BxEngine Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 The Pac jet firehouse is going to destroy the epo ridge after a few days. Trust me its a temporary feature. The pac jet means business. If one can get the disturbances to undercut the ridge rather than try and plow thru it we may be in business. I dont see that on about half of guidance. Im unfortunately being the pessimist regarding this because we have been down this road before in years past. Once that pac jet is roaring its tough stopping it. Last year the pac worked out for us. Will it turn in our favor? I really hope so but i am just being pessimistically cautious about this feature and its tenure. Def gonna trust someone who thinks a building containing firetrucks is going to change the weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doorman Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Def gonna trust someone who thinks a building containing firetrucks is going to change the weather. Too dang funny bet ole Ralph has the vinyl of this track they changed the face of metal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 I have a ton of vinyl but unfortunately dont have this one. Never was a huge Kiss fan. Gimme Rush, The Who, Floyd, or Zeppelin lp guesses and chances are I have it :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Its gonna turn out to be a mild week ending Sunday with temps 10-15 degrees above normal during that stretch. Looks like another December that fails to fall below 20 degrees in NYC. I can remember all the December lows in the single digits from the 70's into the 80's. That -1 for NYC on Christmas 1980 really stands out in my memory. It makes me feel like I grew up during the little ice age compared to the balmy Decembers over the last 20 years. http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/NARR/1980/us1225.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Who do we trust Doug (Dsnowx) or Wiggum??? Hmmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Looks like another December that fails to fall below 20 degrees in NYC. I can remember all the December lows in the single digits from the 70's into the 80's. That -1 for NYC on Christmas 1980 really stands out in my memory. It makes me feel like I grew up during the little ice age compared to the balmy Decembers over the last 20 years. http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/NARR/1980/us1225.php ...and yet all those Decembers in the 1970's and 1980's failed to produce much more snow combined than Boxing Day did standing alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Too dang funny bet ole Ralph has the vinyl of this track they changed the face of metal Shirley Manson would have loved NYC this December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 ...and yet all those Decembers in the 1970's and 1980's failed to produce much more snow combined than Boxing Day did standing alone. Central Park saw a total of 37.9 inches of snow in the 20 Decembers from 1970 - 1989 / less than 2 inches each December on average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WintersGrasp Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 How has the parallel verified compared to the "old school" GFS so far? Just in the last few days, I've noticed (though I definitely could be wrong) that the parallel has shifted to solutions more like the standard GFS as it gets closer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 ...and yet all those Decembers in the 1970's and 1980's failed to produce much more snow combined than Boxing Day did standing alone. That's right. I didn't see my first really memorable December snowstorm until 12-30-00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 That's right. I didn't see my first really memorable December snowstorm until 12-30-00. Long Island only saw two halfway decent ones during the 1970's & 1980's...a 4 to 7 inch event on 12/12/1982 (typical Hatteras to Cape Cod track) & 12/13/1988...which was confined to west central Suffolk County...and put down around a foot from about Patchogue to Port Jefferson. The best snowstorm of the 1990's in December was on 12/19/1995...with up to a foot in spots...but far more widespread than the Norlun event in 1988. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 The 12/13/1988 was the classic norlun trough episode where while there was heavy snow in western Suffolk County, there was rain and thunder over the Hamptons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 What storm in December in the early to mid 90s dropped 7-9" across NYC and LI when the forecast called for sprinkles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Long Island only saw two halfway decent ones during the 1970's & 1980's...a 4 to 7 inch event on 12/12/1982 (typical Hatteras to Cape Cod track) & 12/13/1988...which was confined to west central Suffolk County...and put down around a foot from about Patchogue to Port Jefferson. The best snowstorm of the 1990's in December was on 12/19/1995...with up to a foot in spots...but far more widespread than the Norlun event in 1988. On 12/27/1984 Westbury in Nassau County picked up a quick 6.8"...another fairly local event...east of the Sagitikos Parkway...very little snow fell. Moreover, it was almost 70 F the next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 What storm in December in the early to mid 90s dropped 7-9" across NYC and LI when the forecast called for sprinkles? Probably December 27 -28, 1990 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Probably December 27 -28, 1990 Note that I did not forget that one when I listed snow events...I specifically said "best snow event of the 1990's" when I cited 12/19/1995. