REDMK6GLI Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Agree, a warm December puts the kabash on an epic winter. Many people are calling for a frigid December, so this could be the early signal of the train off the tracks. Some of worst stuff ive read here recently all brought about by a well predicted pattern RELAXATION and not REVERSAL. This was well explained that relaxing and reloading would happen beginning to middle of december with the cold returning. Some of you gotta get a grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Some of worst stuff ive read here recently all brought about by a well predicted pattern RELAXATION and not REVERSAL. This was well explained that relaxing and reloading would happen beginning to middle of december with the cold returning. Some of you gotta get a grip How. December is a cold month. January is a cold month. February is a cold month. March is a not a cold month. You need to get the 3 in a row to be in an epic winter catergory imop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 How. December is a cold month. January is a cold month. February is a cold month. March is a not a cold month. You need to get the 3 in a row to be in an epic winter catergory imop. Thats your flaw right there, its a personal not professional statement/ opinion. Winters are judged by cumulative snowfall/temps not by what your standards are. Some of blockbuster winters featured torched decembers only to be lights out awesome january and february. December can many times be a transitional month as well as we may see this year with blocking and cold being re-established. Point being is that one has to realize DJF isnt gonna be wall to wall cold with NO relaxation at one point or another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 How. December is a cold month. January is a cold month. February is a cold month. March is a not a cold month. You need to get the 3 in a row to be in an epic winter catergory imop. Unless you pull off an epic 30 day snow pattern a la 10-11 which is very rare. For me a good to great winter is pulling off one good storm per winter month on average with minor events (1-3" type stuff) sprinkled around them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 This happens every November. People get worried for no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I have zero issues wearing a shirt and shorts during the winter during a cold reload. Being a nice sunny day and it 20 degrees or lower isnt exactly fun, once again though that is only MY OPINION Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Winters are judged by cumulative snowfall/temps not by what your standards are. Yet most of you folks seem to be of the opinion that the lack of a blockbuster snowstorm last winter prevented the season from joining the greats, despite ample snowfall and memorable cold. I get the vague impression that many of us would never be fully satisfied with any winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Yet most of you folks seem to be of the opinion that the lack of a blockbuster snowstorm last winter prevented the season from joining the greats, despite ample snowfall and memorable cold. I get the vague impression that many of us would never be fully satisfied with any winter. Last winter was awesome and was among the greats IMO. Bone cold, snowed in the single digits and between 50-60" of snow for the season. Five star winter if you ask me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 10 days from now takes us to the 23rd, November 23rd, December won't start until 8 days AFTER that. Relax guys. Patterns fluctuate, even the coldest winters have warm spells. Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 You must have temps below normal each month for an epic winter. Snow is snow. Having warm temps and above avg snow is not an epic winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Yet most of you folks seem to be of the opinion that the lack of a blockbuster snowstorm last winter prevented the season from joining the greats, despite ample snowfall and memorable cold. I get the vague impression that many of us would never be fully satisfied with any winter. Truth. Expectations have simply gotten too crazy lately. We could use a string of 01-02/11-12 type winters to shake things up, lower the hype, and allow us to come back down to Earth. Have we recently experienced any back to back bad winters. The only winters close would be 06-07 and 07-08 but the sleet storms were too epic for me to group those two winters together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Back to average after today but why does it matter if we end up -1 or -3? It could be -5 that doesn't mean we're getting snow Also 2004-05 did nothing until January and turned into a pretty great winter. December 2004 was pretty good. The first 2 weeks of January 2005 were a bit of a torch, yet even during that period we managed to squeeze some light snows out of unlikely situations. It was a winter where it found a way to snow if at all possible. Parts of LI wound up near 80". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Are we seriously panicing already, my god. Take the weenism somewhere else, like a banter thread. People need to realize that November sensible weather here means very little for the winter on most occasions as the October patterns carry most of the weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Man, you guys are playing right into my post from a few days ago when I spoke about the pattern regression causing panic. Give it a rest. It's November 13th. Good lord. Meanwhile, really great looking recent SSTA. PDO/NAO regions look classic...El Nino regions improving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 People need to realize that November sensible weather here means very little for the winter on most occasions as the October patterns carry most of the weight. It won't be 25 degrees in November for 3 weeks straight. Therefore, winter is canceled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Man, you guys are playing right into my post from a few days ago when I spoke about the pattern regression causing panic. Give it a rest. It's November 13th. Good lord. Meanwhile, really great looking recent SSTA. PDO/NAO regions look classic...El Nino regions improving. You nailed it! Thanksgiving is looking warm, fine with me as I have my annual flag football game that Saturday! Last year was too cold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH L.I Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Lol..this is your typical November weather..November is NOT a winter month.It warms up in November,EVERY year.To have temps in the 50's or even near 60 on Thanksgiving is not uncommon.Even blockbuster winters had very warm days in December like,umm last year..Early December 1960 it was in the 60's before a historic winter pattern kicked in..The cold will ease every winter.i would rather have a November thaw than one later in the winter.Relax guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 It won't be 25 degrees in November for 3 weeks straight. Therefore, winter is canceled. I can't imagine what these threads would have looked like if the forum was around for the 80's into early 90's snow drought years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 You nailed it! Thanksgiving is looking warm, fine with me as I have my annual flag football game that Saturday! Last year was too cold I have my annual football game and saturday night go to the house of butcher from my store and have post thankgiving feast! Warm or cold im still gonna be happy person thanksgiving day and weekend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Man, you guys are playing right into my post from a few days ago when I spoke about the pattern regression causing panic. Give it a rest. It's November 13th. Good lord. Meanwhile, really great looking recent SSTA. PDO/NAO regions look classic...El Nino regions improving. Indeed looks nice and promising once the relaxation, i mean winter cancel passes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I can't imagine what these threads would have looked like if the forum was around for the 80's into early 90's snow drought years. nysnow.gif The bit older than me crowd had the misfortune of experiencing the other snow drought of 68-77 oh the horror for those in their 50's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 December 2004 was pretty good. The first 2 weeks of January 2005 were a bit of a torch, yet even during that period we managed to squeeze some light snows out of unlikely situations. It was a winter where it found a way to snow if at all possible. Parts of LI wound up near 80". Through Jan 20th Central Park only had 4.4" of snow (I really can't even imagine the panic that would ensue if that were to occur again)...but 36" from Jan 22nd thru mid March. I do recall some near misses and storms which clipped LI so amounts there were considerably higher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Extreme weenie panic is half the joy of winter. The other 40 percent is model watching a Day 10 storm look promising by Day 4 then ultimately fall apart while everyone bickers and cries about it. The last 10 percent is observing an actual storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH L.I Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I can't imagine what these threads would have looked like if the forum was around for the 80's into early 90's snow drought years. nysnow.gif I was there,back when it hardly ever snowed in December..you were lucky to get a few weeks of winter weather..believe me folks,what we have experienced in the last 10-15 years is NOT typical NYC winters..If most of you lived in the 70's 80's and the 90's you wouldn't be spoiled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 The bit older than me crowd had the misfortune of experiencing the other snow drought of 68-77 oh the horror for those in their 50's The only snowstorms that were really memorable for me from 1970-1992: 1-20-78 2-5-78 2-19-79 4-6-82 2-11-83 1-22-87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Through Jan 20th Central Park only had 4.4" of snow (I really can't even imagine the panic that would ensue if that were to occur again)...but 36" from Jan 22nd thru mid March. I do recall some near misses and storms which clipped LI so amounts there were considerably higher There was a joke thread that winter "places with more snow than NYC" on Christmas eve it was a gold mine with that Texas snow storm, someone posted "oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 18Z gfs is colder for Monday. Storm over the benchmark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weathergun Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 18Z gfs is colder for Monday. Storm over the benchmark. The 18z GFS Para is still west and warmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Para is also colder and east this run along with the dgex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 ^^^^ which one is it? West or east? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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