40/70 Benchmark Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 "Forecasters" ..there were about 100 of us. I think I mentioned Jerry once. You are the stubborm one...how does the egg taste... You anal retentiveness on this point which you have posted uh maybe 35 times in 3 days is indicative of your obsession with being the best forecaster on this board. calling out Jerry time after time because he stated he had never seen a setup like that was snarky and bad Juju. Hopefully it doesn't come back to smack you in the ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 The same group that was in awe of the most pedestrain nor 'easter known to man. I'm sure Steve will find some data denoting a parking lot in RI reporting its 3rd deepest puddle on record in the 2nd week of December when the landlord wore silk boxers. hey Charlie Brown no window watching snow? Sucks huh. I heard it was snowing in Tolland Ct, that must piss you off to no end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 all 3 of the major ensemble means look pretty good today by xmas. start to weaken the nao a bit too - though some of that is maybe just a function of the overall shift in the pacific too Yes. Definitely the best euro ens look in awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 hey Charlie Brown no window watching snow? Sucks huh. I heard it was snowing in Tolland Ct, that must piss you off to no end. Don't know, don't care. Not jealous of a slushy coating. Sucks you were wrong. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 "Forecasters" ..there were about 100 of us. I think I mentioned Jerry once. You are the stubborm one...how does the egg taste... What egg ,ski areas all I cared about on this one sonny. Probably the most anomalous setup since Feb 10. not pedestrian at all either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainman Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Dr. Cohen updated his AO blog a few days ago and I haven't seen it mentioned. He basically cancels winter. Just kidding, the -AO is still on for the new year. I do question the relevance of October snow cover at this point. It seemingly did its job, but the stratosphere has recovered and the gains on weakening the PV have been wiped out. We now depend on renewed wave driving independent of October snow cover. I digress. The rest of the discussion is good. Here it is: https://www.aer.com/science-research/climate-weather/arctic-oscillation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 What egg ,ski areas all I cared about on this one sonny. Probably the most anomalous setup since Feb 10. not pedestrian at all either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 What egg ,ski areas all I cared about on this one sonny. Probably the most anomalous setup since Feb 10. not pedestrian at all either.I agree. Last nights storm was not pedestrian. Abandoned cars in flood waters all over town. Whole streets closed. Basement flooding rivaling 2001. And that's just here. Was it major? No. Extremely disruptive? Hell yeah. Half of my backyard is still under standing water right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Dr. Cohen updated his AO blog a few days ago and I haven't seen it mentioned. He basically cancels winter. Just kidding, the -AO is still on for the new year. I do question the relevance of October snow cover at this point. It seemingly did its job, but the stratosphere has recovered and the gains on weakening the PV have been wiped out. We now depend on renewed wave driving independent of October snow cover. I digress. The rest of the discussion is good. Here it is: https://www.aer.com/science-research/climate-weather/arctic-oscillation everything seems on schedule, great read thanks for the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 for an ensemble mean at that timeframe, pretty good signal for a storm around the 21st/22nd too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I agree. Last nights storm was not pedestrian. Abandoned cars in flood waters all over town. While streets closed. Basement flooding rivaling 2001. And that's just here. Was it major? No. Extremely disruptive? Hell yeah. Half of my backyard is still under standing water right now. it didn't snow = pedestrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 for an ensemble mean at that timeframe, pretty good signal for a storm around the 21st/22nd too nice to see, and much nicer to see you back posting here. You are doing a fantastic job with social media. I linked your website to a bunch of my friends and they love your site even though you are Cape Cod centric they love the non hype steadiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Yes. Definitely the best euro ens look in awhile. Yeah looks good. Hopefully it continues. The weakening +NAO has been showing up for a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 it didn't snow = pedestrian was a decent storm...but by SNE standards, was far from a big deal, imo. disruptive but we get those all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 thats a helluva an island, models had the entire Northern sections +2 to +4 the first 7 days of Dec, every green area you see here was expected to torch relatively speaking but yea its the cutoffs fault, okey dokey Steve, it's almost as if you completely forgot these posts: Yeah I'm def not on the extended torch bandwagon. But we may struggle to find a good setup for bigger snow events. We might squeak out a SWFE or something. The one good thing is the best chance of cold in the country in the extended seems to be pointed at New England. Even if the northern plains torch a bit. http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/44963-december-winter-is-finally-here/?p=3164888 http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/44963-december-winter-is-finally-here/?p=3164799 