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 The 12/13/1988 was the classic norlun trough episode where while there was heavy snow in western Suffolk County, there was rain and thunder over the Hamptons. I'll never forget that one, that one scarred my soul. I could only imagine what this board would look like if the '80's walked through the door. Yikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 That decade would have devastated some on this board. Imagine year after year of above normal temps and below normal snow by the time we got to 93 all we could point to was Feb 83 and 77 78 as the good Ole days. Kids today are spoiled. You guys are crying over December imagine living through a frigging decade of this and not just 30 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Long Island only saw two halfway decent ones during the 1970's & 1980's...a 4 to 7 inch event on 12/12/1982 (typical Hatteras to Cape Cod track) & 12/13/1988...which was confined to west central Suffolk County...and put down around a foot from about Patchogue to Port Jefferson. The best snowstorm of the 1990's in December was on 12/19/1995...with up to a foot in spots...but far more widespread than the Norlun event in 1988. The 88 Norlun surprise stands out only since I couldn't believe the reports on the evening news after coming home from work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 26, 2014 Author Share Posted December 26, 2014 What storm in December in the early to mid 90s dropped 7-9" across NYC and LI when the forecast called for sprinkles? I remember a surprise event in early January of 1997. I just recall an area of snow developing offshore and rotating over the city on west. Got a nice 3-4" out of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 That decade would have devastated some on this board. Imagine year after year of above normal temps and below normal snow by the time we got to 93 all we could point to was Feb 83 and 77 78 as the good Ole days. Kids today are spoiled. You guys are crying over December imagine living through a frigging decade of this and not just 30 days. The only snowstorms that really mattered to me between PD1 in 1979 and the 90's were 4-6-82, 2-11-83, and 1-23-87. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 The 88 Norlun surprise stands out only since I couldn't believe the reports on the evening news after coming home from work. There was a good scholarly article on it in an AMS monthly issue...the Kocin book provided a similar analysis of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 26, 2014 Author Share Posted December 26, 2014 Probably December 27 -28, 1990 Nope 3-6" was forecast for almost eveybody. Temps were in the mid 20s when snow started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 The 88 Norlun surprise stands out only since I couldn't believe the reports on the evening news after coming home from work. Most of the snow fell between central Nassau and just east of Upton; with the heaviest halfway between those spots...to the east there was rain...to the west...little measurable snowfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Nope 3-6" was forecast for almost eveybody. Temps were in the mid 20s when snow started Probably have to say I do not know then...as I cannot think of any other 7 to 9 inch snow event for Central Park in December in the early to mid 1990's than the ones I mentioned (12/27/1990 and 12/19/1995). There were a couple of small snow events in December 1993...I don't think the city got 7 to 9 inches though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 26, 2014 Author Share Posted December 26, 2014 Probably have to say I do not know then...as I cannot think of any other 7 to 9 inch snow event for Central Park in the early to mid 1990's than the ones I mentioned (12/27/1990 and 12/19/1995). There were a couple of small snow events in December 1993...I don't think the city got 7 to 9 inches though.. Me either. Feb 91 and March 90 had 'surprise' events Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Thanksgiving 1989 was a good one too http://www.nytimes.com/1989/11/24/nyregion/a-white-thanksgiving-sets-a-record.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 There was a good scholarly article on it in an AMS monthly issue...the Kocin book provided a similar analysis of it. Yes, that was a great write-up starting on page 15. http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/1520-0434%281995%29010%3C0005%3AWWFTTE%3E2.0.CO%3B2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Me either. Feb 91 and March 90 had 'surprise' events February 1990 produced a huge snowstorm out over eastern Long Island...locally pushing 18 inches...very localized though...thanks to another Norlun Trough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 February 1990 produced a huge snowstorm out over eastern Long Island...locally pushing 18 inches...very localized though...thanks to another Norlun Trough. & February 1999 saw a huge snow from an offshore cyclone for the East End...14 inches at Montauk...2 feet over the Cape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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