Guest Imperator Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/10/21/now-more-than-ever-weather-com-is-out-of-control/ Great blog post by the Capital Weather Gang. Even a relatively benign, typical Nor'easter, (like what we are seeing currently) is being spun to crazy levels by this formerly credible weather outlet. Fair Use Excerpt: "A headline today on Weather.com, The Weather Channel’s Web site, has reached new heights in its absurdity and, frankly, irresponsibility. It’s leading Weather.com down a dangerous path of completely losing credibility as a serious source of weather information." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kory Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Don't let reality get in the way of a good hype session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Imperator Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Don't let reality get in the way of a good hype session. It's sad, because I use to watch TWC all the time when I was a kid. They are leading the way down a bad path of turning weather into something of either entertainment value or something to always be feared and less about wonderment and science. It's a discredit to all of the hard working serious weather professionals out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 flood watches from Buzzards Bay & gale warnings from Moorhead City north to Canada I guess I might cut them some slack this go-round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 In an age when weather information is outdated after 10 minutes, and Chad the 16-year-old has more ECMWF products than most forecasters, it's easy to understand why TWC is desperate for hits and ratings. I've grown to abhor the modern TWC as much as the next wx enthusiast, but they're probably going to pull stunts like this every week or so for the rest of the cold season. Not worth the outrage as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaETC Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Man...I miss the old TWC. Back in the 90s when they were actually serious about weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvantHiatus Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 It's just a secondary source, no point in getting upset about something you don't use constantly. This applies to anything really. The demographic that watches TWC is just the casual person. TWC is becoming worse in context because it is primarily reliant on television media. Internet users generally have access to more expansive products and likely have higher standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantom X Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 It's a shame they plummeted so fast. I started watching in 1982 and say they were decent until around 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Imperator Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 It's just a secondary source, no point in getting upset about something you don't use constantly. This applies to anything really. The demographic that watches TWC is just the casual person. TWC is becoming worse in context because it is primarily reliant on television media. Internet users generally have access to more expansive products and likely have higher standards. Because it's geared to the casual viewer and not a weather hobbyist/professional does not give them license to devolve into what they have become. If anything, they should hold themselves to a more professional standard because they are dealing with people that do not have more than basic knowledge of the weather, rather than preying on people's fears and emotions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kory Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 It's a shame they plummeted so fast. I started watching in 1982 and say they were decent until around 2006 It all started after NBC purchased them in 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Couldn't really care less. They are catering to the average American and trying to get said American to peer away from their cell phone for 5 minutes , so they try to get their attention. Are they calling for a foot of snow? No so as .....damageintolland would say "hype sells" and hype gets your attention. Are they calling for any crazy conditions that aren't forecast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike.Ventrice Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 While I agree with most on this forum regarding the over-hype on storms and ridiculous headlines to generate web-clicks, for what it is worth, this will be a nasty storm for the Northeast. GFS is dropping the storm to 995mb and as others posted above there will be issues along the coast. But that being said, yes it's just a rain storm and the diction in the headline is rather misleading. I presume using the word "impact" rather than "threaten" would pay dividends to the greater meteorological audience. Something that I encountered at TWC when I made a visit down there to give a talk was that they are severely limited to the words they say on air. This goes for all broadcasters, including the "expert desk" folks. The general audience has dramatically shifted since most of us watched TWC on a religious basis. But note that this isn't the only place that we've seen these changes... CNN is another example of what was once a credible news source that now gives us push alert texts regarding celebrities. No one likes change. I am also one that wishes TWC goes back to what we were all accustom to. But when it comes down to it, if they stayed that way and did not adapt the current times... there probably wouldn't be a TWC to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman56 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I hear the same nonsense on the network evening news - "78 million people in the path of tornadoes!!!". And after all the other catastrophes reported in the same dire tones in that half hour, one should just crawl under their bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvantHiatus Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I hear the same nonsense on the network evening news - "78 million people in the path of tornadoes!!!". And after all the other catastrophes reported in the same dire tones in that half hour, one should just crawl under their bed. On the contrary, was the Sandy hype valid? However, the danger with hyping everything is that people will become desensitized. It just seems like a shallow way to keep people watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bob Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 It all started after NBC purchased them in 2008. It started in the mid to late 90s...and the horrible phrase "appointment viewing"....add on the internet and weather data at your fingertips and so it goes...Landmark Communications have always been shrewd business people...The Battens always milked the cow dry then sold it...NBC was the sucker at least from the TV aspect...the weather.com brand is still worth a ton.