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There is actually better support for the clipper-esque system the day after T-day rather than the anafrontal system the day before. Problem is that the ensembles track it too far north for us. The OP track would give us more of a chance.

That one just appeared on guidance last night so we'll see if it is still there as we get closer.

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Anyone ever figure out why LES bands over Buffalo always have the heaviest echoes right on the nrn edge of the band? The ones at the Tug Hill always have the heaviest echoes sort of in the center of the band. It must be a subsidence thing, but this isn't the first time I've seen that. Seems unique to Lake Erie.

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  On 11/18/2014 at 1:58 PM, CoastalWx said:

Anyone ever figure out why LES bands over Buffalo always have the heaviest echoes right on the nrn edge of the band? The ones at the Tug Hill always have the heaviest echoes sort of in the center of the band. It must be a subsidence thing, but this isn't the first time I've seen that. Seems unique to Lake Erie.

 

I have been trying to find the answer to this question forever... Any thoughts? The tug has the strongest in the center of the band because of orographic lift lift due to elevation. I am not sure what the deal is off Erie.

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  On 11/18/2014 at 2:00 PM, BuffaloWeather said:

I have been trying to find the answer to this question forever... Any thoughts? The tug has the strongest in the center of the band because of orographic lift lift due to elevation. I am not sure what the deal is off Erie.

Would elevation do that? I'm not sure it would matter when it comes to that. Maybe it's sinking area on the north side combined with drier air moving off of Ontario peninsula. The srn edge of the band still had it's origins off the water so perhaps it helps that part of the band? But it's interesting to me. When a good band gets going, winds back into the bands to replace all that rising air.

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  On 11/18/2014 at 2:00 PM, WinterWolf said:

Exactly. Like Scooter said, I wouldn't be getting my hopes up at this point. 6-7 days away is a long time to be saying a 50/50 shot. Let's see how things progress.

I certainly would not rule anything out, but I know deep down weenies want something to work out. It's just not worth setting yourself up. Hopefully it gains traction as we get closer. Enjoy a cold week though.

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  On 11/18/2014 at 2:03 PM, CoastalWx said:

Would elevation do that? I'm not sure it would matter when it comes to that. Maybe it's sinking area on the north side combined with drier air moving off of Ontario peninsula. The srn edge of the band still had it's origins off the water so perhaps it helps that part of the band? But it's interesting to me. When a good band gets going, winds back into the bands to replace all that rising air.

Prob the Niagara escarpment. The elevation to the north is lower so if inflow into the band from the north will he upslope. Inflow from the south will be downslope. Might be enough to make the difference

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  On 11/18/2014 at 2:08 PM, ORH_wxman said:

Prob the Niagara escarpment. The elevation to the north is lower so if inflow into the band from the north will he upslope. Inflow from the south will be downslope. Might be enough to make the difference

But you can see this right on down through Lake Erie. It's really interesting.

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still much cloudier across northern Connecticut and southern Connecticut, I drove through the clear line just north of HFD and I barely see a cloud now down in HVN. interesting however that it was 32.7 when I left my house and 1 hour and 15 minutes later its was 31.1 in Milford despite the sunshine, definitely some serious cold air advection going on and definitely the trajectory favoring southwestern areas even more.

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  On 11/18/2014 at 2:41 PM, CTValleySnowMan said:

still much cloudier across northern Connecticut and southern Connecticut, I drove through the clear line just north of HFD and I barely see a cloud now down in HVN. interesting however that it was 32.7 when I left my house and 1 hour and 15 minutes later its was 31.1 in Milford despite the sunshine, definitely some serious cold air advection going on and definitely the trajectory favoring southwestern areas even more.

 

 

Yeah I was mentioning last night how CAA was so strong that we'd probably see temps falling during the day.

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