HoarfrostHubb Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Sorry. That was in December Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Nov 18 2002. Decent ice in central MA. http://www.erh.noaa.gov/box/climate/snowrpts/NO180223 Big one in the early 1970s. 1973 I think Even if it was once a decade somewhere in the NE US I would still say its relatively rare (but I doubt its that often). And usually localized. And when I think ice storm I usually think >0.5", or at least >0.25". Of course I wasn't around in 1973 and was 13 in 2002, so I stand by this statement LOL : "I'm not sure I've ever seen a Northeast US ice storm in November". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Sorry. That was in December I was 5 and in Kindergarten when that hit...I remember that well. We lost power for a couple days, and kept the fireplace roaring to keep warm. We cooked potatoes in foil in the fireplace...never forget that. It was me, my mom and my 4 year old sister. My dad was a Cop, and had to work around the clock due to the storm and all the trees down. That was a bad bad ice storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Nov 18 2002. Decent ice in central MA. http://www.erh.noaa.gov/box/climate/snowrpts/NO180223 Man, I'm not sure I can ever recall seeing negative temp departures that great holding for that long of a duration. Jesus. I was really just now looking at the forecast.....its something right out of early Jan. We are in for a doozy. Can't wait to reassess ssts in a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Man, I'm getting old. I remember that event. I had an inch or two of wet snow and sleet.....I had just turned 22 and was a college kid and in the Marine reserves. It was just before I got activated and sent to Camp Lejune. I remember it distinctly because I was out getting ripped for my bday, hooked up with some chick at a Hotel @ Logan airport, and my buddy just took off without me because I left him hanging. Forget how I even got home One of the funnest stretches of my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 But you also don't usually see this depth of cold air either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Even if it was once a decade somewhere in the NE US I would still say its relatively rare (but I doubt its that often). And usually localized. And when I think ice storm I usually think >0.5", or at least >0.25". Of course I wasn't around in 1973 and was 13 in 2002, so I stand by this statement LOL : "I'm not sure I've ever seen a Northeast US ice storm in November". Oh yeah, definitely rare. I'm sure there are other events where we had icing in the interior, but perhaps nothing major. I know Nov 12 (I think) 1997 had a snow to ice in the interior as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Nov 18 2002. Decent ice in central MA. http://www.erh.noaa.gov/box/climate/snowrpts/NO180223 I bet you could find a few of those advisory level ice events with 1/8-1/3" type ice as listed there. Anyone know of any warning criteria NOV ice storms (ie 0.5"+)? Then again I don't know what Blizz is alluding to when he says ice storm...I usually think half inch or higher accretion as "ice storm", but maybe he's only talking 0.1-0.25" ice which would likely be more common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Man, I'm not sure I can ever recall seeing negative temp departures that great holding for that long of a duration. Jesus. I was really just now looking at the forecast.....its something right out of early Jan. We are in for a doozy. Can't wait to reassess ssts in a week. They'll take a hit for sure. Probably will be U40s by next Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Oh yeah, definitely rare. I'm sure there are other events where we had icing in the interior, but perhaps nothing major. I know Nov 12 (I think) 1997 had a snow to ice in the interior as well. Yeah there's probably been the occasional glaze too. You just don't usually have the deep surface and low level cold that early in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I bet you could find a few of those advisory level ice events with 1/8-1/3" type ice as listed there. Anyone know of any warning criteria NOV ice storms (ie 0.5"+)? Then again I don't know what Blizz is alluding to when he says ice storm...I usually think half inch or higher accretion as "ice storm", but maybe he's only talking 0.1-0.25" ice which would likely be more common. He wants damage, so probably greater than .5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Record low max for ATL is 37 in 2000. They will get close Tuesday, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Interesting that 2002 started off with an ice event as that spring in April 2003 we had a big ice storm in Albany, NY as the last event of the winter. Had 0.5-0.75" ice in the Capital District, some trees down and no power. Meanwhile just north at like GFL and RUT they got 12-20" of snow. Drove up to Killington the next day and went from ice palace scenery near Albany to deep winter snow with 18" in Rutland County near Killington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Uh guys the 7th worst ice storm in US history occurred Nov 26th 1921 in NE http://kmihran.wordpress.com/2013/12/23/the-nations-top-10-worst-ice-storms/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Even if it was once a decade somewhere in the NE US I would still say its relatively rare (but I doubt its that often). And usually localized. And when I think ice storm I usually think >0.5", or at least >0.25". Of course I wasn't around in 1973 and was 13 in 2002, so I stand by this statement LOL : "I'm not sure I've ever seen a Northeast US ice storm in November". Oddly, the 2002 November ice storm in CT was the biggest ice storm in the state since the big one in December 73. