Rjay Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Lee Goldberg is a degreed met and one of the best in the business. Please get your facts straight. This! If you're going to pick on someome, pick on Lonine Quinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Models shifting the bullseye closer to the coast with each passing suite. Any more east shifts and the western sections will be left out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96blizz Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 GFS is way drier than the Euro. Again. This is concerning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 The 18z PGFS is not nearly as dry on the NW side as the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Jeez my eyes are bleeding reading this garbage man. Take this to the banter thread with NO meteorlogical backing for this. You have no right saying this to a respected red tagger. Read ALOT more and post ALOT less if you want to last here this winter you can tell it's winter, the riff-raff is coming out of the woodwork. Christ, garbage like this is making this thread largely unreadable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Models shifting the bullseye closer to the coast with each passing suite. Any more east shifts and the western sections will be left out. In order for that to happen you would need a track well outside the benchmark and a more wrapped up solution. Congrats on the trolling attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Models shifting the bullseye closer to the coast with each passing suite. Any more east shifts and the western sections will be left out. So I guess the UK & the Euro mean nothing.. Cool story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WintersGrasp Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 everyone keeps bashing me but think about it this coastal region will get the heaviest precip, therefore best dynamics for snow. Dynamic cooling will lower temperatures it can drop temperatures from low 40's to low 30's in less than an hour if you get a relatively strong storm. Just as a simple quick thought, keep this in mind.....If this were always true, NYC and surrounding areas would rarely be on the east side of the rain/snow line. However, it is quite the contrary. The NW suburbs often stay all snow or all frozen while the NYC area is rain or a mix. This is also why they average less snow in coastal areas. Many strong coastal storms have occurred in the past 10-20 years. Many times the NYC area has turned to rain or started as rain which cut down on accumulations significantly. If this was not the case, NYC would easily average as much or more snow than the NW suburbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I've seen this before from the gfs when it comes to precip amounts and coastals and for some reason it always holds back on LE amounts unless the low is very amplified and strong. I'll happily side with the Euro because I do feel the majority of the area gets at least an 1" of precip but could be more. This is a miller A gulf system and it should be more juiced than the gfs indicates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduardo Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 everyone keeps bashing me but think about it this coastal region will get the heaviest precip, therefore best dynamics for snow. Dynamic cooling will lower temperatures it can drop temperatures from low 40's to low 30's in less than an hour if you get a relatively strong storm. True. On the other hand, there's this large source of heat called the Atlantic Ocean...and it's November.....and there may be a period featuring an easterly fetch, sooo..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 In order for that to happen you would need a track well outside the benchmark and a more wrapped up solution. Congrats on the trolling attempt. Ag3 has never trolled in his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Ag3 has never trolled in his life. If that wasn't a troll attempt I don't know what is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 The 18z PGFS is not nearly as dry on the NW side as the OP. The GFS may be too slow starting precip too...I went back once and looked at about 50 Miller As where there was not an extremely dry airmass in place...in general precipitation starts at NYC about when the surface low is near the NC/SC border...the GFS is not doing that but many of the other models are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickman Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 TonyLovesATimeout. My apologies to our respected mets and knowledgeable amateurs. Let's have some better discussion, and less banter/OT stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96blizz Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 The GFS may be too slow starting precip too...I went back once and looked at about 50 Miller As where there was not an extremely dry airmass in place...in general precipitation starts at NYC about when the surface low is near the NC/SC border...the GFS is not doing that but many of the other models are.Wow. A rational scientific thought and research to back it. How novel. Thx Goose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Point, NY Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 True. On the other hand, there's this large source of heat called the Atlantic Ocean...and it's November.....and there may be a period featuring an easterly fetch, sooo.....Tony hates climo ❄ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 This thread is seriously becoming unreadable. Stop with all the trolling and bickering. This is exactly why people say we have the worst sub forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Its probably time to lock up this thread and start a new one. Pre-Thanksgiving/First winter storm of the season. Maybe we can all make a concerted effort to keep the banter to a minimum and for those that can't..3 strikes and you're out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickman Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Its probably time to lock up this thread and start a new one. Pre-Thanksgiving/First winter storm of the season. Maybe we can all make a concerted effort to keep the banter to a minimum and for those that can't..3 strikes and you're out Go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSNN4 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 This! If you're going to pick on someome, pick on Lonine Quinn. Too easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 If that wasn't a troll attempt I don't know what is I was not trolling. Settle down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickman Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Continue storm discussion here: http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/44970-thanksgiving-eve-secsmecs-part-2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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