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The Official 2014 Fall Discussion Thread


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Still looking like an extended period of unsettled weather upcoming for parts of the Carolinas:

 

RAH HWO:

 

HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE RALEIGH NC

332 PM EDT WED SEP 10 2014

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332 PM EDT WED SEP 10 2014

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR CENTRAL NORTH CAROLINA.

.DAY ONE...THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT.

HAZARDOUS WEATHER IS NOT EXPECTED AT THIS TIME.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY.

A PERIOD OF WET WEATHER IS EXPECTED FRIDAY THROUGH THE

WEEKEND...AND PERHAPS INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. MULTIPLE ROUNDS OF

RAIN DURING THIS TIME MAY RESULT IN LOCALIZED FLOODING OF SMALL

STREAMS AND CREEKS AND POOR DRAINAGE AREAS.

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...

SPOTTER ACTIVATION IS NOT EXPECTED AT THIS TIME.

 

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That's a healthy amount there, Downeast. There will definitely be some flooding concerns if that pans out. Of course, I would expect Mack's area to get shaved out of there as time draws near...so no flooding concerns there. :)

You can't miss the part about upstate SC being cut off. That "WILL" happen and get me and Mack leaving us with .50 at best.

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Gotcha Falls! :)

RAH

SHORT TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY/...

AS OF 330 AM THURSDAY...

...UNSETTLED WEATHER THROUGH THE WEEKEND AND POSSIBLY EXTENDING

THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK...

FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY: VERY COMPLEX SURFACE PATTERN LOOKS TO

EVOLVE THIS WEEKEND AS A COMPACT BUT RATHER STOUT SHORTWAVE TROUGH

TRAVERSES THE GREAT LAKES AND THE NORTHEAST US SATURDAY AND SATURDAY

NIGHT. ATTENDANT TRAILING SFC COLD FRONT WITH EMBEDDED WAVES OF LOW

PRESSURE WILL APPROACH FROM THE NORTHWEST LATE FRIDAY NIGHT/SATURDAY

MORNING AS THE OLD FRONTAL ZONE AND EMBEDDED AXIS OF +2.0 PWATS

LINGER ALONG THE NC/SC COAST.

SIGNIFICANT MODEL DIFFERENCES QUICKLY ARISE...AS THE WETTER EC...

WITH ITS STRONGER NORTHERN STREAM TROUGH...LIFTS THE FRONT NORTH AS

A WARM FRONT FRIDAY NIGHT IN ADVANCE OF THE NORTHERN STREAM FRONT

PASSAGE SATURDAY EVENING/SATURDAY NIGHT. THE DRIER GFS WHICH IS NOT

AS STRONG WITH THE NORTHERN STREAM TROUGH...KEEPS THE FRONT ALONG

THE COAST SOUTH/EAST OF THE AREA WITH NORTHERN STREAM FRONT

WEAKENING AS IT MOVES/MERGES INTO THE AREA. AS A RESULT...THE EC IS

MORE EQUITABLE WITH RAIN CHANCES/QPF FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY WHILE

THE SUPPRESSES THE BETTER RAIN CHANCES ACROSS THE SOUTH AND

SOUTHEAST. SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY...WHILE TAKING TWO

DIFFERENT ROUTES TO GET THERE...THE GFS AND EC ARE SURPRISING IN

GOOD AGREEMENT SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY WITH THE DEPICTION OF A

HYBRID DAMMING EVENT AS H8 SOUTHERLY FLOW ATOP THE FRONTAL ZONE

STALLED TO OUR SOUTH WILL RESULT IN OVERRUNNING PRECIP/RAIN AS NEAR

SURFACE NELY FLOW LOCKS IN COOL STABLE AIR IN PLACE. HIGH

TEMPERATURES ON SUNDAY COULD REMAIN IN THE 60S ALL DAY ACROSS MUCH

OF THE FORECAST AREA.

&&

.LONG TERM /SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY/...

AS OF 330 AM THURSDAY...

THE GFS REMAINS MORE PROGRESSIVE IN PUSHING THE FRONT EAST AND ALONG

THE COAST ON SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY...WITH DRIER AIR BUILDING INTO

THE AREA FROM THE WEST HELPING TO SCOUR OUT THE WEDGE AIRMASS.

MEANWHILE THE EC KEEPS THE WEDGE/DAMMING REGIME IN PLACE UNTIL THE

ARRIVAL OF A FRONTAL PASSAGE TUESDAY AFTERNOON/EVENING. WHILE

DIURNAL INSOLATION MAY SERVE TO WEAKEN THE WEDGE ENVIRONMENT....