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Valley Snowman Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 26.5 here wondering if I can sneak down to 18-19 by morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Valley Snowman Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Oddly, the 2002 November ice storm in CT was the biggest ice storm in the state since the big one in December 73. I'm having a hard time remembering that storm I was living on the eastern outskirts of Springfield MA at the time did we get a lot of ice in that storm or did we end up getting more snow and sleet and the ice was further south and west? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Valley Snowman Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I remember there was a storm where there was a cold wedge building down from the north east and we changd to snow in Springfield but further south and west in Litchfield County Connecticut and even around the Granville mass area there was more ice it was a very unusual situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 The Nov 2002 ice storm was pretty impressive. Some spots had over half inch of ice. We had a little less than that in ORH...ironically, a bit of sleet saved it from being worse. And Dead Sea Scrolls is right about 1921...that is one of the all timers in SNE, and it happened to occur in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Uh guys the 7th worst ice storm in US history occurred Nov 26th 1921 in NE http://kmihran.wordpress.com/2013/12/23/the-nations-top-10-worst-ice-storms/ Lol I was waiting for you to post that exact storm. About 100 years ago, hence rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Lol I was waiting for you to post that exact storm. About 100 years ago, hence rare.huh? Who said they weren't? Pull down the shades warmmonger see you Turkey week, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 huh? Who said they weren't? Pull down the shades warmmonger see you Turkey week, lol Haha guess I read the tone of the post the wrong way, my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Still some signs of the chance of snow next Saturday as a low gets grinded out to our south on the GFS. Nevermind the depiction...all models sort of show something while the cold is here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 The gulf looks active. Good sign for down the road? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 ALY's snow map for Sun/Mon event... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Get the genny's ready Hunch,MPM etc AT THIS POINT...WE MAY SEE A SIGNIFICANT FREEZING RAIN EVENT FOR INTERIOR HIGH TERRAIN OF THE BERKSHIRES /WORCESTER HILLS / MONADNOCKS WHERE SHALLOW COLD AIR BECOMES TRAPPEDWITHIN THE VALLEYS MAINTAINED BY THE AFOREMENTIONED N AGEOSTROPHICFLOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 While northern areas of SNE may start as a bit of snow (I don't think we'll get as much as PF has suggested), it will suck that it's going to wash away as quickly as it may have fallen once the warmer air comes in. Accumulation like that is akin to calling your summer temps a torch because your overnight lows are warm in spite of days upon days of COC perfection. It's true......but not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Get the genny's ready Hunch,MPM etc AT THIS POINT...WE MAY SEE A SIGNIFICANT FREEZING RAIN EVENT FOR INTERIOR HIGH TERRAIN OF THE BERKSHIRES / WORCESTER HILLS / MONADNOCKS WHERE SHALLOW COLD AIR BECOMES TRAPPED WITHIN THE VALLEYS MAINTAINED BY THE AFOREMENTIONED N AGEOSTROPHIC FLOW. I seriously doubt areas as low as 1000' have much to worry about. I'd say protected areas in higher elevations (hi Pete) are in a more precarious situation. But, what the hell do I know. That said, should folks lose power, hopefully it will be short-lived with the more wintry temps coming on the heels of the system. Good AFD from Box this morning. 23.5/17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I seriously doubt areas as low as 1000' have much to worry about. I'd say protected areas in higher elevations (hi Pete) are in a more precarious situation. But, what the hell do I know. That said, should folks lose power, hopefully it will be short-lived with the more wintry temps coming on the heels of the system. Good AFD from Box this morning. 23.5/17 Isn't Pete only like 300ft higher than you, but yet south of you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Good AFD except the cold is not in the valleys when it comes to SNE ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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