WintersGrasp Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 The November 2012 snow was just an extension of sandy for me because I still hadnt gotten power back and was on day 12 of backup generatorYep I just remember that whole thing was such a mess. I still can't believe how ill equipped we all truly were.....Driving miles and miles just to get enough gas, cold showers.....Despite having no heat, hot water or electricity, I'm thankful that my family and I still had shelter throughout the storm. What would normally be icing on the cake with some snow was like a cold slap in the face on top of everything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Long Island couldn't take the weight of the snow and sank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Imperator Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Staten Island is all trees, unless you are on the main roads. Howard Beach, Queens had a lot of sizable trees too, although most of them were removed last year due to salt water damage from Sandy and also some ConEd felt would be a nuisance to their infrastructure. Luckily the city is replanting close to 400 trees in our area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Imperator Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 GFS 6Z/JFK: SAT 18Z 01-NOV 10.9 -0.6 1005 70 98 0.03 541 537SAT 21Z 01-NOV 8.0 -0.7 1005 87 99 0.08 541 537SUN 00Z 02-NOV 5.3 -0.7 1007 91 100 0.20 541 536SUN 03Z 02-NOV 4.1 -1.4 1007 94 99 0.11 541 535SUN 06Z 02-NOV 4.1 -1.5 1008 93 100 0.21 541 534SUN 09Z 02-NOV 3.9 -1.8 1011 92 100 0.07 542 533SUN 12Z 02-NOV 3.4 -2.0 1015 89 91 0.10 544 532 This could be a case where the Bronx, north shore of LI would do better than the south shore. It always happens with these marginal events where it will be snowing in Manhattan and raining/mix down by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 How can you say that Manhattan doesn't have a lot of trees when they have Central Park? Brooklyn is really the only boro that is almost wall to wall pavement. The rest of Manhattan where people live has very little trees and would sustain very little damage from an early season snowfall. Heck half the time you barely notice it snowed even in January the day following a modest snowstorm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 The rest of Manhattan where people live has very little trees and would sustain very little damage from an early season snowfall. Heck half the time you barely notice it snowed even in January the day following a modest snowstorm Okay correct me if I'm wrong but I didn't see where you were specifying about possible damage. Yes, most of the snow in Manhattan that does stick around is black before the next morning, outside of the areas in and close to the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Okay correct me if I'm wrong but I didn't see where you were specifying about possible damage. Yes, most of the snow in Manhattan that does stick around is black before the next morning, outside of the areas in and close to the park. Well I thought that was kind of the point. Early season snowfall won't make a difference unless you live near alot of trees or have power lines that could be brought down by the weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 How can you say that Manhattan doesn't have a lot of trees when they have Central Park? Brooklyn is really the only boro that is almost wall to wall pavement. Where people live. No one lives in Central Park. The area of Bayside, North Flushing, Douglaston and Little Neck, in Queens, has some densely tree lined areas (relatively speaking). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 troof! do tree's actually grow in "da hood"? and I don't mean the ones people smoke you must have been to my park in south Brooklyn. Depending on the time of day or night, just walking through that park can put you pretty close to the tops of the resident trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I was not around NYC proper during the late October 2011 and Early November, 2012 snow events. In which storm did NYC proper receive more and were there winter weather advisories or winter storm warnings hoisted for either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Where people live. No one lives in Central Park. The area of Bayside, North Flushing, Douglaston and Little Neck, in Queens, has some densely tree lined areas (relatively speaking). I'm familiar with Queens ever since my sister lived in Flushing while attending St Johns Law. Now she's out in Smithtown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Guys back to the storm please ! I posted the 850 differences between the Euro OP and it Ensembles at 108 . At this distance I would recommend watching the 500 MB evolution on the Euro to see if the energy continues to consolidate . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 troof! do tree's actually grow in "da hood"? and I don't mean the ones people smoke you must have been to my park in south Brooklyn. Depending on the time of day or night, just walking through that park can put you pretty close to the tops of the resident trees.How can you say that Manhattan doesn't have a lot of trees when they have Central Park? Brooklyn is really the only boro that is almost wall to wall pavement. How can you say that Manhattan doesn't have a lot of trees when they have Central Park? Brooklyn is really the only boro that is almost wall to wall pavement. Get ready for the Prospect Park counter attack. Nice place, specifically where the glacier stopped.