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My vp2 battery died again yesterday...I guess I did miss more rain than I thought.

1.02" in the manual gauge. Probably 1.03" if I could squeegee the condensation off the inside of the tube.

i wish i had the manual out...i wonder how much i lost during those heavy rates
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BTV rainfall totals...although I notice some of these, especially the CoCoRAHS stations are missing yesterday morning's rain prior to 7am (ie SW Stowe had 0.2" prior to the 0.66").


PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
SPOTTER REPORTS
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BURLINGTON VT
1056 AM EDT FRI OCT 17 2014

THE FOLLOWING ARE UNOFFICIAL OBSERVATIONS TAKEN DURING THE PAST 34
HOURS FOR THE STORM THAT HAS BEEN AFFECTING OUR REGION. APPRECIATION
IS EXTENDED TO HIGHWAY DEPARTMENTS...COOPERATIVE AND COCORAHS
OBSERVERS...SKYWARN SPOTTERS AND MEDIA FOR THESE REPORTS. THIS
SUMMARY IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON OUR HOME PAGE AT WEATHER.GOV/BURLINGTON

********************STORM TOTAL RAINFALL********************

LOCATION          STORM TOTAL     TIME/DATE   COMMENTS
                     RAINFALL           OF
                     /INCHES/   MEASUREMENT

NEW YORK

...CLINTON COUNTY...
   PLATTSBURGH INTL AIR  0.59   830 AM 10/17  ASOS
   CHATEAUGAY LAKE       0.50   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   1 S PLATTSBURGH 1 S   0.45   700 AM 10/17  CO-OP OBSERVER
   BEEKMANTOWN           0.43   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   4 ESE PERU            0.42   600 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   DANNEMORA             0.40   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   ELLENBURG DEPOT       0.26   700 AM 10/17  MESONET

...ESSEX COUNTY...
   MOIRA                 1.66   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   KEENE VALLEY          1.47   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   1 S TICONDEROGA       1.29   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   3 W NEWCOMB           0.83   800 AM 10/17  CO-OP OBSERVER

...FRANKLIN COUNTY...
   TUPPER LAKE           0.61   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   2 N WAWBEEK           0.46   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   SARANAC LAKE ARPT     0.35   830 AM 10/17  ASOS
   1 SW MALONE           0.33   700 AM 10/17  CO-OP OBSERVER

...ST. LAWRENCE COUNTY...
   CANTON                1.19   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   WEST POTSDAM          1.01   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   3 NW GOUVERNEUR       0.86   700 AM 10/17  CO-OP OBSERVER
   GOUVERNEUR            0.83   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   4 NE OGDENSBURG       0.70   800 AM 10/17  CO-OP OBSERVER
   POTSDAM               0.63   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   6 NE POTSDAM          0.58   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   MASSENA AIRPORT       0.52   830 AM 10/17  ASOS
   2 NW MASSENA          0.42   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   HAMMOND               0.38   700 AM 10/17  MESONET

VERMONT

...ADDISON COUNTY...
   VERGENNES             1.67   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   MIDDLEBURY COLLEGE    1.54   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   LINCOLN               1.19   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   MONKTON               1.19   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   WALTHAM               1.19   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   1 S BRISTOL           1.08   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   BRISTOL               1.07   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   FERRISBURG            0.98   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   4 SE STARKSBORO       0.83   700 AM 10/17  MESONET

...CALEDONIA COUNTY...
   4 WSW GROTON          1.33   600 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   ENE HARDWICK          1.30   500 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   EAST BURKE            0.93   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   2 SW SUTTON           0.88   800 AM 10/17  CO-OP OBSERVER
   WATERFORD             0.83   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   4 N WALDEN            0.82   700 AM 10/17  CO-OP OBSERVER
   WHEELOCK              0.76   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   2 NE SUTTON           0.73   700 AM 10/17  CO-OP OBSERVER
   ST JOHNSBURY MUSEUM   0.71   830 AM 10/17  ASOS
   PEACHAM               0.69   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   3 NNW SHEFFIELD       0.66   630 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   1 SW PASSUMPSIC       0.52   800 AM 10/17  CO-OP OBSERVER

...CHITTENDEN COUNTY...
   BOLTON                1.23   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   BURLINGTON INTL ARPT  1.12   830 AM 10/17  ASOS
   HINESBURG             1.08   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   1 E NASHVILLE         0.95   645 AM 10/17  NWS EMPLOYEE
   2 NW WESTFORD         0.74   800 AM 10/17  MESONET
   4 NNE UNDERHILL       0.74   800 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   HUNTINGTON            0.72   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   COLCHESTER            0.71   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   3 SSE RICHMOND        0.70   700 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   MILTON                0.69   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   5 NNE UNDERHILL       0.66   600 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   1 NNE HUNTINGTON      0.64   800 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   UNDERHILL             0.62   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   5 NW COLCHESTER       0.61   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   2 S JERICHO           0.60   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   W BURLINGTON          0.52   930 AM 10/17  COCORAHS

