Allsnow Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 NYC down to 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 All three NYC station below frz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Impressive to see this kind of cold two Novembers in a row. The high after midnight spoiled our shot at staying under freezing for the max like we saw last November 24th. The models have a high close to freezing tomorrow so we'll see. 24 30 23 27 -18 25 35 23 29 -16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Whipping winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NycStormChaser Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Anyone attending this? http://7online.com/society/wabc-tv-hosting-accuweather-town-hall-meeting-/395967/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 NYC down to 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Upton attached this tat the bottom of their ADF. SOME RECORDS MAY BE TIED OR SET WITH THE COLD AIR FORECAST TUE AND WED. THE FOLLOWING ARE RECORD LOW MAXIMUMS FOR TUE NOV 18 AND WED NOV 19TH... NOV 18 NOV 19 NYC....33/1959* 34/1882 JFK....32/1959 37/2008 LGA....32/1959 35/1951 EWR....33/1959 35/1951 BDR....32/1959 35/2008 ISP....41/2005 35/2008 *...ALSO OCCURRED IN PREVIOUS YEARS RECORD LOWS ARE ALSO POSSIBLE ON THE MORNING OF WED NOV 19. THE FOLLOWING ARE RECORD LOWS FOR WED NOV 19TH... NYC....18/1936 JFK....27/2008 LGA....28/2008 EWR....19/1936 BDR....24/1986 ISP....23/1997 I think all stations Wednesday break the record low maximum. 11/19 KNYC Lowest max. 31 in 1880... 34 in 1882... 35 in 1884.. 35 in 1951... 37 in 2008.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynSnow Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I know that technically the high for KNYC was around 45 for today at midnight, but when was the last time the first freeze produced a daytime high of below freezing as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Last Nov,. around the 24th and 25th there was a day with a high of just 30degs. @CPK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Last Nov,. around the 24th and 25th there was a day with a high of just 30degs. @CPK. That was also right after midnight with the afternoon staying in the 20's. http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KNYC/2013/11/24/DailyHistory.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 28 right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I know that technically the high for KNYC was around 45 for today at midnight, but when was the last time the first freeze produced a daytime high of below freezing as well? the first freeze would be the day before because it would have to hit freezing or below by midnight...11/14/1942 holds the record for the earliest date with a max 32 or lower...it was 32/26 max/min that day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Impressive to see the NYC dew point down to +1. We'll see how much lower it can go with last November 24th bottoming out at -4. http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KNYC/2013/11/24/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 ..LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1 PM ESTWEDNESDAY......LAKE EFFECT SNOW WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM LATE WEDNESDAYNIGHT THROUGH LATE THURSDAY NIGHT...* LOCATIONS...ERIE...GENESEE...AND WYOMING COUNTIES INCLUDING THE BUFFALO METRO AREA. NORTHERN EXTENT OF THE SNOW BAND FROM ROUGHLY A LINE FROM DOWNTOWN BUFFALO TO DEPEW AND BATAVIA.* TIMING...WARNING THROUGH MIDDAY WEDNESDAY. WATCH FROM LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH LATE THURSDAY NIGHT.* ACCUMULATIONS...SNOWFALL RATES OF 3 TO 5 INCHES PER HOUR IN THE MOST INTENSE PORTION OF THE BAND. THIS WILL BRING STORM TOTALS TO 5 TO 6 FEET IN THE MOST PERSISTENT SNOWS. NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... ...INCREDIBLE LAKE EFFECT SNOW EVENT CONTINUES TO UNFOLD TODAY WITH A TIGHT NORTHERN GRADIENT AND NEAR BLIZZARD CONDITIONS THROUGH TUESDAY EVENING... REGIONAL RADARS AND GROUND TRUTH REPORTS THIS MORNING TELL THE STORY OF THE LAKE EFFECT EVENT THAT CONTINUES TO UNFOLD THIS MORNING. OFF LAKE ERIE...RADARS DISPLAY A STRONG BAND OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW ALONG THE LONG FETCH OF LAKE ERIE...WITH SOUTHWEST WINDS DRIVING THIS BAND INLAND OVER AREAS FROM SOUTH BUFFALO TO THE SOUTHTOWNS AND EASTERN SUBURBS. THE NORTHERN EDGE OF THE BAND IS RIGHT NEAR DOWNTOWN TO DEPEW EAST TO NEAR BATAVIA. BASED ON REPORTS THIS SNOWBAND IS EXHIBITING SNOWFALL RATES OF 4 INCHES PER HOUR. THERE WERE SOME RUMBLES OF THUNDER LAST NIGHT...AND THOUGH LIGHTNING ACTIVITY HAS DIMINISHED...THE RISE IN EQUILIBRIUM LEVELS ALONG WITH SOME SUGGESTION FROM MESO SCALE MODEL REFLECTIVITY...WE AGAIN SHOULD SEE LIGHTNING AND HEAR SOME RUMBLES OF THUNDER WITHIN THE SNOWBAND TODAY. A 240 FLOW WILL LIKELY KEEP THIS BAND OF SNOW NEARLY STATIONARY THROUGH THE MORNING HOURS...WITH JUST SOME MINOR (FEW MILES) OF WIGGLES NORTH AND SOUTH. EXPECT THE HEAVIEST SNOW ACCUMULATIONS TO FALL JUST TO THE SOUTH OF ROUTE 33 THROUGH THE EARLY AFTERNOON HOURS. BASED ON REPORTS THIS MORNING OF SOME AREAS FROM SOUTH BUFFALO TO LANCASTER OF NEAR 40 INCHES ALREADY AND THE FACT THAT THE BAND WILL NOT MOVE MUCH THROUGH LATE AFTERNOON...WE HAVE INCREASED STORM TOTALS TO AROUND 70 INCHES IN THE HARDEST HIT AREAS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleetussnow Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Has there ever been a more awesome AFD than this? Lancaster NY reporting 48 inches already, and round 2 Thursday into Friday.... 