really pushing it. And I can't think of a single time gsp or any other southeast office was being that bullish so far in advance. What has been pointed out by mets on a number of occassions over the years is that there is a BIG difference between us talking about this on a weather board and an actual nws being bullish..even in light of good model support. Their forecast goes out to everyone and will effect everyone from schools, cops, emergency personal, business, etc and many places actually spend money in preperation for a winter storm so if they get it wrong they will lose that money. That's a pretty big burden on the nws to be right about it. Now, if the winter storm is within a day or two and there is overwhelming model support (and common sense) supporting a major event, I don't understand why some choose to ignore the reality of the situation and not be bullish (like FFC). But being 4 or 5 days away is different, That is a really long time for a lot to change. The inner weenie in me is thrilled to see them be that bullish, don't get me wrong, but it does surprise the rational side of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/21/2010 at 1:37 PM, DLI4SCwx said: I bet we'll have to wait up to 24 hours of the models showing something substantial for them to start biting! lol But, guess with our luck on winter wx events, they have a reason to hold off things until it's a LOCK. I didn't understand why they even said snow/freezing rain was going to happen here last storm. They jumped the gun bad on that one causing the local mets to do the same. Down here, a white Christmas is considered a myth. I think they're gonna hold off really mentioning much from fear of destroying little kids hearts and busting, cause hysteria to stock up at the grocery store, and messing other's plans up. Then on the flip side of that other than the kids, the same points are going to be used against them if they don't forecast it soon enough. Thankfully, it's only Tuesday for our local office and I am SURE they are already or going to collaborate with KGSP since they have way more experience with anything like this. I've noticed they have just left the extended forecast discussion unchanged since yesterday now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanc2001 Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/21/2010 at 1:30 PM, burgertime said: I think CAE would have a chance but for you the only shot would be some back end snow if the Euro verified verbatim. wasnt expecting much on the coast, ill be at my folks in CAE for xmas though, so hoping for some there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG FROSTY Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/21/2010 at 1:40 PM, POWERSTROKE said: Especially from the one that I talked to yesterday in person. Must be the morning mets forecast Yea I don't understand it ? But they will have come Friday morning. I hope we will too ! It's not a done deal, models can turn around on a dime.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WXinCanton Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/21/2010 at 1:35 PM, Queencitywx said: Dont forget, there's still roughly 6-10 more MM left to fall that isnt depicted because the map stops at 120. Does the snow extend further west in the earlier images of that map? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG FROSTY Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/21/2010 at 1:40 PM, strongwxnc said: Sounds good man. I agree that 4.5 days out is a little much. But I guess they feel like they need to put this out. Or some jack screwed it up. That very well may be the case. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLO Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Ben Tanner from WIS in Cola. will never call for snow again unless it is falling after what happened to him 2 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/21/2010 at 1:44 PM, FLO said: Ben Tanner from WIS in Cola. will never call for snow again unless it is falling after what happened to him 2 years ago. Ben reads the forecast discussion it seems. Also the new met seems to be doing the same. I miss Brooks sometimes. I really do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/21/2010 at 1:36 PM, Queencitywx said: I'm wondering if GSP is bullish because the stores will all be closed early on christmas eve and all day on christmas day? I personally think they are bullish because of so much agreement....I mean when was the last storm that had all these models behind it consistently for a couple of days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bingcrosbyb Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/21/2010 at 1:36 PM, Queencitywx said: I'm wondering if GSP is bullish because the stores will all be closed early on christmas eve and all day on christmas day? Interesting. I don't think there has been much thought into impacts due to Christmas. Perhaps GSP is trying to get out front of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POWERSTROKE Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/21/2010 at 1:43 PM, BIG FROSTY said: Yea I don't understand it ? But they will have come Friday morning. I hope we will too ! It's not a done deal, models can turn around on a dime.. I know I remember the storm back in the late 80's or early 90's , school closed forecast was a foot and didn't get a flake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Czar Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I just watched his video. He said he believes it will be more of a compromise between the euro and gfs. So that's the cmc right? Sounds good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/21/2010 at 1:49 PM, Weather Czar said: I just watched his video. He said he believes it will be more of a compromise between the euro and gfs. So that's the cmc right? Sounds good to me. Who JB? Those are two FAR different solutions. It should be more like the GGEM/Euro compromise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanc2001 Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/21/2010 at 1:45 PM, Shawn said: Ben reads the forecast discussion it seems. Also the new met seems to be doing the same. I miss Brooks sometimes. I really do. WIS is fail since Gandy left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/21/2010 at 1:50 PM, kanc2001 said: WIS is fail since Gandy left I wonder if they run the news at Midday on Friday (Christmas Eve) and everything is looking like a lock for us if Joe Pinner is going to be on there. Man, that guy is OBSESSED with snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG FROSTY Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/21/2010 at 1:49 PM, Weather Czar said: I just watched his video. He said he believes it will be more of a compromise between the euro and gfs. So that's the cmc right? Sounds good to me. That's right, But why don't he even mention the se snow possibilty ? He just draws that circle up north of us in the OV for snow ? I hope the son-of-a-gun is wrong. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NegativeTilt Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/21/2010 at 1:49 PM, POWERSTROKE said: I know I remember the storm back in the late 80's or early 90's , school closed forecast was a foot and didn't get a flake I remember that!! They let us out 3 hrs early and we got zilch!! The low went due east and never gained much latitude. Man I was a pissed off 7th grader then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLO Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/21/2010 at 1:50 PM, kanc2001 said: WIS is fail since Gandy left Gandy was WLTX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POWERSTROKE Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/21/2010 at 1:52 PM, NegativeTilt said: I remember that!! They let us out 3 hrs early and we got zilch!! The low went due east and never gained much latitude. Man I was a pissed off 7th grader then. yep me too. Where you located? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLO Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/21/2010 at 1:52 PM, Shawn said: I wonder if they run the news at Midday on Friday (Christmas Eve) and everything is looking like a lock for us if Joe Pinner is going to be on there. Man, that guy is OBSESSED with snow. Are the models showing snow for us? I am on my phone. Can't read maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Czar Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/21/2010 at 1:52 PM, BIG FROSTY said: That's right, But why don't he even mention the se snow possibilty ? He just draws that circle up north of us in the OV for snow ? I hope the son-of-a-gun is wrong. lol because it does not snow away from I-95 south of VA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiaWx Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 So can anyone confirm that the Euro shows about 3-4 inches of snow for the Atlanta area from this storm? I know we should not get too wrapped up in amounts at this point but this has me really excited for the first time this season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/21/2010 at 1:53 PM, FLO said: Gandy was WLTX I think so much off-topic stuff is gonna get cracked down on here soon by Lookout's wrath BTW!! Also, he started at WISTV and moved to WLTX back in the day. Also, yes to an extent they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Czar Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 On 12/21/2010 at 1:50 PM, Shawn said: Who JB? Those are two FAR different solutions. It should be more like the GGEM/Euro compromise. Yes JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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