michsnowfreak Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 The last week of December will probably keep Dec 2014 out of the bottom 10 least snowiest Decembers for Detroit. More importantly...Detroit needs 0.4" to tie, 0.5" to take over for 2014 to be snowiest calendar year on record. That record belongs to 2008 with 82.6"...so far 2014 has had 82.2". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 More importantly...Detroit needs 0.4" to tie, 0.5" to take over for 2014 to be snowiest calendar year on record. That record belongs to 2008 with 82.6"...so far 2014 has had 82.2". I'm betting that will be broken, even if we don't get any synoptic action. All that's needed is a modest LES event, which may happen either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Said in the same tone as a Jeff Foxworthy bit.... "You know you are in a bad pattern when +0C 850s are swirling around the Hudson Bay on Dec 21st." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 *sigh* Forecast from hell.png I'm right in the middle of that clearing spot. Beautiful sunny day, 36 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huronicane Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Said in the same tone as a Jeff Foxworthy bit.... "You know you are in a bad pattern when +0C 850s are swirling around the Hudson Bay on Dec 21st." What about -0C? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Ghost of the 12-24/25-2002 snowstorm. It's banter thread worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Ghost of the 12-24/25-2002 snowstorm. It's banter thread worthy. xmas miracle.gif Op run says no. Who cares though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Op run says no. Who cares though. lol, it's fantasy range...laugh/dream a little. That's why I put it here. It'd be nice though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 What about -0C? -10C 850's over the Hudson would be a bad pattern... We have pockets of above freezing 850's swirling around the Hudson Bay on the solar minimum date. That's not cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I know it's really long range, but even the op GFS wants to make the pattern change transient. We could be looking at 2011-2012 the sequel here folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Very discouraging run on the GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I know it's really long range, but even the op GFS wants to make the pattern change transient. We could be looking at 2011-2012 the sequel here folks. After last winter many people would welcome an easy season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Rain and then suppression. Nyyce! Although you can tell at H5 the GFS only has to slow the lead southern stream s/w a bit for it to turn into a nice hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Since we're basing the rest of the winter on today's op GFS...for some stupid reason...the para GFS agrees. 1881/82 and 2011-12 redux!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 After last winter many people would welcome an easy season. Not on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I'm cautiously optimistic about the post 20th period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Not on this forum. No doubt, but the 12z did not look all that bad. We dont need arctic hammers to have a good season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbertfly Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I'm getting my holiday shopping done the next few days for a reason.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 No doubt, but the 12z did not look all that bad. We dont need arctic hammers to have a good season. The end of the run had a east moving ridge popped all the way up to Nunavut. We don't need arctic hammers, but we also don't need 50F torches every other day... straight up to the Hudson Bay. If you want mid 30's mildness down state, that's fine, but torches up to Churchill Manitoba aren't going to allow anyone to enjoy winter no matter how far they are willing to drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Jonger, your "end of winter" posts raise my blood pressure. It's like you're looking for something to say winter is going to be a dud. I guess I shouldn't have come to this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoof Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I know it's really long range, but even the op GFS wants to make the pattern change transient. We could be looking at 2011-2012 the sequel here folks. That "winter" is forbidden to talk about lol. At least I got an EF1 tornado 2 miles from my house on march 12th 2012 though lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Jonger, your "end of winter" posts raise my blood pressure. It's like you're looking for something to say winter is going to be a dud. I guess I shouldn't have come to this thread. About the only way you will not see over-the-top negativity, pessimism, and exaggeration on the weather board is if everyone has 300%+ of climo snowfall and every single event on the models pans out from hour 384 to hour 0 without run-to-run track and strength oscillations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 That "winter" is forbidden to talk about lol. At least I got an EF1 tornado 2 miles from my house on march 12th 2012 though lol. The funny thing about Tims cynical post...1881-82 makes 2011-12 look like a winter wonderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoof Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 The funny thing about Tims cynical post...1881-82 makes 2011-12 look like a winter wonderland. Lol i just looked at my storm reports I write down, I ended up with 35" snow for 2011-12 not too bad since my normal is about 45" but it just kept torching over and over again between storms lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 The funny thing about Tims cynical post...1881-82 makes 2011-12 look like a winter wonderland. That was the year with the lowest recorded snowfall in KBUFs history. 36.7 inches, followed closely the next year with a paltry 58.8 inch total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 The end of the run had a east moving ridge popped all the way up to Nunavut. We don't need arctic hammers, but we also don't need 50F torches every other day... straight up to the Hudson Bay. If you want mid 30's mildness down state, that's fine, but torches up to Churchill Manitoba aren't going to allow anyone to enjoy winter no matter how far they are willing to drive. And you trust the 300hr GFS because why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 That was the year with the lowest recorded snowfall in KBUFs history. 36.7 inches, followed closely the next year with a paltry 58.8 inch total. When do records accurately start for Buffalo? Surely they had one or two lower winters as there were a few notoriously snowless winters from the 1880s to 1950s where almost everyone in the general region did terribly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 When do records accurately start for Buffalo? Surely they had one or two lower winters as there were a few notoriously snowless winters from the 1880s to 1950s where almost everyone in the general region did terribly. NCDC has snowfall data for Buffalo going back to 1884. Here's their top 5 least snowiest seasons on record. 22.4" in 1889-90 25.0" in 1918-19 36.7" in 2011-12 39.8" in 1921-22 39.9" in 1947-48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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