buckeyefan1 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 image.jpg It looks like he just forgot western before the NC in that sentence, as he has it correct in the sentence before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marion_NC_WX Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Robert (wx south) is calling for a significant wet snow for most of NC. That type of call just seems ridiculous given what is shaping up. He is on an island by himself with a call like that. Good god almighty...you need to read before posting. Simple use of grammar in the english language tells you that you don't have to specify mountains every time for every state he mentions...hence the use of commas. This is about as bad as some of the TV guys in this region who has become the weather patrol all of a sudden on social media worried that the lunatic fringe is going to hurt their reputation. He's talking about mountains (above 2500 ft) and possible token flakes of flash turnover along the immediate lee as the event ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiaWx Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 "I'd be shocked if most of NC, VA and eastern WV mountains don't get a significant wet snowstorm out of this." I believe this is what Marietta is talking about. It could have been worded differently but he's saying nc mountains. It looks like he just forgot western before the NC in that sentence, as he has it correct in the sentence before. My mistake, that makes more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Track Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 image.jpg He should have put mountains after NC and VA to clarify but I guarantee that's what he meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Track Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Well after NC I mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazdaddy Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 It looks like he just forgot western before the NC in that sentence, as he has it correct in the sentence before. Just read his site page. Def talking mountains. That was a typo for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowless in Carrollton Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Really?!? Where do you see that, this is Roberts posts. Basically what has been reiterated over and over again on the boards tonight. "This is a soaker of a system, that starts in the eastern Gulf. Its a hearbreaker for those of you in the heart of the Piedmont NC, VA, SC, GA region because it's just not QUITE cold enough to do the job for a major low elevation snow storm....but if we repeat this pattern later this Winter, and I think we will, then Watch Out. This is about the perfect track for a snowstorm from Atlanta/Athens, , north and east. As it stands, mostly Mountain snow, with some transition at times just east of the mountains. Look at all the Moisture with this...it is loaded." that's gotta be a joke right ? Soaker of a system ? I probably won't get a drop of rain. So even If this were the perfect track for a snowstorm,it doesn't matter If there's no moisture ! WPC shows less than 0.10" for Atlanta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 that's gotta be a joke right ? Soaker of a system ? I probably won't get a drop of rain. So even If this were the perfect track for a snowstorm,it doesn't matter If there's no moisture ! WPC shows less than 0.10" for Atlanta.With theoretical 20:1 ratios, you would have a theoretical 2 inches of snow and that = 100% of ATL yearly avg.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiaWx Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 that's gotta be a joke right ? Soaker of a system ? I probably won't get a drop of rain. So even If this were the perfect track for a snowstorm,it doesn't matter If there's no moisture ! WPC shows less than 0.10" for Atlanta. This system is Not the perfect track for Atlanta, that is part of your problem.. It is a soaker though for some folks. Just because it's dry in your backyard doesn't mean the system is dry. That's like saying because you ate food today, world hunger doesn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Nice deformation band forming over me. Rain a little ahead of schedule, it will probably be over and sunny by noon tomorrow . Temp is 49 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowless in Carrollton Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 This system is Not the perfect track for Atlanta, that is part of your problem.. It is a soaker though for some folks. Just because it's dry in your backyard doesn't mean the system is dry. That's like saying because you ate food today, world hunger doesn't exist.I'm well aware its a soaker for some, but mainly for the east coast and not our area. My main issue was with Robert saying or implying that if this had been winter it would or could have been a major snowstorm for Atlanta. But with no moisture or very little how could it possibly be a big snowstorm for Atlanta ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiaWx Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I'm well aware its a soaker for some, but mainly for the east coast and not our area. My main issue was with Robert saying or implying that if this had been winter it would or could have been a major snowstorm for Atlanta. But with no moisture or very little how could it possibly be a big snowstorm for Atlanta ? I agree, but we are talking about a hypothetical storm that hasn't happened. Gawx had some interesting theorycrafting earlier in this thread I think talking about the timing Of low formations and how different cities benefit atlanta vs other SE locations. It was agreed that our area wants to see a western or central GoM start as opposed to an eastern like this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 When the models were showing warm, warm and more warm for this system, they were very correct and even had it to cold. They were showing mid-upper 30s and the cold rain, I am currently at 46.