80 inches for the week? ..LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1 PM ESTWEDNESDAY......LAKE EFFECT SNOW WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM LATE WEDNESDAYNIGHT THROUGH LATE THURSDAY NIGHT...* LOCATIONS...ERIE...GENESEE...AND WYOMING COUNTIES INCLUDING THE BUFFALO METRO AREA. NORTHERN EXTENT OF THE SNOW BAND FROM ROUGHLY A LINE FROM DOWNTOWN BUFFALO TO DEPEW AND BATAVIA.* TIMING...WARNING THROUGH MIDDAY WEDNESDAY. WATCH FROM LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH LATE THURSDAY NIGHT.* ACCUMULATIONS...SNOWFALL RATES OF 3 TO 5 INCHES PER HOUR IN THE MOST INTENSE PORTION OF THE BAND. THIS WILL BRING STORM TOTALS TO 5 TO 6 FEET IN THE MOST PERSISTENT SNOWS. NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/......INCREDIBLE LAKE EFFECT SNOW EVENT CONTINUES TO UNFOLD TODAY WITHA TIGHT NORTHERN GRADIENT AND NEAR BLIZZARD CONDITIONS THROUGHTUESDAY EVENING...REGIONAL RADARS AND GROUND TRUTH REPORTS THIS MORNING TELL THE STORYOF THE LAKE EFFECT EVENT THAT CONTINUES TO UNFOLD THIS MORNING.OFF LAKE ERIE...RADARS DISPLAY A STRONG BAND OF LAKE EFFECT SNOWALONG THE LONG FETCH OF LAKE ERIE...WITH SOUTHWEST WINDS DRIVINGTHIS BAND INLAND OVER AREAS FROM SOUTH BUFFALO TO THE SOUTHTOWNS ANDEASTERN SUBURBS. THE NORTHERN EDGE OF THE BAND IS RIGHT NEARDOWNTOWN TO DEPEW EAST TO NEAR BATAVIA. BASED ON REPORTS THISSNOWBAND IS EXHIBITING SNOWFALL RATES OF 4 INCHES PER HOUR. THEREWERE SOME RUMBLES OF THUNDER LAST NIGHT...AND THOUGH LIGHTNINGACTIVITY HAS DIMINISHED...THE RISE IN EQUILIBRIUM LEVELS ALONG WITHSOME SUGGESTION FROM MESO SCALE MODEL REFLECTIVITY...WE AGAIN SHOULDSEE LIGHTNING AND HEAR SOME RUMBLES OF THUNDER WITHIN THE SNOWBANDTODAY.A 240 FLOW WILL LIKELY KEEP THIS BAND OF SNOW NEARLY STATIONARYTHROUGH THE MORNING HOURS...WITH JUST SOME MINOR (FEW MILES) OFWIGGLES NORTH AND SOUTH. EXPECT THE HEAVIEST SNOW ACCUMULATIONS TOFALL JUST TO THE SOUTH OF ROUTE 33 THROUGH THE EARLY AFTERNOONHOURS. BASED ON REPORTS THIS MORNING OF SOME AREAS FROM SOUTHBUFFALO TO LANCASTER OF NEAR 40 INCHES ALREADY AND THE FACT THAT THEBAND WILL NOT MOVE MUCH THROUGH LATE AFTERNOON...WE HAVE INCREASEDSTORM TOTALS TO AROUND 70 INCHES IN THE HARDEST HIT AREAS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weathergun Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Some places over Western NY will have more snow today alone, than we had here all of last winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelocita Weather Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Some places over Western NY will have more snow today alone, than we had here all of last winter. These are the times you wish Eastern PA was a lake... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Some places over Western NY will have more snow today alone, than we had here all of last winter. And it will all compress down to 2 inches by next week and then blow/melt away. It is fake, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Some places over Western NY will have more snow today alone, than we had here all of last winter. Welcome to the real world...I'm sure that there are several towns on the western plateau of NY that have mean November snowfalls close to NYC's mean annual snowfall...especially in the favored high spots of Chautauqua and Cattaraugus counties. New Albion is generally one of the snowier co-op's out that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WintersGrasp Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Some places over Western NY will have more snow today alone, than we had here all of last winter. Insane isn't it ? Really insane considering last winter was incredible here, not a dud. Whew.....I've experienced lake effect snow several years back when I stayed in Pulaski and traveled to Redfield. It was during an event that Barnes Corners got dumped on bigtime. Where I stayed in Pulaski, there was about 1.5-2ft on the ground. In Redfield, as I got deeper in, there was easily 4-5ft on the ground with more to come. It's really an incredible place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WintersGrasp Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 These are the times you wish Eastern PA was a lake...We'd probably still be frustrated as we'd watch areas like West Milford still get more than double our lake effect snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 We'd probably still be frustrated as we'd watch areas like West Milford still get more than double our lake effect snow Since its all downhill from the Poconos...NYC would probably get very little...as the downsloping component would adiabatically heat & compress the air...aided & abetted by the fact that the prevailing winter winds are perpendicular to