TugHillMatt Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 On 11/23/2014 at 2:28 AM, Gilbertfly said: Another kick arse week on the way for the belters....good luck, enjoy, and safe travels for ya'll. GRR going to add to an already prolific snow total....awesome sauce gravy for your turkey... Haha...yeah, looks like another good week! Hopefully the wind won't blow all the snow over my location. It looks like much of the Upper Midwest will get some wrap-around snows from the low pressure before the LES kicks in too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 So, the Governor of NY is saying the Buffalo NWS did not do a very good job with forecasting the LES for the Buffalo area...at least with the first band of snow. I thought they did a great job. Why are we always blaming others for weather events? http://www.mychamplainvalley.com/story/d/story/cuomo-critical-of-forecast-as-w-ny-braces-for-floo/32128/Wm0twa0ZVkOj1mcTUl2FSQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 On 11/23/2014 at 7:05 PM, blackrock said: So, the Governor of NY is saying the Buffalo NWS did not do a very good job with forecasting the LES for the Buffalo area...at least with the first band of snow. I thought they did a great job. Why are we always blaming others for weather events? http://www.mychamplainvalley.com/story/d/story/cuomo-critical-of-forecast-as-w-ny-braces-for-floo/32128/Wm0twa0ZVkOj1mcTUl2FSQ That's your average joe for you!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 On 11/23/2014 at 7:05 PM, blackrock said: So, the Governor of NY is saying the Buffalo NWS did not do a very good job with forecasting the LES for the Buffalo area...at least with the first band of snow. I thought they did a great job. Why are we always blaming others for weather events? http://www.mychamplainvalley.com/story/d/story/cuomo-critical-of-forecast-as-w-ny-braces-for-floo/32128/Wm0twa0ZVkOj1mcTUl2FSQ What a joke... He's throwing them under a bus to make it look like he's a real "take no bullsh-t kind of governor". Reminds me of Hurricane Katrina and all the Monday morning QBing that when on afterward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 On 11/23/2014 at 7:15 PM, Jonger1150 said: What a joke... He's throwing them under a bus to make it look like he's a real "take no bullsh-t kind of governor". Reminds me of Hurricane Katrina and all the Monday morning QBing that when on afterward. At least the article acknowledges that the NWS was predicting 3-5 inch per hour rates, etc. Gotta find a scapegoat somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 You are all so right. The general public doesn't understand all the conditions that must be in place for this to happen. Perhaps the politicians should be required to take a meteorology class or two? It'll be interesting to see if this "special state weather program" will be "any better". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbertfly Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 "New york's own high tech weather detection network".....lol....good luck with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 On 11/23/2014 at 7:21 PM, Gilbertfly said: "New york's own high tech weather detection network".....lol....good luck with that It will be run by Hillary Clinton on one end, and Martha Stewart on the other end............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 On 11/23/2014 at 7:21 PM, Gilbertfly said: "New york's own high tech weather detection network".....lol....good luck with that This was a real LOL. The public probably ate it up though. Probably consists of a few neckbeards peeking out the window and posting an Obs on Facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 On 11/23/2014 at 7:33 PM, Jonger1150 said: This was a real LOL. The public probably ate it up though. Probably consists of a few neckbeards peeking out the window and posting an Obs on Facebook. They'll only raise the taxes a couple more percentages for this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 On 11/23/2014 at 7:05 PM, blackrock said: So, the Governor of NY is saying the Buffalo NWS did not do a very good job with forecasting the LES for the Buffalo area...at least with the first band of snow. I thought they did a great job. Why are we always blaming others for weather events? http://www.mychamplainvalley.com/story/d/story/cuomo-critical-of-forecast-as-w-ny-braces-for-floo/32128/Wm0twa0ZVkOj1mcTUl2FSQ The guys an idiot. You can use our thread on the upstate section to disprove his every thought. This was one of the best forecasted LES events in recent memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted November 24, 2014 Author Share Posted November 24, 2014 On 11/24/2014 at 2:45 AM, BuffaloWeather said: The guys an idiot. You can use our thread on the upstate section to disprove his every thought. This was one of the best forecasted LES events in recent memory. Haha. For anybody who has a brain and knows how to look up/research forecasts, it's quite obvious he has no idea what he is talking about. I would be ticked if I was the lead forecaster at the BUF NWS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huronicane Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 On 11/23/2014 at 7:05 PM, blackrock said: So, the Governor of NY is saying the Buffalo NWS did not do a very good job with forecasting the LES for the Buffalo area...at least with the first band of snow. I thought they did a great job. Why are we always blaming others for weather events? http://www.mychamplainvalley.com/story/d/story/cuomo-critical-of-forecast-as-w-ny-braces-for-floo/32128/Wm0twa0ZVkOj1mcTUl2FSQ http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/44955-governor-cuomo-vs-nws-buffalo/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_4184 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I thought the NWS in Buffalo did an excellent job, actually most NWS's did a great job including my office APX (Gaylord). Buffalo had very detailed forecasts and informative AFD's, A+. This is just a political game for the local government/media, obviously this even twas huge, and Buffalo areas were not prepared enough even though they had plenty of notice. So they are looking for the easiest scapegoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 BUF did an excellent job of forecasting the event. They mentioned in their discos several days in advance of the possibility of measuring snow in feet. Jon Hitchcock at BUF knows his stuff about LES. I know him from his days at IWX. If I were the lead forecaster, I'd tell Cuomo to bite me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 How much snow has survived in the hardest hit areas south of Buffalo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 On 11/24/2014 at 12:22 PM, Trent said: How much snow has survived in the hardest hit areas south of Buffalo? Seems like I read a post from buffaloweather yesterday that he had 18" left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted November 27, 2014 Author Share Posted November 27, 2014 Might be a Mesolow in West MIchigan? Picked up 3 inches of snow this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuanis Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 On 11/27/2014 at 3:22 PM, blackrock said: Might be a Mesolow in West MIchigan? Picked up 3 inches of snow this morning. About 3 or so new inches here in Norton Shores as well. Sure looked like a mesolow on radar and really dumped nicely for a period around 8 AM. Still snowing lightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 On 11/24/2014 at 12:22 PM, Trent said: How much snow has survived in the hardest hit areas south of Buffalo? not much. A second cousin of mine lives in Hamburg, NY and she said theres hardly any snow left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelakeroy Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 What a wonderful day here today on the west side of the state. It has snowed solidly all day with around 10" of LES snow. Large quarter+ sized flakes. We have been sledding with lots of fun outside. A wonderful White Thanksgiving Still lightly snowing too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Congrats Roy. Nice way to spend the holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 On 11/24/2014 at 12:22 PM, Trent said: How much snow has survived in the hardest hit areas south of Buffalo? The closest Cocarahs stations this morning with their snow depth. NY-ER-39- 8 inches NY-ER-96- 9 inches Here in Hamburg it ranges from 4-8 inches depending on spot and location in Hamburg. Got a fresh couple this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Here is the NWS event write-up for Round 1 of the LES last week. Definitely worth the read. Round 2 will be coming soon. http://www.weather.gov/buf/lake1415_stormb.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Does anyone know what this little feature is? Meso-Low/Lake Ontario enhancement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 On 11/28/2014 at 2:31 AM, BuffaloWeather said: Does anyone know what this little feature is? Meso-Low/Lake Ontario enhancement? A large meso-low moved SE off of Lake Huron early to mid afternoon, so I wonder if what was left of it interacted with Lakes Erie and Ontario to dump that snow on Buffalo. There were other meso-lows on Lakes Michigan and Huron over the last day or so, and even off of Lake Erie there were a couple of small meso-lows in that developed as a surface trough pushed by, so whatever happened over the last couple of days (probably big temp differentials from air to water and light winds) certainly supported meso-lows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 On 11/28/2014 at 5:26 AM, OHweather said: A large meso-low moved SE off of Lake Huron early to mid afternoon, so I wonder if what was left of it interacted with Lakes Erie and Ontario to dump that snow on Buffalo. There were other meso-lows on Lakes Michigan and Huron over the last day or so, and even off of Lake Erie there were a couple of small meso-lows in that developed as a surface trough pushed by, so whatever happened over the last couple of days (probably big temp differentials from air to water and light winds) certainly supported meso-lows. Thanks. I thought it looked like one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelakeroy Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 On 11/28/2014 at 1:10 AM, IWXwx said: Congrats Roy. Nice way to spend the holiday. Thanks! I am lucky to have family on the who gets a lot of Lake MI LES. It's wonderful outside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Bump. Lots going on around the Lakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 should start building some more depth in the lake belts in this pattern. Lower pen is really behind by last years standards. UP, depth wise, probably really close to average. the belts east of Munising have been really cashing in, with a few 40+" starting to show up. 32-36" imby, but its a solid snowpack not very susceptible to a thaw like the snows being laid down state will be next week. Guess we'll see how the warm up goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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