eyewall Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 BTV is late with the short term. My guess is they are deciding how to handle this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Are you sure? There is definitely light rain falling here. You can see it hitting the puddles. Yeah raining where I am in BTV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 Yeah raining where I am in BTV. I don't envy the short term desk right now...the forecast package usually is out by now but I bet someone is pulling their hair out haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I don't envy the short term desk right now...the forecast package usually is out by now but I bet someone is pulling their hair out haha. Yeah letting people down on snow amounts is always brutal. They will probably get a few fun phone calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adk Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I don't envy the short term desk right now...the forecast package usually is out by now but I bet someone is pulling their hair out haha. Poor guys. No matter what they write there is a 50% chance it is wrong. This is an impossible storm to nail for most of their CWA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hvysnow79 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 28F with a sleet/snow mix, predominately sleet at this point, but it does flop back and forth. 1.1" new so far, with a depth of 6.5". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 Patrol reports around 2" at the summit at 4pm...makes sense based on what I have down low. Jay out to the early lead with 2-3" as of 2:30pm. Somehow they can be furthest from the precip shield and still do best . They'll have 15" by morning if they already had 3" at 2:30pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ono Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Observations past hour: Burlington- snow/sleet. Winooski- straight rain 38F. I-89 flipped back to sleet/snow down to 35F. Snow at Richmond exit. 34F. Sleet and possibly straight rain in Bolton Flats. Roads start to show a bit more slush. Back to thick flakes and sleet heading up in elevation. Roads went to hell. Waterbury roads were covered and very slick. Ambulance passed us, follwed by flares and a flipped car right past Tanglewoods at the narrow bridge. Hope everyone is ok there. Heading up the Hill 31 F. Home 33F. Up the hill, slick and sleet/snow with mostly sleet now. edit: 1.8" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 Wow, BTV going with it still...6-10" tonight? Tonight...Snow until midnight...then snow or sleet after midnight. Additional snow and sleet accumulation of 6 to 10 inches. Lows in the upper 20s. North winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Wow, BTV going with it still...6-10" tonight? Tonight...Snow until midnight...then snow or sleet after midnight. Additional snow and sleet accumulation of 6 to 10 inches. Lows in the upper 20s. North winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent. It looks like they may ride out the warning then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adk Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 It looks like they may ride out the warning then. Maybe their perspective is there as good a chance that it dumps as it rains, so stick with your call and at least people stay "on guard"...and by people I mean Vtrans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Event totals: 2.2” Snow/0.26" L.E. I recently made the trip from Burlington to Waterbury, so I can pass along some observations with respect to this current system. As I mentioned in a couple of posts today, where I was at UVM was one of the higher points on campus at around 400', and I never really saw anything but snow in terms of precipitation. Accumulations were probably about an inch as of 3:00 P.M. However, when I left campus and dropped down to I-89 around 300', in terms of precipitation there was notable mixing with, and even changing to rain. It seemed like that little extra bit of elevation on campus was helping, because you could see that accumulations down there on the interstate were nowhere near what they were up on campus, and they were bordering on just a slushy coating. The precipitation fluctuated between rain and snow at a temperature of ~35 F until I approached Williston, and then it flipped back to a steady wet snow. Farther to the east in Richmond, the precipitation was all snow, but the intensity was notably lighter than what I'd encountered in the Champlain Valley, which was a pretty steady moderate. The precipitation observed as I traveled up the Winooski Valley was mostly snow, with the temperature hovering around 34 F, but when I hit Bolton Flats it actually started to mix with rain again. However, when I made that final leg of the trip up the pass along I-89, the temperature dropped to freezing, and the precipitation changed heartily over to all snow. You could see the difference just that couple hundred feet made, as all the trees were caked with snow and the road had an inch or two of snow on it. At the house I found 1.6" on the snowboard, and since the snow was getting a bit sleety and seemed to be changing, I decided to clear the board and get a liquid analysis. Details from the 4:00 P.M. Waterbury observations: New Snow: 1.6 inches New Liquid: 0.23 inches Snow/Water Ratio: 7.0 Snow Density: 14.4% H2O Temperature: 31.6 F Sky: Snow (2-5 mm flakes) Snow at the stake: 6.