powderfreak Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Why are the 850s so high right now? Is this part of the big warm up out in the plains and midwest? Yes. The torch is there, it's just not reaching the surface except above the inversion on the peaks. But 45F at 4900ft in NNY is pretty damn warm for Dec 15th. Just be very glad we are below that inversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Yes. The torch is there, it's just not reaching the surface except above the inversion on the peaks. But 45F at 4900ft in NNY is pretty damn warm for Dec 15th. Just be very glad we are below that inversion. MWN record for the month is 47. So tickling 40 today is pretty impressive as you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Cutter for Xmas Eve on 12z Euro..toss it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Valley Snowman Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 the 12z euro op verbatim would be a tough pill to swallow, with a huge 977 mb southern slider follow by a Christmas cutter, thankfully there's plenty of time for those to change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Cutter for Xmas Eve on 12z Euro..toss it Yeah that's an ugly grinch storm...there's your rain to north of Montreal. Gets you into the 50s with +10C at 925mb. Scream in' sou'easter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariof Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 MWN record for the month is 47. So tickling 40 today is pretty impressive as you say. Heh, Obs website (automated) reporting 28, NWS reporting 41 from the hourly observation. I'm guessing NWS reading is right (I wonder if the Obs sensor is rimed over, but gosh a few hours at 40 you'd think that it would melt off already). It must be fun to drive from freezing fog and 28 at Crawfords and find low 40s down in Conway. Unless you like having snow and live in Conway, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Heh, Obs website (automated) reporting 28, NWS reporting 41 from the hourly observation. I'm guessing NWS reading is right (I wonder if the Obs sensor is rimed over, but gosh a few hours at 40 you'd think that it would melt off already). It must be fun to drive from freezing fog and 28 at Crawfords and find low 40s down in Conway. Unless you like having snow and live in Conway, that is. They were calling in observations to us to input into the system. This is actually pretty frequent in melting regimes, water is typically what gives them trouble rather than ice. 41 is the correct temp though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 inversionA balmy 46 at IJD so far. Probably will fall just short of tickling 50, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Record high on Mansfield, 45F! Lol meanwhile 32F at BTV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Yeah that's an ugly grinch storm...there's your rain to north of Montreal. Gets you into the 50s with +10C at 925mb. Scream in' sou'easter. Part of the step down to winter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Paul Gordon Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 The Grinch storm has become such a regular feature people ought to plan on it or at least not be surprised by it. Wouldn't bet the house on it yet, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Obviously looking way out there, but after the 21st potential it looks ugly for a bit. I'm sure that grinch storm will happen exactly as modeled too And for pure comedy, the gfs is also showing a cutter for new years eve. Wouldn't that be something. Whiff on the 21st and have cutters blast into new york on Christmas and new years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Paul Gordon Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 The only thing that's been consistent is the cold at the end of the op runs. Chasing the wind...... and getting dizzy in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 What do ens show for 24-25 storm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR Airglow Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 What do ens show for 24-25 storm? Looks like a lakes cutter to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Obviously looking way out there, but after the 21st potential it looks ugly for a bit. I'm sure that grinch storm will happen exactly as modeled too And for pure comedy, the gfs is also showing a cutter for new years eve. Wouldn't that be something. Whiff on the 21st and have cutters blast into new york on Christmas and new years. Coastal already warned us that the next three storms are transitional storms and could turn out ugly. We will have to take it in stride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Plenty of time to change and work on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share Posted December 15, 2014 Cutter 12/24 actually makes sense in the pattern evolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Cutter 12/24 actually makes sense in the pattern evolution. agree….after that the pattern is drool worthy on the euro ens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Transition storms. The 12/24 could actually be somewhat SWFE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whineminster Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 looks like tonight could be sneaky icy for the interior folks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Record high on Mansfield, 45F! Lol meanwhile 32F at BTV. Haha we had a record high at the top of the lifts but yet never got out of the 20s at the office. Not often that'll happen haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo1000 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 After seeing the gfs models I am questioning a pattern change now look at all those inland cutters. Even one on Dec 30th-31st its showing on the 12Z GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 If you're off the bandwagon then don't bother jumping back on when the pattern changes to colder/snowier. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 If you're off the bandwagon then don't bother jumping back on when the pattern changes to colder/snowier. Thanks. I am completely in favor of forbidding the enjoyment of storms by those who publicly threw in the towel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 After seeing the gfs models I am questioning a pattern change now look at all those inland cutters. Even one on Dec 30th-31st its showing on the 12Z GFS. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo1000 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 One cutter is ok but the way the gfs was today the 12z especially it was ugly. I just don't like cutter need coastals instead. I do like the long range will the cold air nearby but we need snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 May have to watch for some spotty freezing drizzle tonight/ early tomorrow with light east flow over low level coldAWT@RhodeIslandEMA: Drivers: Please be advised. Potential for freezing rain to create icy road conditions late tonight into Tues AM #RIwx http://t.co/0WELDXbDYg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 In any case I'll post a thread later about the changes. Or, unless another met wants to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Not sure about weeks , but it will be a change for at least a little while.Wait.. The cold pattern is supposed to basically lock in for rest of winter . What's changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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