dan123 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 We're one of the only areas that have had a decent 6-10" snowfall. And last winter was ok, but compared to the record breaking nonsense that was happening to our S & W, I don't look back on it so glowingly. I'm getting a little antsy, but assuming we get a couple of inches with the Saturday system and the follow up clipper gives us some more, we're on track to have a decent winter. And that'll make it 3 in a row after abysmal clunkers like 2009-10 and 2011-12. That 6-10'' snowfall although was nice, was a total flook. How many systems spin back like that and produce 8-9'' of snow? If it weren't for that storm this winter would really been off to a bad start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 That 6-10'' snowfall although was nice, was a total flook. How many systems spin back like that and produce 8-9'' of snow? If it weren't for that storm this winter would really been off to a bad start Does that make it count any less? We get rooked by being in storm screwholes all the time...does that make the sucky winters that those screwholes in the aggregate create any less sucky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof96 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 We're one of the only areas that have had a decent 6-10" snowfall. And last winter was ok, but compared to the record breaking nonsense that was happening to our S & W, I don't look back on it so glowingly. I'm getting a little antsy, but assuming we get a couple of inches with the Saturday system and the follow up clipper gives us some more, we're on track to have a decent winter. And that'll make it 3 in a row after abysmal clunkers like 2009-10 and 2011-12. This^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan123 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Does that make it count any less? We get rooked by being in storm screwholes all the time...does that make the sucky winters that those screwholes in the aggregate create any less sucky? I just want a snowstorm that comes from the SW. This ****ing SE ridge is even too strong for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 We're one of the only areas that have had a decent 6-10" snowfall. And last winter was ok, but compared to the record breaking nonsense that was happening to our S & W, I don't look back on it so glowingly. Nonsense? That was like the best winter of my adulthood. Clearly not nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sokolow Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 SoCal Southern California has more snow this month then most of us. image.jpg "congratulations, Bo" The pictures out of SoCal are amazing, and the altitudes & accumulation are too -- Saddleback mountains viewed from Laguna Niguel: Couple more. Love it when snow gets down to the desert. And an obligatory Jtree pic All off of socal NWS, NPS, and local media twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Nonsense? That was like the best winter of my adulthood. Clearly not nonsense. it was the best winter Detroit will ever see. Little things that dont even show in the statistics (which on their own make it Detroit's severest winter recorded as is). It looked like the snowbelt of the UP mid-winter, its not ever getting its crown taken. But I think ssc was talking strictly Toronto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 it was the best winter Detroit will ever see. Little things that dont even show in the statistics (which on their own make it Detroit's severest winter recorded as is). It looked like the snowbelt of the UP mid-winter, its not ever getting its crown taken. But I think ssc was talking strictly Toronto lol, I know what he was talking about. I was just kidding him a little. But, I'll be forever protective of winter 2013-14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Nice pics sokolow. I like the desert snow too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 High temperature only cracking 20F today and we'll be getting another piss tank on the weekend. How amusing! This winter is slowly losing its satisfaction with me. Seems like forever since we got that surprise snowstorm in Toronto 2-3 weeks ago. Whats even more disappointing is another cold outbreak starting next week. Cold-rain-cold is not my favourite recipe. Happy New years everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I'm preparing for my third "33 and rain" event of the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Now that the weekend storm is falling apart, I can't wait to see how the 1/5/14 to 1/6/14 clipper fails also... