jacobr57 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 49 in my backyard with a ways to drop ha. Interesting. I'm down in Hendersonville at about 2100 feet and am down to 45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRidgeFolklore Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Interesting. I'm down in Hendersonville at about 2100 feet and am down to 45. For as long as I can remember, Hendersonville almost always gets temperature readings a degree or 2 lower than Asheville and I've really never understood why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Clouds came in at sundown here. Only at 45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacoma Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 For as long as I can remember, Hendersonville almost always gets temperature readings a degree or 2 lower than Asheville and I've really never understood why. Think Asheville is a little higher in elevation. the cold tends to settle in more of the valleys. like downtown Franklin always is colder than Asheville and was told its a bigger valley much lower in elevation than asheville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacoma Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Jason Boyer is still saying 2-4 for Asheville. He hasn't backed down from last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRidgeFolklore Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Think Asheville is a little higher in elevation. the cold tends to settle in more of the valleys. like downtown Franklin always is colder than Asheville and was told its a bigger valley much lower in elevation than asheville. Hendersonville is actually higher in elevation. I believe Hendersonville is at 2,152 feet above sea level, Asheville reads at 2,134. However, I do believe Hendersonville sits in more of a valley setting than Asheville. The Balsam mountains to the west/southwest, Bearwallow Highlands range to the east/northeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobr57 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 There was a quick update from GSP:"I ADJUST POPS AND TEMPERATURES...BASED ON THE LATEST MOS AND MODELRUNS. IT APPEARS THAT ACCUM SN WILL BE GREATER WITHIN THE MTNVALLEYS...WITH AREAS SEEING AROUND 2 INCHES. THIS UPDATE WILLINCREASE THE STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL...WITH PRIMARY FOCUS GIVEN TO THEVALLEY LOCATIONS." My forecast for Hendersonville was bumped up to 1-2 inches tonight with less than an inch tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirNelson39 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Just went out to grab a bite to eat and to my disbelief they have put brine on all the roads here in Boone. Guess they didn't get the memo that it is suppose to start as rain. What a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Think Asheville is a little higher in elevation. the cold tends to settle in more of the valleys. like downtown Franklin always is colder than Asheville and was told its a bigger valley much lower in elevation than asheville.that reading for franklin comes from the airport which is about 2150' I believe. The problem with it though is its surrounded by peaks up to 5500'. So all that cold air spills down into that valley. Plus the airport is a good distance away from downtown and the rest of franklin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted November 26, 2014 Author Share Posted November 26, 2014 Temp has dropped to 40 degrees here know. Very slow drop off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoJoe Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Just went out to grab a bite to eat and to my disbelief they have put brine on all the roads here in Boone. Guess they didn't get the memo that i is suppose to start as rain. What a waste. They did the same here. I saw a truck spraying about 11 this morning. Like I said , they've closed schools. To hear people talk in town a blizzard is coming. A friend of mine posted on facebook that she heard we were going to get 15 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I saw Lokelyokels snow map on Facebook, the macon news had it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 The rap is a furnace too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted November 26, 2014 Author Share Posted November 26, 2014 The rap is a furnace too. Lol well we just dropped to 39 degrees. Might as well enjoy our torch tomorrow! Our faithful NAM is rolling in know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hvward Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 SREF is wetter and looks a tad colder but will have to see plumes to verify that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobr57 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 SREF is wetter and looks a tad colder but will have to see plumes to verify that. You're correct. The AVL average is 3.5 inches and the Franklin average is 4.4. Boone is up to 8.3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Looks like the NAM might be coming back east some and bringing the heaviest precip back further east compared to its last run. The SLP is further off the coast. Somewhat significant changes for nine hours out, I would think. The run is a certifiable torch, though. EDIT: I guess it's actually cooler than the 18z run, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted November 26, 2014 Author Share Posted November 26, 2014 NAM took a step towards the GFS but really it is time to jump ship off from the models and see what flies out the window. Going to bed. All good luck and hope we all wake up to snow on the ground in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nchighcountrywx Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I am impressed with how quickly the storm spun up but a shame no solid cold air Hopefully this type of even with cold air will be more prevalent this winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Nam drier and warmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted November 26, 2014 Author Share Posted November 26, 2014 I think that the second wave coming in on Thanksgiving may be a better system for the Mountains. Who knows but something to watch for in the immediate future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Looking back the no phase killed us. On to winter and flat waves moviNG from west to east without worrying about phasing at the right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griteater Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Nam drier and warmer. Pretty much standard operating procedures for the NAM just before go time, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxBlue Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Not quite there for Asheville. Temperature dripped above 0 Celsius near 900 mb level (ground at 930 mb). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneTracker Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Not quite there for Asheville. Temperature dripped above 0 Celsius near 900 mb level (ground at 930 mb). Oh it's there. That's an all snow sounding since the ice is falling through a near isothermal layer hovering around zero. That would be a heavy wet snow sounding. NAM hasn't given up on AVL just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxBlue Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Oh it's there. That's an all snow sounding since the ice is falling through a near isothermal layer hovering around zero. That would be a heavy wet snow sounding. NAM hasn't given up on AVL just yet. Oh, I see what you mean. So, on this sounding, ice survived where isothermal layer usually is and remained falling as snow until it's just above ground with not enough time to melt completely into rain? Is that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneTracker Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Oh, I see what you mean. So, on this sounding, ice survived where isothermal layer usually is and remained falling as snow until it's just above ground with not enough time to melt completely into rain? Is that right? Close. The isothermal layer in that sounding is 900-925mb or so, with the entire column below zero up from 900mb. Thus, anything that falls as ice will stay ice since the isothermal layer is on the zero line. GSP acknowledges this in their latest discussion and extended the WWA in Buncombe county to no longer be elevation dependent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hvward Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Close. The isothermal layer in that sounding is 900-925mb or so, with the entire column below zero up from 900mb. Thus, anything that falls as ice will stay ice since the isothermal layer is on the zero line. GSP acknowledges this in their latest discussion and extended the WWA in Buncombe county to no longer be elevation dependent. Good lessons HT. I really appreciate you posting these thoughts as it will help us all become better forecasters in the future! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxBlue Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Close. The isothermal layer in that sounding is 900-925mb or so, with the entire column below zero up from 900mb. Thus, anything that falls as ice will stay ice since the isothermal layer is on the zero line. GSP acknowledges this in their latest discussion and extended the WWA in Buncombe county to no longer be elevation dependent. Good lessons HT. I really appreciate you posting these thoughts as it will help us all become better forecasters in the future! Ditto! Thanks for those posts helping me out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wncsnow Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Rain starting now...43.. don't expect any snow here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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