Guest Pamela Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I think he was hittin that. I think they later married... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I think they later married... Cpt Janks phony phone call was still the all time best during the OJ chase Prompted Al Michaels to jump in mid way and alert the host. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Cpt Janks phony phone call was still the all time best during the OJ chase Prompted Al Michaels to jump in mid way and alert the host. Its too bad the defendant caught another charge which precludes his search for the real killer.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Reminiscent of the poster "Jebman"...who, ultimately driven to frustration with regards to the lack of snow in northern Virginia...would often post about how he had "given up hope" in actually seeing any live snow at his house...but would rather enjoy a snowstorm vicariously by logging on to Caribou, Maine webcams during snowstorms all winter long. I'll be in Texas in two and a half weeks. I'm sure the winter will turn promptly on my departure, as it did in 04-05 and 05-06. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mophstymeo Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I'll be in Texas in two and a half weeks. I'm sure the winter will turn promptly on my departure, as it did in 04-05 and 05-06. Actually, I feel partly to blame for this stinky pattern. I got a new winter coat. Last time I got a new one was in 2011-2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I'll be in Texas in two and a half weeks. I'm sure the winter will turn promptly on my departure, as it did in 04-05 and 05-06. Moving there permanently? If so, good luck on the relocation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green tube Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 great video. aside from the occasional dud, the 21st century has been fantastic for snow lovers in our area. pay back is a b**ch, but what can ya do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Humidity Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 great video. aside from the occasional dud, the 21st century has been fantastic for snow lovers in our area. pay back is a b**ch, but what can ya do.Still got a whole lot of winter to go and yes, this has been a great century thus far snow wise and the most prolific 14 years since record keeping began.Edit 2nd most prolific. The period between 1872 and 1886 produced 34.9" where as the current snowy era between 2000 and 2014 produced 33.4" That being said if central park can average 30.1" over this and next winter, that would beat the previous 14 year period by .1"; not that anyone really keeps 14 yr running averages but it's fun and shows how, in this present climate of uber UHI, this century has true been remarkable snowfall wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbanknjandbigbasslakepa Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 This is why I believe for immediate nyc area, nj, those saying the SE ridge would be your friend, etc forgot their local climatology. The se ridge is killing us and is rarely ever a good thing for the city, coast and immediate burbs. You want the cold suppressed look and then start from there. You'll almost always find the moisture for it to snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCSNOWMAN2020 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I'm an old timer 43 years old, don't know how many winters I have seen where all seem lost ...then poof. .storms ..appear..cold air need not be artic..in my opinion may not get blizzard in Jan but will get our first taste of snow some point this month ..last few years have really spoiled many ..despite LT forecast that all but promised lots of snow ..we are not owed snow lol ...patience is key ..in .my eyes Feb is going to be the jackpot month. .if I crash and burn with that statement so be it; this is the banter thread right ..with that said regardless of what models show I will not give up on winter until March 20...after that point yes. It can snow but for coast.. City..etc. Mostly garbage snow ..time will tell people .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 one thing that's the opposite of last year--last year when the warmth came, you could see the cold rebuilding, this year, you see the warmth getting ready to come back as soon as the cold arrives. (what limited cold we've had) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I'm an old timer 43 years old, don't know how many winters I have seen where all seem lost ...then poof. .storms ..appear..cold air need not be artic..in my opinion may not get blizzard in Jan but will get our first taste of snow some point this month ..last few years have really spoiled many ..despite LT forecast that all but promised lots of snow ..we are not owed snow lol ...patience is key ..in .my eyes Feb is going to be the jackpot month. .if I crash and burn with that statement so be it; this is the banter thread right ..with that said regardless of what models show I will not give up on winter until March 20...after that point yes. It can snow but for coast.. City..etc. Mostly garbage snow ..time will tell people .. I'm the same age. Seen alot of great winters and alot of garbage winters and a few run of the mill average winters. This one IMO is going to the garbage bin....great pattern's always a few weeks away, nothing goes as thought (no -AO or NAO this year, SE ridge from hell etc etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 That's the last time I trust long range forecasts. Good god have they been awful almost verifying the total opposite of what they showed starting with last years hurricane season to last winter, this November, and now this winter. I'll buy any summer forecast because those are pretty easy to forecast and no one will notice the inaccuracy because it's usually insignificant but nothing beyond that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 This pattern is atrocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsteff Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 That's the last time I trust long range forecasts. Good god have they been awful almost verifying the total opposite of what they showed starting with last years hurricane season to last winter, this November, and now this winter. I'll buy any summer forecast because those are pretty easy to forecast and no one will notice the inaccuracy because it's usually insignificant but nothing beyond that. Totally agree, the science just isn't there yet. Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob1 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 That's the last time I trust long range forecasts. Good god have they been awful almost verifying the total opposite of what they showed starting with last years hurricane season to last winter, this November, and now this winter. I'll buy any summer forecast because those are pretty easy to forecast and no one will notice the inaccuracy because it's usually insignificant but nothing beyond that. Long range forecasting is never an exact science and shouldn't be taken as such. The correlation of various indices are rarely (if ever) 100%, and should be taken as general guidance of the most likely evolving pattern, nothing else. Putting too much stock in long range forecasts isn't good for your heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Anyone claiming victory after our January thaw by stating it will get colder is a genius. Its obviously not going to get warm after a warm up since it will have already been warm and can only get hot or cold and since it will be late january chances are about 99% it will get cold again after the thaw before getting hot. Just saying. Way to go Nostradamus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Anyone claiming victory after our January thaw by stating it will get colder is a genius. Its obviously not going to get warm after a warm up since it will have already been warm and can only get hot or cold and since it will be late january chances are about 99% it will get cold again after the thaw before getting hot. Just saying. Way to go Nostradamus. lol. easiest way to make a long range forecast is the following, its winter, it will be cold at times with snow possible, the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Last year on Dec 20 th Judah Cohen said winter was over and this year his belief that the AO and winter would lock in from Dec 20 - Feb 20 can only be met with the hope somehow he turns out right . Buying into LR seasonal forecasts must be done at your own risk . This resume speaks for itself . JC is a Reasearch Affiliate at MIT's Parsons Lab which is part of the Civil and Environmental engineering department. Director of Seasonal Forecasting at AER. currently working on the impacts of soil moisture and snow cover on other climate parameters. also interested in decadal temperature trends and explaining those trends with large scale climate modes. received a Ph.D. from Columbia University and was also a post-doc at Goddard Institute for Space Studies. Papers . http://web.mit.edu/jlcohen/www/papers.html Sometimes the smartest guys in the room miss . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCSNOWMAN2020 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Soo .gfs I hear brings lots of rain for weekend. ..again. .dreaded cycle. .wash. .rinse repeat. Ugh ..happy new year ...but I still say watch out Feb ..snow will be here ( I hope). . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 wow just checked allentowns numbers and they are plus 5 for December. talk about torching lol . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 31, 2014 Author Share Posted December 31, 2014 Some winters we see areas to our south, north or west getting snow. Right now you could travel hundreds of miles in any direction and see nothing. Basically have to go to Arizona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 wow just checked allentowns numbers and they are plus 5 for December. talk about torching lol . Torch city! +5 up here as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Some winters we see areas to our south, north or west getting snow. Right now you could travel hundreds of miles in any direction and see nothing. Basically have to go to Arizona This map says it all. Bare ground in parts of MI, VT, ME and most of NY state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I think the early PV breakup in november helped screw us... It reorganized at a bad time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I guess the one thing that we can say was that this really didn't come close to the winter 89-90 historic surprise. It's one thing for seasonal forecasts to come out cold in early November and we see that it's not working out as soon as December starts like this year. But to get 4.7 inches of snow on Thanksgiving and have the temperature departures in NYC go -10.3 in December followed by +9.6 in January is another story. I was already thinking how we were on track for another late 70's historic cold winter by Christmas 1989. I just couldn't believe it when January turned into a sea of warm. This board would have gone bonkers if it was around back then. you got that right. I remember being shocked by the end of Jan and then even Feb and March were inferno's. Crazy event that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 -EPO alone not enough to help us this year. We got nothing other than that....if that breaks down, the torch is on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I guess the one thing that we can say was that this really didn't come close to the winter 89-90 historic surprise. It's one thing for seasonal forecasts to come out cold in early November and we see that it's not working out as soon as December starts like this year. But to get 4.7 inches of snow on Thanksgiving and have the temperature departures in NYC go -10.3 in December followed by +9.6 in January is another story. I was already thinking how we were on track for another late 70's historic cold winter by Christmas 1989. I just couldn't believe it when January turned into a sea of warm. This board would have gone bonkers if it was around back then. accuwx said there was big changes coming in January 1990...They were right that time...we did tie a record low in late February 1990 but March saw 85 degrees in mid March after a snowfall and near record lows early in the month...All that cold in December was waisted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 -EPO alone not enough to help us this year. We got nothing other than that....if that breaks down, the torch is on. The - EPO was not our only factor last winter . In Jan we had +.97 PNA with a - .96 AO . You don`t have that look here . Either that PAC jet has to slow down or we need some high latitude blocking .ASAP. Just posted that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 The - EPO was not our only factor last winter . In Jan we had +.97 PNA with a - .96 AO . You don`t have that look here . Either that PAC jet has to slow down or we need some high latitude blocking .ASAP. Just posted that Agree...problem is the +NAO has locked in this year-going to be hard to change IMO. AO is the wildcard here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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