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KokomoWX Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I'm preparing for my third "33 and rain" event of the winter. It's like the cold and precipitation can stand to be in the same room together. When one comes in, the other makes a prompt exit. I'm not sure I can do a couple more months of this. I might need a warm vacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I'm preparing for my third "43 and rain" event of the winter. Fyp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 BTW, the entire run of the EURO was pure crap. 850mb temps below -20*C behind the weekend storm for nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 BTW, the entire run of the EURO was pure crap. 850mb temps below -20*C behind the weekend storm for nothing... pattern blows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Fyp Well, it might be for a majority of the event, but it should begin as some zr before continuing to warm through the afternoon. Still raw and nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-10fWHdpmks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Now that the weekend storm is falling apart, I can't wait to see how the 1/5/14 to 1/6/14 clipper fails also... Its still so young in the season, but this is starting to behave like some of the winters back in the 1940s and 1960s where the precip was normal-ish, the temps normal if not cold, but below normal snow because they could not sync up with each other. I have never personally experienced this though, as weve obviously been on an orgasmic snow blitz this century and the rare instances we dont get above normal snow its because we are very mild. I will behave until Wednesday. The GEM and EURO have been up and down with it, but I have NEVER seen such outstanding agreement as I have seen with the clipper on the GFS and its ensembles for days, since its been like 8-9 days out and we are now entering the 5-day out period. The placement obviously oscillates run to run and ensemble to ensemble, but they show a consistent widespread band of snow, easily the most widespread snow event of the season for the midwest/lakes, and a nice, cold snow too (temps in the single digits and teens). I like where we sit too, not only because traditionally we are in a very good spot for clippers, but because we seem to have plenty of buffer room depending on which track the clipper takes (whether we are on the northern side, the southern side, or the bullseye, we should get a blanket of snow). If this ends up failing I will go on a rant like I have not since Jan 1, 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Nonsense? That was like the best winter of my adulthood. Clearly not nonsense. Nonsense is in the eye in the beholder I guess. HNY Tim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Its still so young in the season, but this is starting to behave like some of the winters back in the 1940s and 1960s where the precip was normal-ish, the temps normal if not cold, but below normal snow because they could not sync up with each other. I have never personally experienced this though, as weve obviously been on an orgasmic snow blitz this century and the rare instances we dont get above normal snow its because we are very mild. I will behave until Wednesday. The GEM and EURO have been up and down with it, but I have NEVER seen such outstanding agreement as I have seen with the clipper on the GFS and its ensembles for days, since its been like 8-9 days out and we are now entering the 5-day out period. The placement obviously oscillates run to run and ensemble to ensemble, but they show a consistent widespread band of snow, easily the most widespread snow event of the season for the midwest/lakes, and a nice, cold snow too (temps in the single digits and teens). I like where we sit too, not only because traditionally we are in a very good spot for clippers, but because we seem to have plenty of buffer room depending on which track the clipper takes (whether we are on the northern side, the southern side, or the bullseye, we should get a blanket of snow). If this ends up failing I will go on a rant like I have not since Jan 1, 2008. I will say that only the GFS has that 1/5/14 to 1/6/14 clipper (as in anything beyond a whiff to the SW or a strip of just light snow) at this point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I will say that only the GFS has that 1/5/14 to 1/6/14 clipper (as in anything beyond a whiff to the SW or a strip of just light snow) at this point... The GEM has been all over with it, no consistency, and the same with its ensembles. Some of them have a killer clipper, others have nothing. The Euro is the one that only has a strip of light snow to my knowledge, but I never see precip maps just qpf output so I cant say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelakeroy Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share Posted January 1, 2015 Its still so young in the season, but this is starting to behave like some of the winters back in the 1940s and 1960s where the precip was normal-ish, the temps normal if not cold, but below normal snow because they could not sync up with each other. I have never personally experienced this though, as weve obviously been on an orgasmic snow blitz this century and the rare instances we dont get above normal snow its because we are very mild. I will behave until Wednesday. The GEM and EURO have been up and down with it, but I have NEVER seen such outstanding agreement as I have seen with the clipper on the GFS and its ensembles for days, since its been like 8-9 days out and we are now entering the 5-day out period. The placement obviously oscillates run to run and ensemble to ensemble, but they show a consistent widespread band of snow, easily the most widespread snow event of the season for the midwest/lakes, and a nice, cold snow too (temps in the single digits and teens). I like where we sit too, not only because traditionally we are in a very good spot for clippers, but because we seem to have plenty of buffer room depending on which track the clipper takes (whether we are on the northern side, the southern side, or