DTWXRISK Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 FIRST let me start by saying that back in the third week of October I made the call that November 2014 will could end up being pretty mild . That forecast is going to be wrong. Badly wrong. But more importantly I hope that call I made for NOV 2014 did not influenced anybody into thinking that they have time for the winter preparations. And that is why I am making this post now. This first image is a large scale hemispheric view of the Jetstream or 500 MB pattern over North America as of NOV 1. I have highlighted some important features here. We can see a 5 Wave pattern which is a unstable weather pattern but one which is typical during the autumn months. Wave #2 is the Alaskan Low which is also known as +EPO. This feature continues to bring in strong weather systems across the Northeast Pacific Ocean and that in turn is weakening the warm water off the coast of Canada. Some have speculated that the +PDO (warm waters off the west coast of Canada/ US ) will continue to weaken throughout the winter months the cause the Aleutian low was not going to move. This is nonsense but I've seen a couple people talk about it. 2. Because of the Alaska Low and the enhanced northern Pacific jet stream ...we see a TROUGH in the jet stream over the West Coast which is bringing that area much needed rain fall specially over Northern California and the Pacific Northwest into British Columbia. 3 the PV - Polar Vortex . We can see the PV is still partially within the Arctic circle. 4. The -NAO .. we also see Above Normal 500mb heights or " ridging " over North Central Canada into Greenland . 5 Therefore with a -NAO combined with the PV still located over a portion of the Arctic circle the Arctic Oscillation (AO) itself is neutral. Our second image is the European hemispheric map at DAY 10 from the Sunday afternoon or 12z run of the European ensemble mean. The changes are huge and has serious implications for the second half of November. The biggest and most important change has to do with the development of above Normal Heights or RIDGING north of Alaska into the southwest portion of the Arctic circle. This is called the - EPO. This does SEVERAL important things to the overall pattern It forces the Alaska Low to retrograde or move back to the west towards the Aleutian islands. This movement shuts down the pipeline of large Low pressure area moving through the northeastern Pacific and slamming into the West Coast of British Columbia or the Pacific Northwest. And this in turn means that the upwelling and the weakening of the warm water in the northeastern Pacific ( The +PDO) is going to come to an end. The Movement of the Low/ trough from Alaska to the western Aleutian islandA/ Bering Sea allows or " teleconencts" to Ridge in the Jet stream over West coast of North America ...called +PNA). The PV on that was located on the western side of the ARCTIC circle is forced South INTO central Siberia where the snow cover is very deep and massive. That Asian PV will stay there for along time. This allows for the Arctic Oscillation to move from Neutral to NEGATIVE ... and allows for the Scandinavia Ridge to expand North towards northeast Greenland. ** IF the Scandinavia Ridge were to move North ...into Greenland/ east Arctic Circle it would have major implications over the central/ eastern CONUS 2nd half of November and beyond FINALLY ... the euro ensembles day 10 to day 15 shwo a strong Western North American ridge and a good supply of cold air into central/ eastern CONUS. NOT record shattering but clearly colder than Normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildweatherman179 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Looks like a solid cold DJF is coming for everyone east of the Rockies. Good post and good corrections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 That -EPO ridge is what brought all the cold and snow last year with a +NAO. -NAO and -EPO are both good for cold and snow, however the two of them together during midwinter could over suppress the storm track and produce a cold dry pattern. This pattern maybe best for snow in early December and March. I'm not saying it will persist that long though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 That -EPO ridge is what brought all the cold and snow last year with a +NAO. -NAO and -EPO are both good for cold and snow, however the two of them together during midwinter could over suppress the storm track and produce a cold dry pattern. This pattern maybe best for snow in early December and March. I'm not saying it will persist that long though. The problem last winter though was we could not get a really big storm, much like 93-94...I guess 93-94 did have "big storms" but they were not deep low pressure systems with bowling balls at 500mb, they were long duration or well timed overrunning events, the +NAO generally kills any chance of seeing a winter like 09-10 or 10-11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 The problem last winter though was we could not get a really big storm, much like 93-94...I guess 93-94 did have "big storms" but they were not deep low pressure systems with bowling balls at 500mb, they were long duration or well timed overrunning events, the +NAO generally kills any chance of seeing a winter like 09-10 or 10-11. I am pretty sure we beat 10-11 last year here and in most places south of Philly. Was a unique occurrence for us to get that much snow out of a +NAO winter though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTWXRISK Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 CORRECT.. The Winters 1976-77 1993-94 2013-14 were all +TNH patterns... which all featured a HUGE PV . When the PV was up by the Arctic the AO was positive. But in +TNH patterns the PV always .. ALWAYS -- drops south.... often to the Great Lakes. When the PV does so the AO goes negative This movement of the PV dropping from North to south then swinging back up into far eastern Canada ...only to " reload" meant that by DEFINITION the NAO could only be positive. Ergo Big east coast snowstorms were hard to get. Instead you get " nickeled and dimed to death " This was also the case in winter of 1993-94 and 1976-77 The problem last winter though was we could not get a really big storm, much like 93-94...I guess 93-94 did have "big storms" but they were not deep low pressure systems with bowling balls at 500mb, they were long duration or well timed overrunning events, the +NAO generally kills any chance of seeing a winter like 09-10 or 10-11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Humidity Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I am pretty sure we beat 10-11 last year here and in most places south of Philly. Was a unique occurrence for us to get that much snow out of a +NAO winter though. Yes PV suppression depression north of 40 served the MA well last March. We'll see how things unfold this winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quakertown needs snow Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Thanks for all the latest and greatest info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTWXRISK Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 FROM hpc this monday morning always good to see HPC match my analysis from Sunday ..DETERMINISTIC MODEL DETAILS CONTINUE TO FAVOR USING A BLEND OF THE3/00Z GFS/ECMWF...WHICH DEPICT A DEEPENING SURFACE WAVE OVER NEWENGLAND AND THE NORTHEAST---BENEATH A SHARP BUT ENERGETICUPPER-LEVEL TROUGH AND JET AXIS. BY DAY 5... THE TRAJECTORY OF THE FLOW ALOFT BETWEEN THE NEW ENGLAND COAST AND ATLANTIC CANADA REPRESENTS A FUNDAMENTAL SHIFT IN THE GUIDANCE AND DOWNSTREAMPATTERN---IE THE POSSIBILITY OF SETTING UP A 'BLOCKY' DOWNSTREAM RIDGE INVOF THE DAVIS STRAIT-GREENLAND. .....IN OTHER WORDS.. .A POTENTIAL EARLY-SIGNAL SHIFT IN THE NAO CONFIGURATION. AND ON/AFTER DAY 5...WE SEE THE FIRST VESTIGES OF THE POTENTIAL CHANGE OVER HUDSON BAY...WITH THE ECMWF/GFS ARRIVING AT VASTLY DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS ALOFT AND THE LOCATION OF A CLOSED UPPER-LEVEL FEATURE ALONG THE WESTERN SHORES OF HUDSON BAY. HERE...THE MEANS WILL SUFFICE TO HANDLE THE FLOW FOR DAY 6-7...AND WILL ALLOW SOMEPACIFIC INFLUENCE TO TRANSITION ACROSS THE LOWER 48. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaETC Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 :snowing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negative-nao Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Is the Monster storm in the Bering Sea the one that will pull down all of this arctic air after day 6 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambone Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 "Taken together they signal greater chances for frigid air to spill out of the Arctic into more temperate regions of North America, Europe and Asia, said Judah Cohen, director of seasonal forecasting at Atmospheric and Environmental Research in Lexington, Massachusetts, who developed the theory linking Siberian snow with winter weather. “A rapid advance of Eurasian snow cover during the month of October favors that the upcoming winter will be cold across the Northern Hemisphere,” Cohen said in an interview yesterday. “This past October the signal was quite robust.” There are a few steps to get from the snows of Siberia to the chills in New York City. Cold air builds over the expanse of snow, strengthening the pressure system known as a Siberian high. The high weakens the winds that circle the North Pole, allowing the cold air to leak into the lower latitudes. The term Polar Vortex actually refers to those winds, not the frigid weather." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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