...ESSEX COUNTY...
   LUNENBURG             1.53   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   GALLUP MILLS          1.40   800 AM 10/17  CO-OP OBSERVER
   EAST HAVEN            1.27   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   GILMAN                1.19   600 AM 10/17  CO-OP OBSERVER
   ISLAND POND AIRPORT   1.02   800 AM 10/17  CO-OP OBSERVER
   1 ENE AVERILL         0.83   800 AM 10/17  CO-OP OBSERVER

...FRANKLIN COUNTY...
   FAIRFAX               0.62   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   GEORGIA               0.48   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   2 NNE ST. ALBANS      0.35   700 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   5 SSE SWANTON         0.34   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   MAQUAM SHORE SWANTON  0.27   700 AM 10/17  MESONET

...GRANDISLE COUNTY...
   ALBURGH               0.43   700 AM 10/17  MESONET

...LAMOILLE COUNTY...
   5 N JEFFERSONVILLE    1.00   730 AM 10/17  CO-OP OBSERVER
   STOWE                 0.95   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   3 SSE STOWE           0.92   700 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   MORRISVILLE           0.90   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   3 NE HYDE PARK        0.69   645 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   MORRISVILLE ARPT      0.68   830 AM 10/17  ASOS
   SW STOWE              0.66   646 AM 10/17  COCORAHS

...ORANGE COUNTY...
   CORINTH               1.41   700 AM 10/17  CO-OP OBSERVER
   BRADFORD              1.15   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   3 SW BRAINTREE        1.05   545 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   UNION VILLAGE DAM     1.02   700 AM 10/17  CO-OP OBSERVER
   NEWBURY               0.92   700 AM 10/17  MESONET

...ORLEANS COUNTY...
   2 NNW GREENSBORO      0.89   700 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   2 NNE GREENSBORO      0.84   920 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   7 SE MORGAN           0.79   745 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   1 WNW WESTFIELD       0.62   630 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   3 ENE BARTON          0.53   700 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   2 NW DERBY CENTER     0.47   700 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   NEWPORT               0.44   700 AM 10/17  CO-OP OBSERVER
   WESTFIELD             0.44   700 AM 10/17  MESONET

...RUTLAND COUNTY...
   WEST RUTLAND          1.73   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   BOMOSEEN              1.68   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   POULTNEY              1.51   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   1 N RUTLAND           1.45   700 AM 10/17  CO-OP OBSERVER
   DANBY                 1.27   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   SHREWSBURY            1.25   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   EAST WALLINGFORD      1.17   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   1 N WEST RUTLAND      1.12   815 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   2 SSE PITTSFORD       0.95   749 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   WEST PAWLET           0.64   700 AM 10/17  MESONET

...WASHINGTON COUNTY...
   1 N NORTHFIELD        1.68   700 AM 10/17  CO-OP OBSERVER
   3 NW WATERBURY        1.26   600 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   3 NE WATERBURY        0.97   730 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   2 SW EAST CALAIS      0.91   700 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   WATERBURY CENTER      0.91   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   MARSHFIELD            0.89   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   2 SE WAITSFIELD       0.86   700 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   4 WNW BERLIN          0.86   700 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   FAYSTON               0.83   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   KNAPP STATE ARPT      0.82   830 AM 10/17  ASOS
   PLAINFIELD            0.77   700 AM 10/17  CO-OP OBSERVER
   2 E CABOT             0.75   600 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   MONTPELIER            0.72   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   5 NNE WATERBURY       0.70   700 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   2 SW MONTPELIER       0.70   700 AM 10/17  CO-OP OBSERVER
   7 NE MIDDLESEX        0.56   630 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   2 W WORCESTER         0.50   700 AM 10/17  CO-OP OBSERVER

...WINDSOR COUNTY...
   CHESTER               1.91   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   LAKE RESCUE           1.68   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   WOODSTOCK             1.26   800 AM 10/17  CO-OP OBSERVER
   4 N BETHEL            1.03   700 AM 10/17  CO-OP OBSERVER
   WESTON                0.97   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   SPRINGFIELD           0.95   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   SPRINGFIELD ARPT      0.91   830 AM 10/17  ASOS
   2 SE SHARON           0.84   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   SOUTH POMFRET         0.81   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   NORWICH               0.79   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   WEATHERSFIELD         0.77   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   2 NNE NORWICH         0.70   700 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   N HARTLAND RES        0.69   700 AM 10/17  CO-OP OBSERVER
   3 N POMFRET           0.64   700 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   3 S LUDLOW            0.64   700 AM 10/17  COCORAHS
   CAVENDISH             0.60   700 AM 10/17  MESONET
   1 WSW LUDLOW          0.56   700 AM 10/17  COCORAHS

$$

LAHIFF
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Short term /7 am Saturday morning through Sunday night/... as of 346 PM EDT Friday...aforementioned shortwave energy and attending surface cold front shift into the forecast area Saturday with widespread rainfall expected through the day. Precipitation becomes more orographic in nature as the front shifts through Saturday night with forecast Froude numbers supporting slightly blocked flow. Mean 925-850mb temperatures crash below 0c supporting ptype changing from rain to snow across the higher elevations above 1500 feet with a dusting to possibly a couple of inches of accumulation across the highest peaks by Sunday morning.

