40/70 Benchmark Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Haha, I'm not sure how we could get a better run that that. 12"+ from BTV to Tamarack and down near ORH to the Berks. I think we could conjure up something a bit more appetizing than Dec 1996 redux. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo1000 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I am wondering what is driving this positive NAO we had this last winter too but had a negative EPO to help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Lol 30 miles between an inch and 2 feet. Why not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I am wondering what is driving this positive NAO we had this last winter too but had a negative EPO to help us. Not a clue, SSTs argue it should be strongly negative, but many times during the 1980-1994 period we had SST patterns like this and a positive NAO...I'm not too up to speed on NAO stuff but I have on and off seen stuff written claiming we may be going into a more positive NAO regime again much as we did in the 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 ec.jpg The weatherbell snow maps make my head spin. They are so bad, just so bad. It likes to think it snows with mid-level temps above freezing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 In the marginal areas they count just about everything freezing or frozen as 10-1 snow. So you get the extreme cut off line on the southern edge of where "it could possibly be snow". Up in your area it might be ok by assuming 10-1 as it does, or you might have even better ratios than it thinks. But hey it's fun to look at. . The weatherbell snow maps make my head spin. They are so bad, just so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I think we could conjure up something a bit more appetizing than Dec 1996 redux. This event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Not a clue, SSTs argue it should be strongly negative, but many times during the 1980-1994 period we had SST patterns like this and a positive NAO...I'm not too up to speed on NAO stuff but I have on and off seen stuff written claiming we may be going into a more positive NAO regime again much as we did in the 80s. Not surprising....we had a great run of -nao winters. Regression now taken shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 The weatherbell snow maps make my head spin. They are so bad, just so bad. It likes to think it snows with mid-level temps above freezing. Yeah way too much snow down in CT on that...and probably not enough near Ray based on what I saw on the Euro. But the maps are weenie fodder as it is...nevermind analyzing them versus a 132 hour OP run to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 ec.jpg Other vendors are not nearly as robust...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 This event? That was only round two. Round 1 gave like 10-15 inches for ORH county and Berks...epic 1-2 punch like 18 hours apart. We had 26" total IMBY...to go with the thundersnow famously seen on TWC with Cantore. Round 1 actually was ok for E MA too...dynamically flipped to S+ after rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Not surprising....we had a great run of -nao winters. Regression now taken shape. We switched regimes in 1995 so its been close to 20 years, unfortunately, unlike the previous NAO period that average very negative this one has had many positive NAO winters such as 1997-2000 and even another stretch in the 2000s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Must have been one of the better events in that mediocre winter...until 4/1 of course. There is a very mediocre winter that probably looks quite good in SNE based on total snowfall. This event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo1000 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 We switched regimes in 1995 so its been close to 20 years, unfortunately, unlike the previous NAO period that average very negative this one has had many positive NAO winters such as 1997-2000 and even another stretch in the 2000s. Ya not good for snow lovers such as myself. Hopefully the NAO goes negative before Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 This event? Yes. Please put that thing away. That is an indecent exposure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Yes. Please put that thing away. That is an indecent exposure. Oh it's coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 That 96 storm was good here. I was in Vernon then, but the hills had like 16 inches I believe between the 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Oh it's coming. Chances are it won't. I'd rather it even track farther west......but odds are that extreme cut off as evident in my neighbor's back hard on the EURO will not verify. Either send it farther east, or cut further west. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 That 96 storm was good here. I was in Vernon then, but the hills had like 16 inches I believe between the 2 I had 8" in round 1, and 2" before the flip to rain in round 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 That was only round two. Round 1 gave like 10-15 inches for ORH county and Berks...epic 1-2 punch like 18 hours apart. We had 26" total IMBY...to go with the thundersnow famously seen on TWC with Cantore. Round 1 actually was ok for E MA too...dynamically flipped to S+ after rain. Oh nice. I didn't know that event was the t-snow Cantore clip...that's a classic. There must've been some wild banding, as there are a bunch of 20"+ amounts in NE VT near Lyndon, and its hard for that area to get dumped on in nor'easters because of the Whites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 Cantore storm? I think that may have been the system before that that gave mby 5-6 of paste. I was away and my wife called and said...."you didn't tell me it would snow!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Chances are it won't. I'd rather it even track farther west......but odds are that extreme cut off as evident in my neighbor's back hard on the EURO will not verify. Either send it farther east, or cut further west. Thanks. Be afraid, be very afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Chances are it won't. I'd rather it even track farther west......but odds are that extreme cut off as evident in my neighbor's back hard on the EURO will not verify. Either send it farther east, or cut further west. Thanks. Haha... the "if I have to get shafted, I want everyone to get shafted" mentality. But yeah, I can see where that would be hard in your area. Its one thing for CNE/NNE to get snow, but to rain while watching ORH pick up 12"+ is grounds for annoyance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Hanrahan grabs a Wood phrase and tosses @ryanhanrahan: @BradNBCCT A classic "toss the GFS" and go with the foreign models. Euro Ensembles virtually all on board with the nor'easter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 It was nothing special around ALB...maybe six inches. Oh nice. I didn't know that event was the t-snow Cantore clip...that's a classic. There must've been some wild banding, as there are a bunch of 20"+ amounts in NE VT near Lyndon, and its hard for that area to get dumped on in nor'easters because of the Whites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 We were on IRC then I believe. You were almost ready to start forecasting for Nemas Boston. ...and I had very little gray hair. Cantore storm? I think that may have been the system before that that gave mby 5-6 of paste. I was away and my wife called and said...."you didn't tell me it would snow!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Storm 1 gave you like 5" of paste Jerry. I had TSSN in that too. Storm 2 buried ORH and briefly gave snow to about Wellsley. We were like 40F before it started snowing in storm 1. Heavy heavy wetbulbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 ec.jpg I am going to be SOOO envious if anything remote to that plays out while I'm in the flats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 If someone wants to start a threat thread for next week's system feel free. Then we can keep this thread mostly for pattern talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 If someone wants to start a threat thread for next week's system feel free. Then we can keep this thread mostly for pattern talk. I'll do it. I've had decent luck so far this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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