IsentropicLift Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 980's in Boston Harbor. Similar to 12z except tick warmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaser25973 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 What exactly are the areas defined as "the coast?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailMan06 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 What exactly are the areas defined as "the coast?"More or less the region defined by the coastal plain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Wxbell snowmap shows 6+ for NYC and more to the south and west of the area. D.C gets alot of snow based off the snowmap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSantanaNYC Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Dont even pay attention to temps..not yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Very consistent which probably means we will soon see other models like the Gfs join in. Once we are sure of the track then we could discuss temps and all that fun stuff. Could very well be a heavy paste job though if it bombs out like that away from immediate coast and especially the further inland you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 0z Euro Snowmap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atownwxwatcher Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 00z ECM from Wunderground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 The Euro ensembles have consistently been east of the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherweather Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 the nam has been saying no ty for many runs. perhaps we should listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96blizz Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 the nam has been saying no ty for many runs. perhaps we should listen. Good to see I'm not alone at this hour. Up with my 1 month old so I'll be playing catch up on last night and watching the GFS. To be honest, I'm never really worried about the NAM at any range. I guess you'd want to see it 'amped up' because that tends to be it's bias, but there is no way this system is going to 'cut', so perhaps it's struggling with how to 'amp it up' correctly. The consistency of the Euro has been remarkable --- and adding the Ukie in it's camp is a powerful combo. That said, we're not out of the woods yet, because an escape East isn't off the table --- especially w/ the Euro Ens consistently East. Gut feeling is the GFS joins the party soon --- then the NAM. Let's see if it starts now, with the 6z run. I think with us within 80 hours or so, we're about to see that tick further West to join the party... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 6z GFS looks like it will be coming west through 75hr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermeh Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 6z GFS is slightly west and is slighty stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96blizz Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 It's West of 0z by a good 75 miles. Looks like Euro Ens. Scary warm for the coastal areas/city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermeh Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 It's West of 0z by a good 75 miles. Looks like Euro Ens. Scary warm for the coastal areas/city.Looks like euro ensembles but a bit warmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Yup looks like rain for LI for entire event and inland gets a paste bomb. damn you great lakes energy for phasing in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyLovesSnow Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I just looked at the GFS 6z and it looked more phased as well as organized. The coastal places might have some mixing during the day but should switch to snow by dusk. This is likely looking like a major snowstorm for the DC-Boston for the Thanksgiving eve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96blizz Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I just looked at the GFS 6z and it looked more phased as well as organized. The coastal places might have some mixing during the day but should switch to snow by dusk. This is likely looking like a major snowstorm for the DC-Boston for the Thanksgiving eve. Easy there pal. It does NOT show that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyLovesSnow Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Easy there pal. It does NOT show that.well the euro does and that's why the GFS is trending towards the Euro 0z In fact the GFS 6z is almost identical to the Euro 0z. Remember it's all about trending in meteorology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96blizz Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 well the euro does and that's why the GFS is trending towards the Euro 0z In fact the GFS 6z is almost identical to the Euro 0z. Remember it's all about trending in meteorology.Nope. Euro does not either. Too warm for the coast and city for major accumulations. I'm not saying it does not happen, just that neither show what you're saying. Euro actually has trended warmer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyLovesSnow Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Nope. Euro does not either. Too warm for the coast and city for major accumulations. I'm not saying it does not happen, just that neither show what you're saying. Euro actually has trended warmer...it did but I still think it'll be a blend of GFS and EURO. Also this storm reminds of the post Sandy snowstorm as far as the pattern. It's going to be a hugger but that doesn't really mean it'll only rain. It'll most likely drizzle until it moistens the atmosphere and when the heavier precipitation moves in, it falls as snow. Initially, Islip and east may get mixing but you've got to remember the models always downgrade nor'easters as far as models always seem to put the snow line around i95 yet, it almost ends up snowing at least up to Islip, NY. except if you have a strong El Niño., similar to the 1997-98 winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96blizz Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 it did but I still think it'll be a blend of GFS and EURO. Also this storm reminds of the post Sandy snowstorm as far as the pattern. It's going to be a hugger but that doesn't really mean it'll only rain. It'll most likely drizzle until it moistens the atmosphere and when the heavier precipitation moves in, it falls as snow. Initially, Islip and east may get mixing but you've got to remember the models always downgrade nor'easters as far as models always seem to put the snow line around i95 yet, it almost ends up snowing at least up to Islip, NY. except if you have a strong El Niño., similar to the 1997-98 winter.No. It did not. I'm not going to keep this going, but this misinformation will get you in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyLovesSnow Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 No. It did not. I'm not going to keep this going, but this misinformation will get you in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96blizz Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Lot of green on the coast/LI/NYC in what you've posted... If it takes that track, you may see snow at the beginning and end, but it's not significant accumulations. Euro Ens and 6z GFS are more favorable for those areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96blizz Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 nyc only gets snow on this run. Good God. Wrong. I'm done with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyLovesSnow Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Good God. Wrong. I'm done with this.stop tagging me I'm entitled to my opinion. Models are only guidance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Good God. Wrong. I'm done with this. Track first and then temps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Euro EPS has a benchmark track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfsheepsheadbay Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 stop tagging me I'm entitled to my opinion. Models are only guidance. Not if your opinion involves reading model output incorrectly and spreading misinformation in the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyLovesSnow Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Not if your opinion involves reading model output incorrectly and spreading misinformation in the forum.but you guys are both wrong because my model output was right. It does show a snow event. East of Islip it shows a mostly rain event, but still I would think dynamic cooling would take care of that. As long as we have a low pressure to our southeast, we will always cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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