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How much snow you forecasting for your NW flow areas of NNH? ;)

 

I've been playing around with the grids so far tonight. I conservatively have MWN with 2". The hi-res models have quite a bit of QPF in the high terrain (as usual probably overdone) and turn them over to snow pretty quickly. Soundings suggest a little warm nose might glaze the highest peaks as the mid levels crash quickly.

 

Wouldn't be shocked to see johnsnhweather.com with some snow on the webcams.

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I've been playing around with the grids so far tonight. I conservatively have MWN with 2". The hi-res models have quite a bit of QPF in the high terrain (as usual probably overdone) and turn them over to snow pretty quickly. Soundings suggest a little warm nose might glaze the highest peaks as the mid levels crash quickly.

Wouldn't be shocked to see johnsnhweather.com with some snow on the webcams.

Yeah the hi-res are almost always overdone on these...especially in these quick hitting events (ie duration of moisture/flow combo under 6-8 hours). There's even a 0.5"< bubble on Mansfield's east slope after 6z Sunday, and I could see more like 0.1-0.2" type deal after the snow profile moves in. Not a half inch QPF.

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Lot of upsetting posts being made today.

 

This summer seemed so boring and average and unsatisfying.  Other than that bow echo on July 4th, it was just meh after meh.

 

At some point you have to just let it go, Soon Paugus Bay water temps will migrate there way down to the 40's and it will be over, Embrace it

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I've been playing around with the grids so far tonight. I conservatively have MWN with 2". The hi-res models have quite a bit of QPF in the high terrain (as usual probably overdone) and turn them over to snow pretty quickly. Soundings suggest a little warm nose might glaze the highest peaks as the mid levels crash quickly.

 

Wouldn't be shocked to see johnsnhweather.com with some snow on the webcams.

 

Pittsburgh FTW, What a weenie spot

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For the GYX CWA that place takes the cake.

NW flow FTW lol, bet some of the houses around Jay Peak are white too. I'm looking to see snow on Sunday morning as well.

Yeah you will see some there no doubt, Tis the season for the elevated areas only to lower over the next 6-8 weeks up this way

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For the GYX CWA that place takes the cake.

NW flow FTW lol, bet some of the houses around Jay Peak are white too. I'm looking to see snow on Sunday morning as well.

 

To that point, I just spent the last 15 minutes researching the exact location of the PWS up there.

 

What a weenie spot. Just above 2000 feet, far enough north that the Greens don't rob moisture on a west wind, perfectly set up for a NW upslope. He has terrain to his N and W, but it is all around his elevation so he doesn't really downslope significantly.

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To that point, I just spent the last 15 minutes researching the exact location of the PWS up there.

 

What a weenie spot. Just above 2000 feet, far enough north that the Greens don't rob moisture on a west wind, perfectly set up for a NW upslope. He has terrain to his N and W, but it is all around his elevation so he doesn't really downslope significantly.

The one on Stewart young road?  I've gone up there... that road is steeper than any part of the MWN auto road.   

 

I really want to get a Davis on that large clearing between the first and second CT lakes along magalloway road. That area must radiate like mad.

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The one on Stewart young road?  I've gone up there... that road is steeper than any part of the MWN auto road.   

 

I really want to get a Davis on that large clearing between the first and second CT lakes along magalloway road. That area must radiate like mad.

 

That's the one. Over 200 feet in less than a quarter mile heading up that road before the first turn.

 

I can only imagine some of the temp differences that set up there because of the elevation changes. Magalloway Road as you say looks like a prime cold pit where it crosses the Connecticut.

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That's the one. Over 200 feet in less than a quarter mile heading up that road before the first turn.

I can only imagine some of the temp differences that set up there because of the elevation changes. Magalloway Road as you say looks like a prime cold pit where it crosses the Connecticut.

The terrain in that whole area, extended towards Sutton, VT or Gallup Mills, Island Pond, etc, is perfect for that cold bowl effect. Pretty high average elevation of 1,500ft or so, but surrounded by 2-3,000ft elevations. They are perfect radiating spots, like SLK style pits in an overall higher elevation terrain base..
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