the bullseye, we should get a blanket of snow). If this ends up failing I will go on a rant like I have not since Jan 1, 2008. I guess I am really ready to rant about how this winter is going. I noticed a fairly consistent pattern that seems to have started back around mid-September (post #35 in this thread). Now that is more of an outline and not exact but from what I have seen we seem to be following that general pattern. Note: it does not mean we will not get snow as this is very general trend not an exact track comment. So any one of the storms very well hit us and I hope/believe we have some fun down this winter road. Plus at any time the pattern could finally change. My expectation for this winter (following the 13-14 winter) is that it would pretty much feel like 82-83ish (not from a pattern perspective but from a misery perspective ... after 81-82 the winter of 82-83 was just miserable). I am still believe it will not end nearly as miserable as 82-83 was but December kept it on the same playing field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I guess I am really ready to rant about how this winter is going. I noticed a fairly consistent pattern that seems to have started back around mid-September (post #35 in this thread). Now that is more of an outline and not exact but from what I have seen we seem to be following that general pattern. Note: it does not mean we will not get snow as this is very general trend not an exact track comment. So any one of the storms very well hit us and I hope/believe we have some fun down this winter road. Plus at any time the pattern could finally change. My expectation for this winter (following the 13-14 winter) is that it would pretty much feel like 82-83ish (not from a pattern perspective but from a misery perspective ... after 81-82 the winter of 82-83 was just miserable). I am still believe it will not end nearly as miserable as 82-83 was but December kept it on the same playing field. Funny thing about post #35 is that everyone loses in that type of pattern (unless they're in MN/Northern Wisconsin/Northern Michigan). The folks who want the big/intense snowstorms don't get their fix, and the folks who simply want snowflakes in the air and snow on the ground don't get their fix either... As I stated earlier, this winter so far has been an equal opportunity failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I guess I am really ready to rant about how this winter is going. I noticed a fairly consistent pattern that seems to have started back around mid-September (post #35 in this thread). Now that is more of an outline and not exact but from what I have seen we seem to be following that general pattern. Note: it does not mean we will not get snow as this is very general trend not an exact track comment. So any one of the storms very well hit us and I hope/believe we have some fun down this winter road. Plus at any time the pattern could finally change. My expectation for this winter (following the 13-14 winter) is that it would pretty much feel like 82-83ish (not from a pattern perspective but from a misery perspective ... after 81-82 the winter of 82-83 was just miserable). I am still believe it will not end nearly as miserable as 82-83 was but December kept it on the same playing field. I too was preparing for a terrible winter since last spring. I have looked at enough stats to know thats how it tends to work out, not to mention the super nino calls. Then I took the bait in Fall when EVERYONE went with another cold/brutal winter, but should have stuck with my instinct. Im sure it wont be 1982-83 or 1881-82 bad (clearly from a temp perspective thats already NOT happening). November was good and December a nightmare, so as I said the other day, not at ALL surprised where we are on Jan 1st, just surprised how we got here. Tons of winter left so lets see how everything plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelakeroy Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share Posted January 1, 2015 Funny thing about post #35 is that everyone loses in that type of pattern (unless they're in MN/Northern Wisconsin/Northern Michigan). The folks who want the big/intense snowstorms don't get their fix, and the folks who simply want snowflakes in the air and snow on the ground don't get their fix either... As I stated earlier, this winter so far has been an equal opportunity failure. One thought is now that the SE ridge seems to be a bit strong and NAO mainly going positive again there is hope for us. But a full phasing storm has been like pulling teeth!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Just awful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Great pics Sokolow! Love that last one with the Joshua Tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I'm preparing for my third "33 and rain" event of the winter. 50˚+ for both of us is doable. Open the windows and let out the funk for a little bit. Nonsense is in the eye in the beholder I guess. HNY Tim. You too Mike. I hope 2015 is a great one for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 50˚+ for both of us is doable. Open the windows and let out the funk for a little bit. You too Mike. I hope 2015 is a great one for you. Winter arrives big time next week. I'm kinda optimistic about the clipper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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