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 yes they are riding it out after all. It just isn't going to happen here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Patrol reports around 2" at the summit at 4pm...makes sense based on what I have down low. Jay out to the early lead with 2-3" as of 2:30pm. Somehow they can be furthest from the precip shield and still do best . They'll have 15" by morning if they already had 3" at 2:30pm. LOL-Jay. they already have tomorrows snow report ready to roll. no reason to get up early. judging from the webcam it is snowing at the SB base. If there has been any non crystalline precipitation there, it wasn't enough to dislodge the snow from the metal roofs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I guess we are going to get 4-8 phantom inches tonight. I am thinking we get all of our snow on the back end with the upslope if the Froude drops low enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ono Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Raining now. Should be interesting to see the 7-11" point and click for tonight materialize. Super marginal, wondering how the low-mid level temps pan out tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 And back to sloppy flakes after what seemed like just plain rain. This is a special event, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 And back to sloppy flakes after what seemed like just plain rain. This is a special event, haha. Special is one word for it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ono Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Drenching rain here at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hvysnow79 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Wow at 5 we switched back to all snow and it dumped, not sure if this pic does justice, but huge snowball size flakes!! Picked up 2" in 30 minutes!!! Temp is up to 30F and we are still dumping. 3.0" total for storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ono Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Buddy in Fairlee, VT j (Upper CT River valley) just called to report the oddball snow there- 1.5" flakes/clumps falling with 3"+ on the deck there. He wanted to know what was happening up here- which is epic rain. It's like it's dumping at 2000' here, and melting right overhead. Somebody is getting smoked tonight for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 Wow at 5 we switched back to all snow and it dumped, not sure if this pic does justice, but huge snowball size flakes!! Picked up 2" in 30 minutes!!! Temp is up to 30F and we are still dumping. 3.0" total for storm. Wow nice. That band may be switching it over. Pretty much a white rain right here now...there are some crystals and frozen chunks but for all intents and purposes its the same end result as rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 &&.NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM WEDNESDAY MORNING/...AS OF 500 PM EST TUESDAY...EXPECTING SOME AREAS OF HEAVY SNOWTHROUGH MIDNIGHT OR JUST AFTER MIDNIGHT...WITH PRECIPITATIONBECOMING LIGHTER AFTER MIDNIGHT AS A MID LEVEL DRY SLOT WORKSNORTH ACROSS EASTERN VERMONT AND NEW HAMPSHIRE. WARMER AIR HASNOSED UP THROUGH WESTERN VERMONT WITH A MIX OF RAIN AND SNOW ATTIMES. EXPECTING ANY RAIN TO CHANGE TO SNOW IN THE CHAMPLAINVALLEY AS COLDER AIR WORKS ON NORTHERLY WINDS DOWN THE CHAMPLAINVALLEY. SNOW AMOUNTS ARE TRICKY FOR THE CHAMPLAIN VALLEY AND WILLBE DEPENDENT ON HOW LONG RAIN OR A RAIN AND SNOW MIX WILL PERSISTTONIGHT. STILL EXPECTING A HEAVY SNOWFALL ACROSS THE ADIRONDACKSAND NORTH CENTRAL AND NORTHEAST VERMONT...ESPECIALLY OVER THEHIGHER TERRAIN. TEMPERATURES WILL NOT FALL MUCH OVERNIGHT GIVENCLOUD COVER AND WINDS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Snowing hard here in Peacham. 2.5" new. The storm feels like an April storm. It was a sn/rn mix in St. J which turned to all snow with the gain in elevation heading W on Route 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Had a brief bout of sleet earlier but it has been all snow since about 4:45. Over 3" on the deck here at home and still coming down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM WEDNESDAY MORNING/... AS OF 500 PM EST TUESDAY...EXPECTING SOME AREAS OF HEAVY SNOW THROUGH MIDNIGHT OR JUST AFTER MIDNIGHT...WITH PRECIPITATION BECOMING LIGHTER AFTER MIDNIGHT AS A MID LEVEL DRY SLOT WORKS NORTH ACROSS EASTERN VERMONT AND NEW HAMPSHIRE. WARMER AIR HAS NOSED UP THROUGH WESTERN VERMONT WITH A MIX OF RAIN AND SNOW AT TIMES. EXPECTING ANY RAIN TO CHANGE TO SNOW IN THE CHAMPLAIN VALLEY AS COLDER AIR WORKS ON NORTHERLY WINDS DOWN THE CHAMPLAIN VALLEY. SNOW AMOUNTS ARE TRICKY FOR THE CHAMPLAIN VALLEY AND WILL BE DEPENDENT ON HOW LONG RAIN OR A RAIN AND SNOW MIX WILL PERSIST TONIGHT. STILL EXPECTING A HEAVY SNOWFALL ACROSS THE ADIRONDACKS AND NORTH CENTRAL AND NORTHEAST VERMONT...ESPECIALLY OVER THE HIGHER TERRAIN. TEMPERATURES WILL NOT FALL MUCH OVERNIGHT GIVEN CLOUD COVER AND WINDS. Its a real reach at this point but we shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 Had a brief bout of sleet earlier but it has been all snow since about 4:45. Over 3" on the deck here at home and still coming down. Damn nice! Definitely not all snow up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 My thinking is there is a solid chance we will see bare ground here until the Thursday phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 Buddy of mine just texted that it's nuking at exit 5 on I-89....that it went from rain/sleet to like 3"/hr snows with 50ft visibility in like a matter of a couple miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Surprisingly I am not doing too bad morale wise with this. I knew a bust had to come eventually and here it is. I also knew this one had a high potential to do just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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