ORH_wxman Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I think a lot of the area is going to have raw NE winds and rain so for this area I thin nor'easter is fitting. I think you are sort of stretching it further SW like in CT. Name calling? Eh....kind of weak sauce. Yeah I think for at least coastal MA up through ME it can be classified as a Nor' Easter. Model guidance has like 25-30 knots sustained on the coast...esp from near BOS-northward. It's a solid storm once it finally develops...its mostly just inclement weather though further south...perhaps a chance at some flooding rains in NJ where the convection sets up Don't get me started on the naming of extra-tropical storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Why would you say that? Cantore was probably one of the better on-air mets back in the day (1990s) who understood the meteorology. He's a good on air met and he has experience, but how could you group him in with the other aforementioned names? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 He's a good on air met and he has experience, but how could you group him in with the other aforementioned names? I wouldn't. But you said "he's no expert in meteorology". I disagreed. He's not a specialist like John Hope was or Forbes, but he knows his stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterfish55 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I've been in the Seekonk/Attleboro area all day. it's been raining off and on since about 10 AM. Actually came down hard for a while. Now heading back to Raynham towards blue skies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 He's a good on air met and he has experience, but how could you group him in with the other aforementioned names?Jim is really knowledgeable. He's probably one of the best all-around mets they've ever had. He has a flair for the dramatic on-camera and knows how to make good TV, but don't let that fool you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstorm Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Long gone are the days of John Hope, Paul Kocin and Steve Lyons. At least they still have Greg Forbes. I knew things were going downhill when they started putting Jim Cantore on the expert desk. He may be the current face of the station but he's no expert in Meteorology. Cantore is a sharp cookie who knows his stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstorm Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Jim is really knowledgeable. He's probably one of the best all-around mets they've ever had. He has a flair for the dramatic on-camera and knows how to make good TV, but don't let that fool you. Bingo. It's amazing that Yanksfan buys into model runs with a flair for the dramatic (e.g., every run of the 4K NAM), but uses that trait to undermine a classic met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Just looping some of the NAM runs.. Ever watch one of those cool convective blobs south of SNE that never really makes it inland and rolls out to sea? The way this storm is set up, look out for one of those rolling inland, could be enhanced by a dryslot too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Some signs of CF enhancement possibly in this storm, although it's so wrapped up. it probably is more like a back bent type warm front. Still, you can see it in the QPF fields. Yeah, euro has had that for days. Cape ann might actually be an interesting place to be. Just far enough north to get in on some winds I think coming right off the water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Lol @ the total totals on the nam. Thunder coming to eastern mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 IJD sunny and 67. ORH cloudy and 58 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Yeah I think for at least coastal MA up through ME it can be classified as a Nor' Easter. Model guidance has like 25-30 knots sustained on the coast...esp from near BOS-northward. It's a solid storm once it finally develops...its mostly just inclement weather though further south...perhaps a chance at some flooding rains in NJ where the convection sets up Don't get me started on the naming of extra-tropical storms. The BOS and northward noreaster look was a big change from just a couple days ago. They were on the meh gravy train too. Mid levels dropping a tick south have helped out massively. There was barely a gust of wind a couple euro runs ago on cape ann, and even rain totals in york county maine were meh. Now everything has come a little south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 12z Euro still with an SOS signal up here with precip in the 4-5"+ range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I don't think their issue is calling it a Nor'Easter, but rather the incredibly misleading headline of 'Nor'Easter to threaten millions' Yeah - I should have been more clear... you're right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I wouldn't. But you said "he's no expert in meteorology". I disagreed. He's not a specialist like John Hope was or Forbes, but he knows his stuff. Jim is really knowledgeable. He's probably one of the best all-around mets they've ever had. He has a flair for the dramatic on-camera and knows how to make good TV, but don't let that fool you. Cantore is a sharp cookie who knows his stuff. Then I stand corrected. As people that work in the field, I will differ to your opinions regarding his level of expertise. I just feel as in an attempt to capture a larger audiance, The Weather Channel has "dummed" down its programming and become so commercialized that any glimpse of meteorological knowledge is overshadowed by crappy looking cartoonish graphics and other nonsense such as the naming of winter storms. They also run an excessive amount of shows to the point where you can hardly turn it on anymore for a quick forecast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Then I stand corrected. As people that work in the field, I will differ to your opinions regarding his level of expertise. I just feel as in an attempt to capture a larger audiance, The Weather Channel has "dummed" down its programming and become so commercialized that any glimpse of meteorological knowledge is overshadowed by crappy looking cartoonish graphics and other nonsense such as the naming of winter storms. They also run an excessive amount of shows to the point where you can hardly turn it on anymore for a quick forecast. I don't think many of us will disagree with you here...they have definitely become dumbed down. But it's not an indictment on Jim Cantore's weather knowledge. He's always been one of the more well-rounded meteorologists on TWC. One of the few good decisions they have made in the past decade was keeping him there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 You don't become that passionate about meteorology without knowing a little something. I think that goes for many mets on here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Raining hard at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Then I stand corrected. As people that work in the field, I will differ to your opinions regarding his level of expertise. I just feel as in an attempt to capture a larger audiance, The Weather Channel has "dummed" down its programming and become so commercialized that any glimpse of meteorological knowledge is overshadowed by crappy looking cartoonish graphics and other nonsense such as the naming of winter storms. They also run an excessive amount of shows to the point where you can hardly turn it on anymore for a quick forecast. honestly for a quick local forecast, my cable system runs a traffic and weather loop that runs continuously...I'm sure things like that have cut into their audience and they've tried to go other routes (morning show that mimmicks the today show, movies, silly reality shows etc) to get the ratings back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstorm Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 honestly for a quick local forecast, my cable system runs a traffic and weather loop that runs continuously...I'm sure things like that have cut into their audience and they've tried to go other routes (morning show that mimmicks the today show, movies, silly reality shows etc) to get the ratings back... They are getting killed in the ratings dept and have been losing share for years. When I used to work there, the debate was often whether TV ratings would be better off with just continuous weather coverage vs. the barrage of awful reality/storm chasing shows they tinker with. They are winning in the digital department, though. Their mobile app is far and away #1 and they are a top 10 destination on the web. That drives massive advertising revenues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I will say that when a major weather event is occuring, such as a winter storm or a landfalling tropical system or a severe weather outbreak, I still enjoy watching. Outside of that, no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Kart Mozart Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Did all our satellites crash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dryslot Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 10301369_10152301584485870_2871677509604477011_n.png ASOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowMan Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 10301369_10152301584485870_2871677509604477011_n.pngWish I was in the 5-6 range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 why can't I have any orange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MainePhotog Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Wish I was in the 5-6 range I'll tell you all about it once my basement is pumped dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Wish I was in the 5-6 range I'll tell you all about it once my basement is pumped dry. Why anyone would want all this water is beyond me, If it was white most definitely........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 What a fine looking Oct day, beautiful cobalt tropical blue sky interspersed with CU and fall foliage. Hard to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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