buckeye Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Sickening! who would have ever guessed 60+ for a xmas eve high 2 weeks ago.....we were suppose to be shivering in the vestibule of the pattern change looking at endless oncoming snow and cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 excellent point. There is no one southeast of DC to complain about warm tongues...unless you live on the beach. As far as the ongoing debate about eastcoast vs midwest and winter weather. Compared to DC I like where we sit much better here in CMH. Yes, DC can get the 24+" blockbusters, but usually when they do, we cash in a bit as well. Very unusual for DC to get a historic snow without us getting something from it as well. The reverse never works. (blizzard of '96 we picked up 12".... PD02 we picked up 15"....'09-'10 snowapocalysis we picked up close to 10"). Once you get north of philly, then I think the debate becomes more muddy. I could easily favor Boston winters over CMH winters. And that would make logically sense, as Boston is a decent bit north of Columbus in latitude. However, I would start to say I favor Boston winters over ours as I'm a 'Go Big or Go Home' type of guy (like Alek) in terms of preference. Also, less cold, dry boring periods in Boston than here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Another suicide run. Be afraid. Be very afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pondo1000 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 who would have ever guessed 60+ for a xmas eve high 2 weeks ago.....we were suppose to be shivering in the vestibule of the pattern change looking at endless oncoming snow and cold. I know, right?! Then, taking a peak at the 12z GFS, we go to cold, dry and complete suppression. So plenty of time for things to trend north. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbcmh81 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Don Sutherland bringing up 1991-92 in the main forum. He says he's not ready to give up on winter, but damn that's a bad sign. Almost no one expected this kind of thing to happen this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 And that would make logically sense, as Boston is a decent bit north of Columbus in latitude. However, I would start to say I favor Boston winters over ours as I'm a 'Go Big or Go Home' type of guy (like Alek) in terms of preference. Also, less cold, dry boring periods in Boston than here. Any weather above freezing is boring during winter. Boston can't keep snow on the ground very long, I'd be much happier in the mountains on the west side of the state. The Berkshire mountains are nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Any weather above freezing is boring during winter. Boston can't keep snow on the ground very long, I'd be much happier in the mountains on the west side of the state. The Berkshire mountains are nice. another good point. If you're a snow cover duration whore, the i-95 blows in that category....DC to Boston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Don Sutherland bringing up 1991-92 in the main forum. He says he's not ready to give up on winter, but damn that's a bad sign. Almost no one expected this kind of thing to happen this year. Yep, an eloquent but devastating read...lol. I call it construction of the emergency exit. Models seem to agree that we have a decent shot of cold between xmas and new years with a couple of opportunities. At around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtrackertf Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 blizzard watch up for the summits in hawaii Dang... ...BLIZZARD WARNING IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 PM HST WEDNESDAY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN HONOLULU HAS ISSUED A BLIZZARD WARNING...WHICH IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 PM HST WEDNESDAY. THE BLIZZARD WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT. * LOCATIONS...MAUNA KEA AND MAUNA LOA ABOVE 11500 FEET. * HAZARD TYPES...VERY STRONG WINDS AND BITTERLY COLD WIND CHILLS. HEAVY SNOW...BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW...AND LIGHTNING STRIKES. * ACCUMULATIONS...UP TO 12 INCHES THROUGH WEDNESDAY...WITH HIGHER DRIFTS. * TIMING...THROUGH WEDNESDAY. * IMPACTS...EXTREMELY HAZARDOUS AND POTENTIALLY LIFE-THREATENING CONDITIONS FOR ANYONE ATTEMPTING TO DRIVE OR HIKE TO THE SUMMITS. * WINDS...SOUTH INCREASING TO 45 TO 65 MPH WITH GUSTS OVER 90 MPH. * TEMPERATURES...UPPER 20S TO LOWER 30S. * VISIBILITIES...BELOW ONE QUARTER MILE IN HEAVY SNOW SHOWERS. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... A BLIZZARD WARNING MEANS SEVERE WINTER WEATHER CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. FALLING AND BLOWING SNOW WITH STRONG WINDS AND POOR VISIBILITIES ARE LIKELY. THIS WILL LEAD TO WHITEOUT CONDITIONS...MAKING TRAVEL EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. DO NOT TRAVEL. IF YOU MUST TRAVEL...HAVE A WINTER SURVIVAL KIT WITH YOU. IF YOU GET STRANDED...STAY WITH YOUR VEHICLE. && Meanwhile we might touch 60 on Christmas Eve here. Saddening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 What a scary write up by Don. Crappy winters happen and its good to just get them out of the way. As I type this Im looking at almost 50 degrees on my car dash and the lawns are oddly green for this time of year. Hopefully we salvage at least part of the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtrackertf Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 What a scary write up by Don. Crappy winters happen and its good to just get them out of the way. As I type this Im looking at almost 50 degrees on my car dash and the lawns are oddly green for this time of year. Hopefully we salvage at least part of the winter. 52 on mine. It doesn't even feel cold, just dank and gross. Worst weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFF Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I open the fridge in the kitchen to a blinding light at 3pm... Outside the grey and sour look in the sky is depressing. The Great winter of darkness 2014!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sokolow Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Had some lovely sun this AM but its fast fading to gloom as we speak. Depressing. ... broke up enough for a decent sunset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 The >6" snowstorm drought for this area will continue into 2015. Might as well just make it another 6 weeks so we can eclipse the 4 year mark. December will be almost a complete shutout. We may get a few tenths tomorrow though if all goes well. Hell, I'm actually ready for spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Might as well just make it another 6 weeks so we can eclipse the 4 year mark. December will be almost a complete shutout. We may get a few tenths tomorrow though if all goes well. Hell, I'm actually ready for spring. your drought is insane. It's not like you're in a particularly poor spot... just luck of the draw I guess. I'll be rooting for you from here out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 your drought is insane. It's not like you're in a particularly poor spot... just luck of the draw I guess. I'll be rooting for you from here out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Alek's going to have to shovel the walk to his apartment building... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 LAF went from Feb 2008 to Dec 2013 without a pure 6"+ snowfall. Granted we suck at winter usually, but droughts happen. You guys will get yours eventually, and then you'll probably rip off a few in a relatively short span. I'm with Bo though, rooting for you guys to get one soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 What a scary write up by Don. Crappy winters happen and its good to just get them out of the way. As I type this Im looking at almost 50 degrees on my car dash and the lawns are oddly green for this time of year. Hopefully we salvage at least part of the winter. After a wintry November, we have seen 3-4 weeks of pure hell. But that is such a small sample size in the grand scheme of an entire winter, theres simply no way to assume this will be one. You are totally correct that crappers happen (& what better karma time to get one than following a historic winter like last). But its Dec 23rd...theres no way to tell if it will or will not happen. Dons post wasnt really that scary for us. Not only because he adamantly said he still sees a good Jan/Feb or that he wasnt necessarily calling for a 1991-92 redux but because 1991-92 was not a terrible winter here like it was out east..it was mild, but with several good snowstorms, actually finishing the season with a normal (actually SLIGHTLY above normal) snowfall of 43.5" at DTW. It included a snowstorm (Jan 14th) that is about as good a storm as you can get here (tremendous snowfall rates, thunder & lightning). Actually, that winter is what several of our SE MI posters in some of our recent brutal winters have claimed that would be their dream winter. Several big snowstorms/periods of winter, but several nice periods in between, not sustained cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 After a wintry November, we have seen 3-4 weeks of pure hell. But that is such a small sample size in the grand scheme of an entire winter, theres simply no way to assume this will be one. You are totally correct that crappers happen (& what better karma time to get one than following a historic winter like last). But its Dec 23rd...theres no way to tell if it will or will not happen. Dons post wasnt really that scary for us. Not only because he adamantly said he still sees a good Jan/Feb or that he wasnt necessarily calling for a 1991-92 redux but because 1991-92 was not a terrible winter here like it was out east..it was mild, but with several