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 When the models were showing warm, warm and more warm for this system, they were very correct and even had it to cold. They were showing mid-upper 30s and the cold rain, I am currently at 46.2 This is a good point to remember going into winter. Without a solid cold air source, 3 day snowstorms will be aplenty, leaving many wondering why mild rain is falling 3 days later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 This is a good point to remember going into winter. Without a solid cold air source, 3 day snowstorms will be aplenty, leaving many wondering why mild rain is falling 3 days later. You figured we'd learn that by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WidreMann Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Nice deformation band forming over me. Rain a little ahead of schedule, it will probably be over and sunny by noon tomorrow . Temp is 49It's not a deformation band. It's just a band of rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 When the models were showing warm, warm and more warm for this system, they were very correct and even had it to cold. They were showing mid-upper 30s and the cold rain, I am currently at 46.2 Yup. My cold rain is busting. Still in the low 40s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy1987 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 It is absolutely ripping the fatties out there. Temp has gone from 33.6 to 32.9 with these parachutes. Everything is covered now except the roads. Keeps up won't be long as the roofs are fully covered. Id peg this as an overperformer for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I'm surprised Asheville got screwed over. Unfortunate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 It's not a deformation band. It's just a band of rain.It looked deformed on radar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Clipper looks pretty good for southern VA...maybe the NC boarder counties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltadog03 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Looks like Beech got up to 6"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullCityWx Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Clipper looks pretty good for southern VA...maybe the NC boarder counties. Actually, I think it has a decent shot at providing snow showers over alot of NC west of 77. This may be something to watch around 7AM on thanksgiving morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I'm well aware its a soaker for some, but mainly for the east coast and not our area. My main issue was with Robert saying or implying that if this had been winter it would or could have been a major snowstorm for Atlanta. But with no moisture or very little how could it possibly be a big snowstorm for Atlanta ?longer wavelengths in winter than November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover91 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Clipper looks pretty good for southern VA...maybe the NC boarder counties. 925mb and surface temps are way too warm, checked the NAM and no on one NC outside of the mountains are cold enough for that clipper to produce snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Actually, I think it has a decent shot at providing snow showers over alot of NC west of 77. This may be something to watch around 7AM on thanksgiving morning. I hope so...I will be in West Jefferson! 925mb and surface temps are way too warm, checked the NAM and no on one NC outside of the mountains are cold enough for that clipper to produce snow. Good deal. Didn't look at the lower layers at all. I was extrapolating the H5 look and assuming some dryness to the atmosphere to aid in cooling. May still not be enough in the east, though, like you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEGa Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 You figured we'd learn that by now. Lol that's for sure. Rule #1 for se winter wx (outside nc mtns) cold air must be here and in place or feed in prior to the moisture. We need a fresh source of cold air. Without it most end up with rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover91 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I hope so...I will be in West Jefferson! Good deal. Didn't look at the lower layers at all. I was extrapolating the H5 look and assuming some dryness to the atmosphere to aid in cooling. May still not be enough in the east, though, like you said. It's not even close after evaporative cooling with 925mb temps in the low 40s and surface temps similar, across all of NC. The mountains and higher elevations above 3500 feet could see snow but below that the surface layer is too warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 It's not even close after evaporative cooling with 925mb temps in the low 40s and surface temps similar, across all of NC. The mountains and higher elevations above 3500 feet could see snow but below that the surface layer is too warm. Yeah, that sounds too warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullCityWx Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 It's not even close after evaporative cooling with 925mb temps in the low 40s and surface temps similar, across all of NC. The mountains and higher elevations above 3500 feet could see snow but below that the surface layer is too warm. GFS is cooler. I dont trust the NAM to tell me the sky is blue, personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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