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December Med/Long Range Disco


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12z Euro - 168 Hour Panel looks really impressive.  That would be one heck of storm, from wind driven snows on the back side of the storm to a major severe weather threat for the Eastern US.  Yep, based on what I'm reading on what the GFS is showing and now the Euro, we should have plenty to watch.  Definitely exciting stuff..

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Somewhat serious question for all of the people stoked about the upcoming pattern - if it really is all that & a bag of snow chips - should we not see fantasy storms start to pop up all over the place on a variety of the long range models?

There is an event, fairly minor showing up on the GFS brothers at around day 10

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There is an event, fairly minor showing up on the GFS brothers at around day 10

 

That sure gets the blood going...

 

Wasn't necessarily trying to be entirely snarky - but - looking for a marker re: this epic upcoming pattern from those who are pointing to it. At what point do we start to see theoretical systems on the long range that bear evidence of potential payoffs down the road.

 

Because, and folks don't want to talk about this, but epic cold can often come with epic dry. 

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Euro gets down to 961 over Lake Huron. Pretty close to the position of the GFS. #SantaBomb 

 

November (Thanksgiving) 1950 or even January 26, 1978 redux??  Looks very similar to the 1950 storm as some have mentioned.  The Ohio storm in 1978, surface low came out of the Gulf, though, and phased with a northern stream wave (the one currently in the models is farther north).

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That sure gets the blood going...

 

Wasn't necessarily trying to be entirely snarky - but - looking for a marker re: this epic upcoming pattern from those who are pointing to it. At what point do we start to see theoretical systems on the long range that bear evidence of potential payoffs down the road.

 

Because, and folks don't want to talk about this, but epic cold can often come with epic dry. 

 

To be honest, I've been a bit worried seeing cutter-like systems followed by cold and dry during that time frame lately.  Granted, that's in the ops run at day 10, but still.  Previously, there were a couple of systems that were very interesting, sort of like the "theoretical" storms in the long range you mentioned.

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Euro has +13 850's overhead d10. Model war!

 

GFS doesn't have +13 at day 10, but 850s are still above zero.  It's a borderline situation that doesn't look great until later forecast hours, when 850s finally go back below zero.  Of course, looks like most of the precip is gone by then (with maybe some on the back-end)?  Appears to be an overrunning kind of situation, cold leading into it, but warms up as it approaches, then cold after (where have we heard that before?!).

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