good snowstorms, actually finishing the season with a normal (actually SLIGHTLY above normal) with 43.5". It included a snowstorm (Jan 14th) that is about as good a storm as you can get here (tremendous snowfall rates, thunder & lightning). Actually, that winter is what several of our SE MI posters in some of our recent brutal winters have claimed that would be their dream winter. Several big snowstorms/periods of winter, but several nice periods in between, not sustained cold. Good point. That Jan 14th storm was a low and partial triple phaser that had bombed out from above 1000mb along the Gulf Coast to 980mb over Erie, PA. A perfect big storm track for Detroit, albeit an extremely rare track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I am with the others. Normally, if a storm does not hit MBY, I do not care what happens where. In fact, there are certain instances where I may root AGAINST some place even though MBY doesnt have any stock in the particular event . But you are the one person I can say Im truly rooting for! You have gone through a drought that is pure bad luck. I mean, most of us have seen stretches like this in the past, but thats usually during our crappy winters of yesteryear. With epic winters lately, you should not be in this drought, and you have complained VERY little about it compared to what others tend to complain about. So GOOO SE MI (& cyclones backyard) is my winter wishlist for Ma Nature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Good point. That Jan 14th storm was a low and partial triple phaser that had bombed out from above 1000mb along the Gulf Coast to 980mb over Erie, PA. A perfect big storm track for Detroit, albeit an extremely rare track. Thats about the only storm I can remember here where there were several MORE inches of snow than hours of snowfall. I mean, we have seen thumpings in many of our recent winter storms, but its usually a period of thump in a long duration storm. On Jan 14, 1992, you could be walking in your backyard grass around midnight, then wake up to a blinding blizzard, and see the sun peaking out before lunchtime. And its not as if that was the only good storm of that winter (clearly it was the best though). Thats a perfect example of a how a blazing red temp departure map (see dons map) does not tell the tale to those of us in the north. We do NOT need colder than normal temps to have a snowy winter. We just need things to align perfectly, like they have time and time again the past decade (but are currently stalled in December of 2014 lol). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I am with the others. Normally, if a storm does not hit MBY, I do not care what happens where. In fact, there are certain instances where I may root AGAINST some place even though MBY doesnt have any stock in the particular event . But you are the one person I can say Im truly rooting for! You have gone through a drought that is pure bad luck. I mean, most of us have seen stretches like this in the past, but thats usually during our crappy winters of yesteryear. With epic winters lately, you should not be in this drought, and you have complained VERY little about it compared to what others tend to complain about. So GOOO SE MI (& cyclones backyard) is my winter wishlist for Ma Nature So true. I had no idea it was that bad there. Kudos, Iowa posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargers09 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Lmao @ this storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Lmao @ this storm Another reason I like Lake Effect Snow. The models don't pick up on it well, so you don't sit at your computer for a week checking each model run. It either comes or it doesn't. Occasional checking of the radar the day of... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 It is a bit annoying that the pumpkins and corn stalks were blanketed in snow and the Christmas decorations are shrouded in rain and fog. Hopefully the cold coming produces some snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Yep, showing some love for Indiana. Hope it happens. 4km nam indiana.png I fully expected to miss NW, but I swear to Yadier Molina the One True God, if I miss 3" by 20 miles, I will burn all my presents. ~That Tapatalk thing~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 2014 joining the ranks of 01, 06 and 09 as years without a white Christmas. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 2014 joining the ranks of 01, 06 and 09 as years without a white Christmas. :-( Did you know in the1990's we only had ONE year that had a white xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Weather is a frustrating hobby to enjoy. But the last minute, 100 mile jog to take one out of a potential snow, on Christmas Eve no less, is a particularly hard kick in the balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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