Cold Rain Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I always say the weeklies are crap, so I'm not changing my tune now. That being said, I would have much rather they showed cold/wet... They've been showing cold and wet. Maybe they're wrong now and we actually will get cold and wet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 at what point do the optimists give in to the mounting evidence of a non-producing pattern? Weeklies, ensembles and most of the recent OP's all point to problems getting snow in the SE. I just don't see how people can keep trying to spin this into anything positive. It's like it would be hard for there to be any more negative indicators than we already have. I don't know. I'm not a pattern-chaser, so I'm kind of meh about it. Even in a sub-optimal pattern, we can get enough stuff to align for a storm or two, I think. James, ATL got 2 major ZR's in 2005. That made many there quite content. Also, Feb. of 2007 had two moderate snows adding to 2"+ on the northside. Not bad at all for a period lacking a major SN/IP. Ah, interesting. Sounds like 2007 was a better winter down there than up here, then. I'm assuming this was one of the February events (judging by the higher amounts in SW NC)? http://www4.ncsu.edu/~nwsfo/storage/cases/20070201/ 2007 was one of the worst winters in recent memory here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiaWx Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 More importantly, from my point of view, when do people stop trying to control what other people think? Especially since, opinion has absolutely zero impact on the weather. For that matter, neither do computer models. Isn't that part of a discussion forum trying to get someone else see it your way? I get that the chances of swaying opinion are near zero but that's what it's all about right? If we all had the same view and it was one big group think this place would really suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I don't know. I'm not a pattern-chaser, so I'm kind of meh about it. Even in a sub-optimal pattern, we can get enough stuff to align for a storm or two, I think. Ah, interesting. Sounds like 2007 was a better winter down there than up here, then. 2007 was one of the worst winters in recent memory here. Correction: I meant Jan. of 2008, not Feb. of 2007 for the two ATL snows. Sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 at what point do the optimists give in to the mounting evidence of a non-producing pattern? Weeklies, ensembles and most of the recent OP's all point to problems getting snow in the SE. I just don't see how people can keep trying to spin this into anything positive. It's like it would be hard for there to be any more negative indicators than we already have. Meh, heard the same thing last year...then Jan. came around and changed all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiaWx Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Meh, heard the same thing last year...then Jan. came around and changed all that. God I hope I'm wrong but it just isn't there right now. It could be in a few weeks but not right now..... JMO. I'm punting to 1/10 - 1/15 at this point, can't see things coming together for N. GA before then. You guys up in NC maybe can get something going before then idk.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 God I hope I'm wrong but it just isn't there right now. It could be in a few weeks but not right now..... JMO. I'm punting to 1/10 - 1/15 at this point, can't see things coming together for N. GA before then. You guys up in NC maybe can get something going before then idk.... Reading through the Jan 2013 thread is pretty hilarious. It got started on the 20th of December when models looked interesting for Jan 1.....then everyone wanted to punt due to waffling models and a warm December. By Jan 10th models were showing a huge arctic outbreak and the rest was history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevo Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 God I hope I'm wrong but it just isn't there right now. It could be in a few weeks but not right now..... JMO. I'm punting to 1/10 - 1/15 at this point, can't see things coming together for N. GA before then. You guys up in NC maybe can get something going before then idk.... You actually shed some light as to why the SE forum as a whole seems so disconnected. We all have very different weather from one another. I've been sitting pretty so far with a chilly winter. Wouldn't know any better if I didn't look at models or read internet forums. I would be frustrated if I lived in GA. Or eastern NC. Or Florida. Anywhere else really... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 This is what was posted Jan 9th. I continue to see no indications from any indices or modeling of a pattern change to something more wintry or different than what we've seen all winter, are on the way. If we're hoping for seasonal conditions with highs in the upper 40s and low 50s, then sure I'm on board. But frozen precipitation and highs in the 30s? I don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiaWx Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 You actually shed some light as to why the SE forum as a whole seems so disconnected. We all have very different weather from one another. I've been sitting pretty so far with a chilly winter. Wouldn't know any better if I didn't look at models or read internet forums. I would be frustrated if I lived in GA. Or eastern NC. Or Florida. Anywhere else really... Exactly the regional disconnect can contribute to frustration at times. That said it's actually been chilly here recently. I would much prefer 60's and sunshine in a no snow pattern to this 40's-50's and overcast/foggy/drizzle/rain crap we have had for what seems like two weeks now. It feels wintery but knowing that snow isn't coming is pretty disturbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiaWx Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 This is what was posted Jan 9th. Hopefully this season can play out like last... I'll take a repeat save for the 6 hours stuck on 285 and the 6 mile walk I had to deal with last Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strongwxnc Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 You actually shed some light as to why the SE forum as a whole seems so disconnected. We all have very different weather from one another. I've been sitting pretty so far with a chilly winter. Wouldn't know any better if I didn't look at models or read internet forums. I would be frustrated if I lived in GA. Or eastern NC. Or Florida. Anywhere else really... Great post sir! I am in the foothills of NC and no where near being frustrated with winter. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowless in Carrollton Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Exactly the regional disconnect can contribute to frustration at times. That said it's actually been chilly here recently. I would much prefer 60's and sunshine in a no snow pattern to this 40's-50's and overcast/foggy/drizzle/rain crap we have had for what seems like two weeks now. It feels wintery but knowing that snow isn't coming is pretty disturbing. I don't know about there but its been very warm here at night. Average low is 31, but I can't remember the last time it was that cold. We seem to not have any trouble having lows 10-15 above normal but God forbid we have lows 10-15 below normal ( which would be in the 15-20 degree range ). Really the only reason its been cool in the afternoon is because of clouds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG FROSTY Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 JB says the euro has him rattled! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkync Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 JB says the euro has him rattled! lol bless his heart !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG FROSTY Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Can we cancel winter yet? Or do we wait Till January 30th???? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbjr Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 JB says the euro has him rattled! lol DT is selling t-shirts in the middle of winter ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG FROSTY Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 JB says the euro has him rattled! lol He is having a rough spell. Here's another one where he stuck his neck out and the guillotine is falling. I believe he predicted over 50% coverage for Christmas day. 26.3% of the U.S. covered by snow. This is the lowest snow coverage for this day since Dec 22, 2004 when 18.5% of the U.S. had snow cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POWERSTROKE Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 He is having a rough spell. Here's another one where he stuck his neck out and the guillotine is falling. I believe he predicted over 50% coverage for Christmas day. 26.3% of the U.S. covered by snow. This is the lowest snow coverage for this day since Dec 22, 2004 when 18.5% of the U.S. had snow cover. He is not the only one that will bust. Robert, Don, DT, Allan etc.... Anybody need Rock Salt lol I've got plenty. Maybe we can have an ice cream party!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG FROSTY Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 He is having a rough spell. Here's another one where he stuck his neck out and the guillotine is falling. I believe he predicted over 50% coverage for Christmas day. 26.3% of the U.S. covered by snow. This is the lowest snow coverage for this day since Dec 22, 2004 when 18.5% of the U.S. had snow cover. Yup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 He is not the only one that will bust. Robert, Don, DT, Allan etc.... Anybody need Rock Salt lol I've got plenty. Maybe we can have an ice cream party!!! Hahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I don't know about there but its been very warm here at night. Average low is 31, but I can't remember the last time it was that cold. We seem to not have any trouble having lows 10-15 above normal but God forbid we have lows 10-15 below normal ( which would be in the 15-20 degree range ). Really the only reason its been cool in the afternoon is because of clouds. I believe I read today ATL has only had 2 lows of 32 or lower this month...if they do not get another one they will break the record from December of 84 I believe which only had 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jshetley Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I think many early forecasts for 2011-2012 were for cold and snow. We all know how that turned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 He is not the only one that will bust. Robert, Don, DT, Allan etc.... Anybody need Rock Salt lol I've got plenty. Maybe we can have an ice cream party!!! Natural gas speculators just jumped off the cliff. The backdrop for the move is Thursday's natural gas inventory report, which showed a year-over-year supply surplus for the first time since December 2012. However, it was not until this news was compounded by a mild seven-day forecast for the Northeast that nat gas futures really started to plunge........ ......On Monday, then, the many traders who had been hoping for another superspike, "are panicking out of the trade" said Bill Baruch, senior market strategist at Chicago-based iiTrader. "This is panic selling right here." http://www.cnbc.com/id/102289402 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Natural gas speculators just jumped off the cliff. The backdrop for the move is Thursday's natural gas inventory report, which showed a year-over-year supply surplus for the first time since December 2012. However, it was not until this news was compounded by a mild seven-day forecast for the Northeast that nat gas futures really started to plunge........ ......On Monday, then, the many traders who had been hoping for another superspike, "are panicking out of the trade" said Bill Baruch, senior market strategist at Chicago-based iiTrader. "This is panic selling right here." http://www.cnbc.com/id/102289402 DGAZ ftw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machetemoonlight Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I believe I read today ATL has only had 2 lows of 32 or lower this month...if they do not get another one they will break the record from December of 84 I believe which only had 3. Jan '85 hummina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowless in Carrollton Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 James Spann just showed an RPM map that shows over half a foot of rain in parts of AL and GA. Is this realistic ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POWERSTROKE Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I can't wait till that big block sets up over Greenland great big tall Western Ridge, ridge over Alaska its going to get cold folks. Surely all those analogues Can't be wrong? Sea surface temperature Analogues says we are in for epic winter I've heard at least a million times this fall. It's got to be true!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbjr Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I can't wait till that big block sets up over Greenland great big tall Western Ridge, ridge over Alaska its going to get cold folks. Surely all those analogues Can't be wrong? Sea surface temperature Analogues says we are in for epic winter I've heard at least a million times this fall. It's got to be true!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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