http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/44963-december-winter-is-finally-here/?p=3164559 http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/44963-december-winter-is-finally-here/?p=3164377 I mean, am I going mad? You are now saying I am blaming the cutoff for the colder look in New England through 12/10 despite repeated posts that said New England region could escape the warmth? That is probably one of the dumber comments you've made recently. Maybe you haven't been reading this thread as much as I thought. The cutoff is what keeps us from torching 12/10-12/15...not what kept us from torching through the first 10 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 nice to see, and much nicer to see you back posting here. You are doing a fantastic job with social media. I linked your website to a bunch of my friends and they love your site even though you are Cape Cod centric they love the non hype steadiness. thank you steve. i'm not back though lol. just checking in from time-to-time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 was a decent storm...but by SNE standards, was far from a big deal, imo. disruptive but we get those all the time. True but definitely not pedestrian and some places multiple records were set so there's that and the fact its not over. Plus I am talking about the northeast as a whole. Unusual Meteorologically speaking was the original points but some were using it as an excuse to bash, but that's cool we know how they roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Steve, it's almost as if you completely forgot these posts: http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/44963-december-winter-is-finally-here/?p=3164888 http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/44963-december-winter-is-finally-here/?p=3164799 http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/44963-december-winter-is-finally-here/?p=3164559 http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/44963-december-winter-is-finally-here/?p=3164377 I mean, am I going mad? You are now saying I am blaming the cutoff for the colder look in New England through 12/10 despite repeated posts that said New England region could escape the warmth? That is probably one of the dumber comments you've made recently. Maybe you haven't been reading this thread as much as I thought. The cutoff is what keeps us from torching 12/10-12/15...not what kept us from torching through the first 10 days. I was responding directly to your post Will Yeah we were a localized island that avoided the torch...but that general CONUS torch still verified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Yeah I don't know how many times we said the east won't torch with that pattern and HP overhead. I know I said several times, it's not a torch pattern, but rather a lousy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 It would have if it weren't for the cut off. you responded to this Will, it wasn't the cutoff, perhaps you were not reading as close as I thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 NB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I agree. Last nights storm was not pedestrian. Abandoned cars in flood waters all over town. Whole streets closed. Basement flooding rivaling 2001. And that's just here. Was it major? No. Extremely disruptive? Hell yeah. Half of my backyard is still under standing water right now.We have had plenty of flooding worse than this since 2001....did you miss the Merrimack swallowing parts of Lowell in May 2006? It was a nor easter with heavy rain...they happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 2-4" of rain and 60mph winds. It was a good storm, but nothing uncommon. We had 50-55mph and 6" of rain at the end of October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Yeah I don't know how many times we said the east won't torch with that pattern and HP overhead. I know I said several times, it's not a torch pattern, but rather a lousy one. It has been an awesome pattern for anomalous cold rainstorms in December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Have to give Jeffafafa Dryslot credit, he said he hated retro storms like this. again if that liquid was snow as it was in 69 the pedestrian talk would be unheard of, its all about the snow I guess. scooter nailed it, crap airmass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Have to give Jeffafafa Dryslot credit, he said he hated retro storms like this. again if that liquid was snow as it was in 69 the pedestrian talk would be unheard of, its all about the snow I guess. scooter nailed it, crap airmass.If my aunt had balls.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 If my aunt had balls.... she'd have something you don"t... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Well those are two different things. You can't evaluate storms on QPF all the time. Apples to oranges when talking rain or snow. We avg more 2-4" rain events than 2-4' snow events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 2-4" of rain and 60mph winds. It was a good storm, but nothing uncommon. We had 50-55mph and 6" of rain at the end of October. next snowstorm with 2-4 liquid equiva and 60 mph winds will be uncommon too if you think about it. In 2010 I had 10 inches of rain with 55 mph winds now that was uncommon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Well those are two different things. You can't evaluate storms on QPF all the time. Apples to oranges when talking rain or snow. We avg more 2-4" rain events than 2-4' snow events. its all about the snow, point being the original discussion by Jerry was about the met setup, which was twisted into the words epic, historical by the snarky bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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