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December-winter is finally here!


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Wow, Euro gets frigid over the interior as the 2nd storm moves in...its in the teens actually. Mid-levels are a problem south of the pike though...but def a shot of snow there for many.

 

 

Lets also preface this whole thing by saying I'm looking at panels 120hr to 144hr...don't get too excited yet.

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ice or snow verbatim? 

 

Start as snow pretty much everywhere...then changes over to ice/rain as it lifts north.

 

But I think most would be pleased with that...could be some high end advisory snows before any change over.  Maybe even low warning.

 

But the details are irrelevant at Day 6.  The storm is still there.

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How about this for weenie hope:

 

Any chance that the turd of a long term pattern is correlated with the short term outcome of the early next week system?  What I'm asking is if by some lucky chance we get a big storm early next week could that by itself be a bellwether for long term changes?  There's lots of ugly long range pattern posts and I'm starting to grasp at straws here.

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I think you'll enjoy that 12z EURO run.

That's how you do it in a crappy pattern....with a 1046mb high to the north.

Yeah that's what a few of us were saying yesterday when many were slashing their necks with bayonets . You focus on positive chances.. While acknowledging negative. Still plenty of time to go though
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Wow, Euro gets frigid over the interior as the 2nd storm moves in...its in the teens actually. Mid-levels are a problem south of the pike though...but def a shot of snow there for many.

 

 

Lets also preface this whole thing by saying I'm looking at panels 120hr to 144hr...don't get too excited yet.

20s for BDL?

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I think it's a long shot here. Would be nice before we go into the crapper.

Absolutely it's a long shot for us, inland though I think there's a decent signal for something considering that ensemble/operational guidance is in a decent agreement for some sort of event early next week.

 

But hey, it's something to track, and that's always fun no matter the outcome.

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Yeah that's what a few of us were saying yesterday when many were slashing their necks with bayonets . You focus on positive chances.. While acknowledging negative. Still plenty of time to go though

 

Well Coastalwx was right when he said the true rough period is actually after that system early next week.  Its basically like Dec 9-10 onward that looks rugged.

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Euro tries to cook up another one for mid-week, but it only scrapes SE MA.

 

Actually its a bit further west than first glance...advisory for E MA.

 

 

180 hours out though. There's like 3 shortwaves that are all messing around in this longwave trough.

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Absolutely it's a long shot for us, inland though I think there's a decent signal for something considering that ensemble/operational guidance is in a decent agreement for some sort of event early next week.

 

But hey, it's something to track, and that's always fun no matter the outcome.

Exactly!!  The chase/tracking is always fun...and it looks like we have something to Chase/Track.  Let's hope it gives us a little Winter?!

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Who's to say the pattern goes to crap after. This week and next was discussed as shut off. No one has any clue that far out

 

 

It looks much worse beyond next week than this coming week did. We specifically said Quebec highs and some sneaky cold may save New England/Northeast versus the rest of the CONUS...the further out in long range doesn't look like that. It could still change, but I'm less optimistic at this point.

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