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Imperator Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 While I agree with most on this forum regarding the over-hype on storms and ridiculous headlines to generate web-clicks, for what it is worth, this will be a nasty storm for the Northeast. GFS is dropping the storm to 995mb and as others posted above there will be issues along the coast. But that being said, yes it's just a rain storm and the diction in the headline is rather misleading. I presume using the word "impact" rather than "threaten" would pay dividends to the greater meteorological audience. Something that I encountered at TWC when I made a visit down there to give a talk was that they are severely limited to the words they say on air. This goes for all broadcasters, including the "expert desk" folks. The general audience has dramatically shifted since most of us watched TWC on a religious basis. But note that this isn't the only place that we've seen these changes... CNN is another example of what was once a credible news source that now gives us push alert texts regarding celebrities. No one likes change. I am also one that wishes TWC goes back to what we were all accustom to. But when it comes down to it, if they stayed that way and did not adapt the current times... there probably wouldn't be a TWC to watch. Mike, I dont think anyone disagrees with the meteorological impacts of this storm. However, I personally feel that weather is an area that should be presented to the general public in the most rational and responsible way possible. Hyping storm after storm this way just to get attention/click bait, I feel is very irresponsible. Eventually, it becomes a life safety issue because if something really dangerous comes around, people are not going to heed the warnings because of all the previous hyping of storms that were normal seasonal events. If you want to analyze a step further, all this media fear mongering with the weather could potentially scare the next generation of weather professionals away from the industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kory Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 On the contrary, was the Sandy hype valid? However, the danger with hyping everything is that people will become desensitized. It just seems like a shallow way to keep people watching. That's comparing apples to oranges. Sandy was an EXTREMELY rare storm. Life threatening to a lot of people with surge and wind not seen in a very long time in that area of the country. However, nor'easters are much more common than a Sandy type situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBG Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Great blog post by the Capital Weather Gang. Even a relatively benign, typical Nor'easter, (like what we are seeing currently) is being spun to crazy levels by this formally credible weather outlet. Do you mean "formerly" or do you mean that now they are only "formally" reputable rather than reputable in reality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Imperator Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Do you mean "formerly" or do you mean that now they are only "formally" reputable rather than reputable in reality? Edited, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derecho! Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 This isn't just Weather.com. Over the last year or so on the major three networks evening news I've seen them lead off with coverage of a current or impending severe weather outbreak that frankly is pretty run-of-the-mill, even with multple other major breaking news items that day. They certainly didn't do that before. They're devoting the level of coverage you'd expect for the Superoutbreak to something that's 2 or 3 Red boxes, 3-4 tornadoes and maybe 1 F3 with some flash flooding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Imperator Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 This isn't just Weather.com. Over the last year or so on the major three networks evening news I've seen them lead off with coverage of a current or impending severe weather outbreak that frankly is pretty run-of-the-mill, even with multple other major breaking news items that day. They certainly didn't do that before. They're devoting the level of coverage you'd expect for the Superoutbreak to something that's 2 or 3 Red boxes, 3-4 tornadoes and maybe 1 F3 with some flash flooding. Especially ABC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isohume Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 "Millions" - the new buzzword by mainstream media. Every storm now is dangerous and threatening no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBG Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Edited, thanks.You are welcome. Did your posting name change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 The Weather Channel lost any ounce of remaining credibility when it started naming winter storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Kind of a CWG fail. Winds caused quite a bit of damage and flooding is getting serious where I am. Agree that it shouldn't be hyped, but this actually was rather strong for an October storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Imperator Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 You are welcome. Did your posting name change? Yes, ex NYCVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akeem the African Dream Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I can cut them some clack on this one. Has anyone seen their most recent show depicting the tornado hitting Miami? Talk about hype complete with fancy computer animations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTWXRISK Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 SCOTT I posted on this event 6 days ago as a significant oct new England noreaster and got almost NO response.... so some of us did seen the potential of this event Kind of a CWG fail. Winds caused quite a bit of damage and flooding is getting serious where I am. Agree that it shouldn't be hyped, but this actually was rather strong for an October storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Imperator Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 The media really started becoming out of bounds obsessed with the weather as a result of Hurricane Katrina. I am sure the rise of the internet and the some armchair weather hobbyists also contributed to what we are dealing with today. While a major hurricane or severe weather outbreak warrants extensive coverage, events such as nor'easters, thunderstorms, winter storms and even some low level tropical storms that were previously normal seasonal events have become fodder for the media and some weather outlets to hype and fear monger to ridiculous levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Man...I miss the old TWC. Back in the 90s when they were actually serious about weather. I miss Paul Kocin on TWC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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