the Appalachians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WintersGrasp Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Since its all downhill from the Poconos...probably would get hardly anything at all...as the downsloping component would adiabatically heat & compress the air...aided & abetted by the fact that the prevailing winter winds are perpendicular to the Appalachians. Thanks for injecting knowledge into the subject! At least we now have something to blame. The Poconos are to blame for weakened systems as well as figuratively now if PA was a lake Solution : I guess we'll just have to move to a lake area. Overall, I'd still prefer somewhere off of Ontario though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwcMan Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 They'd torch the snow in NYC and surrounding cities with a flame-thrower if the area received 7 feet lol. Small side streets in the city would be disastrous, they're bad enough with 1-2 feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Has there ever been a more awesome AFD than this? Lancaster NY reporting 48 inches already, and round 2 Thursday into Friday.... 80 inches for the week? The wall of snow view from just outside the band is a beautiful sight. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/11/18/buffalo-n-y-area-in-the-midst-of-a-truly-insane-lake-effect-snow-storm/ https://twitter.com/WNYweather/status/534715791883927552/photo/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I almost spend more time in the New England forum than I do here lately, and I can confirm that none of the mets there are the least bit worried about this Winter. Most years we don't even consider accumulating snow before Christmas. If you happen to see some before then, consider yourself lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Thanks for injecting knowledge into the subject! At least we now have something to blame. The Poconos are to blame for weakened systems as well as figuratively now if PA was a lake Solution : I guess we'll just have to move to a lake area. Overall, I'd still prefer somewhere off of Ontario though. You're welcome. The role of the Atlantic in turning east coast snows to rains is sometimes overemphasized at the expense of noting the very important role the Appalachians play in limiting the amount of snow that falls along the coastal plain...from Maine to the Carolinas. W/o the mountains, it is likely that lake effect streamers would regularly reach the coast. W/o the mountains, east bound mid latitude cyclones would be more inclined to strengthen, rather than fall apart as they slam into the mountains. Also, as a northeastbound offshore cyclone approaches NYC's latitude and the winds back around to the northwest...with those hills to the west...there is almost immediate improvement in sky conditions due to compressional warming from sinking air. That is the main reason so called "backlash" snow is so very rare in NYC and along the east coast in general. The Atlantic is, at least, a double edged sword...fueling offshore cyclones with copious moisture if concurrently warming the lower levels of the atmosphere; I can think of very few benefits that the Appalachians provide for immediate east coast snow fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 You're welcome. The role of the Atlantic in turning east coast snows to rains is sometimes overemphasized at the expense of noting the very important role the Appalachians play in limiting the amount of snow that falls along the coastal plain...from Maine to the Carolinas. W/o the mountains, it is likely that lake effect streamers would regularly reach the coast. W/o the mountains, east bound mid latitude cyclones would be more inclined to strengthen, rather than fall apart as they slam into the mountains. Also, as a northeastbound offshore cyclone approaches NYC's latitude and the winds back around to the northwest...with those hills to the west...there is almost immediate improvement in sky conditions due to compressional warming from sinking air. That is the main reason so called "backlash" snow is so very rare in NYC and along the east coast in general. The Atlantic is, at least, a double edged sword...fueling offshore cyclones with copious moisture if concurrently warming the lower levels of the atmosphere; I can think of very few benefits that the Appalachians provide for immediate east coast snow fans. Only 1 CAD . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 And it will all compress down to 2 inches by next week and then blow/melt away. It is fake, after all. There is some truth to that as it's super low water content snow. I'm sure it's compressing big time as we speak. It's been I'm the mid teens for most of the event there.On another note it was 6 degrees colder at Central Park then west Hampton this morning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Only 1 CAD . But since that is low level cold air...it may serve as an enabler of sleet & freezing rain...snow would seem a less likely result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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