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEC Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Brooklyn and Manhattan have the least amount of trees. Queens, Bronx and Staten Island have a lot of sections that are pretty thick in trees. Especially Northeast Queens and Northern Bronx. Actually, Brooklyn is #2 of the five boroughs in the number of trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Yeah, this long animation shows how Ana's remnants play into the mix. This will be interesting to track now that the models will start to converge. http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/goes/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Ana_WV_1200UTC_12-27October_arrow.gifGgood post Good Post . Wana see how it gets sampled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Guys back to the storm please ! I posted the 850 differences between the Euro OP and it Ensembles at 108 . At this distance I would recommend watching the 500 MB evolution on the Euro to see if the energy continues to consolidate . totally agree here. also IF the UKMET ends up being correct kudos to it for being so consistent over the past several days on the more digging/amplified solution. That said, much better trend overnight from our EURO to a colder/snowier solution after the 18z weenie suicides yesterday evening.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Good Post . Wana see how it gets sampled the sampling thing in the "sparse data regions" of Canada has and has not played a notable role in the final outcome of the storm on the east coast in the past, however like chris said the tropical connection will certainly throw a monkey wrench into this forecast the next few days paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Good Post . Wana see how it gets sampled thats why the models are confused on how to handle ANA - it is amazing though that a Pacific hurricane that was 6000 miles away from us at one point could end up being a major player in our weather with some very impressive results for this time of the year - the Atlantic hurricane season was a dud this year except for Bermuda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelocita Weather Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 Does anyone know how much the EURO shows in terms of snow accumulation verbatim on the 0z? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 thats why the models are confused on how to handle ANA - it is amazing though that a Pacific hurricane that was 6000 miles away from us at one point could end up being a major player in our weather with some very impressive results for this time of the year - the Atlantic hurricane season was a dud this year except for Bermuda Bermuda really got walloped by the hurricane. this isn't the first time a tropical influence has had an influence on our sensible weather, whether it be from the pacific or atlantic side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Does anyone know how much the EURO shows in terms of snow accumulation verbatim on the 0z? I'm guessing it would have to be very little if most places near the city barely drop to 40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I'm guessing it would have to be very little if most places near the city barely drop to 40 if the EURO and especially UKMET that has not wavered with this storm continue to dig and deepen more I don't think temps should be an issue for a heavy wet snow. too early to tell now though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NycStormChaser Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 How can you say that Manhattan doesn't have a lot of trees when they have Central Park? Brooklyn is really the only boro that is almost wall to wall pavement. Lol, forgot about prospect park? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Lol, forgot about prospect park? Do people actually live in Prospect Park? Pardon my ignorance as I've never even heard of it before. If not, then I guess it falls under the same catagory as Central Park in terms of potential damage from early season snowfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 thats why the models are confused on how to handle ANA - it is amazing though that a Pacific hurricane that was 6000 miles away from us at one point could end up being a major player in our weather with some very impressive results for this time of the year - the Atlantic hurricane season was a dud this year except for Bermuda Very true . I think the Euro ensembles could be right and I am really starting to think it Snows and accumulates all the way to the coast . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I was not around NYC proper during the late October 2011 and Early November, 2012 snow events. In which storm did NYC proper receive more and were there winter weather advisories or winter storm warnings hoisted for either? I believe that Upton hoisted Winter Weather Advisories. Lol, forgot about prospect park? I was just about to mention prospect park lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I've only been to Brooklyn once in my life and it was for a Paul Mccartney concert two summers ago at the Barclays Center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Nice trends on the 12z NAM FWIW. Through 66 hours the ridge is more amplified and the southern stream shortwave is stronger. It's all helping to sharpen the trough a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Phase occuring at hour 72 and the trough is going negative tilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Phase occuring at hour 72 and the trough is going negative tilt. Where do you get your NAM info from so quickly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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