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2014/15 Winter Banter and General Observations


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I really am feeling a solid winter event for all of us Sat nite. Lay down a few inches to the water and lock it in with ice inland as we stay below 32. Really feeling good

I'll start feelin pretty good if we can get the euro to look more like the GFS with the high pressure. Right now the euro is a shade east for my liking with the high. It's a nice airmass but I want to see the high lift more northerly at the onset.

But there's still a lot of time for this to change. Next 2-3 runs will be critical as it will be inside 100 hours by then.

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I really am feeling a solid winter event for all of us Sat nite. Lay down a few inches to the water and lock it in with ice inland as we stay below 32. Really feeling good

I'm not feeling as good down here but usually I'm good for an inch or two before the changing begins...and I'll take it. Just hope 0z euro comes in colder.

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Why would you post something like that? That leads to those posts from Ray who thinks he's in some kind of a special snow spot in this pattern and is going to jackpot lol

We aren't going to go snowless. I will say a place like BDL will get 8 inches or more by Jan 15th

Because Ray is absolutely and unquestionably in a better position than you in an SWFE.
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I'm not feeling as good down here but usually I'm good for an inch or two before the changing begins...and I'll take it. Just hope 0z euro comes in colder.

With the decent spread to the south on the Ens...and the trend colder and weaker on the primary on all models I feel decent about a decent event. Not all snow.. But maybe we can stay below 32
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Just bored and playing around with stuff at work, looks like the GEFS 11-15 day from 12/25/14 will verify better than the EC 11-15 day valid from 12/25/14. That is, if you believe the 6-10 forecasts are correct. It may not matter going forward, but the lower heights over the SW and SE ridge on the EC may have been a little too strong. We'll see how it looks in the 1-5 day period, in 5 days.

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Scott what do you think would cause the northern stream shortwave to just go poof?  GFS has kept it on consistently now even though it was out to sea in previous runs it still maintained the shortwave.  My question is what will make the shortwave disappear, I can see timing issues being a problem, but actually disappearing?  The EURO is worse than the GFS with northern stream disturbances.  There is no relying on the phasing and timing of shortwaves in question, its just one shortwave with a +PNA pattern present.

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Scott what do you think would cause the northern stream shortwave to just go poof?  GFS has kept it on consistently now even though it was out to sea in previous runs it still maintained the shortwave.  My question is what will make the shortwave disappear, I can see timing issues being a problem, but actually disappearing?  The EURO is worse than the GFS with northern stream disturbances.  There is no relying on the phasing and timing of shortwaves in question, its just one shortwave with a +PNA pattern present.

 

Well if it's just a very weak wave in zonal flow, it won't do much other than some snow showers. It's possible, although since it doesn't take much moisture in an arctic airmass to generate snow, you won't need a massive and buckling s/w to create snow. There is also the risk it redevelops overhead and sort of gives a few flurries while steadier snow occurs north. Again, 7+ days out means you shouldn't lock the snowier solution.

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Well it's true. There's noone more BY centric than him and he hates when others get snow and he doesn't, but I know how much he loves snow and how important it is to him to always get the most, so I hope his wishes for that come true. In a swfe winter with no big coastals he should hopefully do well

 

You guys and your weenie snow competition are quite funny.

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Because Ray is absolutely and unquestionably in a better position than you in an SWFE.

Yeah, I think it's more he logs on here to get amped for snow like most of us and loves to see a bunch of posts about how south of the Pike isn't the promised land. Rather hear about what he could get vs how much he could not get. Glass half full kinda guy...or more like the glass is always over-flowing full even if it looks dire, haha.

Edit mods should just move this to the banter thread.

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Well to give my numbers, as historical stats is my one pro area here, My calculations for my region of Northern RI state that to have a great winter we would have to have 25" by this weekend, and I'm still below 4". Now, seasons with Less than 4" heading into January And seasons with Less than an Inch of Snow in December like this one, all fall between 15"-35" for the Season Total. So pretty much, outside of a History making comeback in January through April that has Never been seen before (season to season speaking), this season is an unmitigated disaster. GFS still shows just rain storms or cold without precip. like this winter has been until the 15th. As ESPN says - Numbers, Never Lie.

Though I still am going to believe Ray's Prediction of a HECS 2 Footer. Which I'm Always super happy with a winter that has 1 monster of B or 2005 or B of 2013 or B of 1996 style and historical value Regardless of what the rest had.

It's ugly but most here are optimistic of an onslaught of snow starting soon. I've lubed my shovel and put the snow stakes in the ground. Wood is chopped, fires stoked, bring it on!

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