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Gotcha Falls! :)

RAH

SHORT TERM /FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY/...

AS OF 330 AM THURSDAY...

...UNSETTLED WEATHER THROUGH THE WEEKEND AND POSSIBLY EXTENDING

THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK...

FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY: VERY COMPLEX SURFACE PATTERN LOOKS TO

EVOLVE THIS WEEKEND AS A COMPACT BUT RATHER STOUT SHORTWAVE TROUGH

TRAVERSES THE GREAT LAKES AND THE NORTHEAST US SATURDAY AND SATURDAY

NIGHT. ATTENDANT TRAILING SFC COLD FRONT WITH EMBEDDED WAVES OF LOW

PRESSURE WILL APPROACH FROM THE NORTHWEST LATE FRIDAY NIGHT/SATURDAY

MORNING AS THE OLD FRONTAL ZONE AND EMBEDDED AXIS OF +2.0 PWATS

LINGER ALONG THE NC/SC COAST.

SIGNIFICANT MODEL DIFFERENCES QUICKLY ARISE...AS THE WETTER EC...

WITH ITS STRONGER NORTHERN STREAM TROUGH...LIFTS THE FRONT NORTH AS

A WARM FRONT FRIDAY NIGHT IN ADVANCE OF THE NORTHERN STREAM FRONT

PASSAGE SATURDAY EVENING/SATURDAY NIGHT. THE DRIER GFS WHICH IS NOT

AS STRONG WITH THE NORTHERN STREAM TROUGH...KEEPS THE FRONT ALONG

THE COAST SOUTH/EAST OF THE AREA WITH NORTHERN STREAM FRONT

WEAKENING AS IT MOVES/MERGES INTO THE AREA. AS A RESULT...THE EC IS

MORE EQUITABLE WITH RAIN CHANCES/QPF FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY WHILE

THE SUPPRESSES THE BETTER RAIN CHANCES ACROSS THE SOUTH AND

SOUTHEAST. SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY...WHILE TAKING TWO

DIFFERENT ROUTES TO GET THERE...THE GFS AND EC ARE SURPRISING IN

GOOD AGREEMENT SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY WITH THE DEPICTION OF A

HYBRID DAMMING EVENT AS H8 SOUTHERLY FLOW ATOP THE FRONTAL ZONE

STALLED TO OUR SOUTH WILL RESULT IN OVERRUNNING PRECIP/RAIN AS NEAR

SURFACE NELY FLOW LOCKS IN COOL STABLE AIR IN PLACE. HIGH

TEMPERATURES ON SUNDAY COULD REMAIN IN THE 60S ALL DAY ACROSS MUCH

OF THE FORECAST AREA.

&&

.LONG TERM /SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY/...

AS OF 330 AM THURSDAY...

THE GFS REMAINS MORE PROGRESSIVE IN PUSHING THE FRONT EAST AND ALONG

THE COAST ON SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY...WITH DRIER AIR BUILDING INTO

THE AREA FROM THE WEST HELPING TO SCOUR OUT THE WEDGE AIRMASS.

MEANWHILE THE EC KEEPS THE WEDGE/DAMMING REGIME IN PLACE UNTIL THE

ARRIVAL OF A FRONTAL PASSAGE TUESDAY AFTERNOON/EVENING. WHILE

DIURNAL INSOLATION MAY SERVE TO WEAKEN THE WEDGE ENVIRONMENT....

I'm slipping; I'll getcha next time...... Man I'm really hoping for the dryer solution. It's been so darn rainy, cloudy, or just wet. I think I'm getting on Brick's bandwagon (..at least for a while). ***we even have(had) a chance to see the Northern Lights either tonight or tomorrow night because of an expected solar storm (earth facing sun spot sent out a large flare yesterday). But no, it's going to be cloudy....    

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I'm slipping; I'll getcha next time...... Man I'm really hoping for the dryer solution. It's been so darn rainy, cloudy, or just wet. I think I'm getting on Brick's bandwagon (..at least for a while). ***we even have(had) a chance to see the Northern Lights either tonight or tomorrow night because of an expected solar storm (earth facing sun spot sent out a large flare yesterday). But no, it's going to be cloudy....    

 

We would be able to see them down here?  Must be one heck of a solar storm!!

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The Northern Lights were seen in SC in March of 1989. I remember the night very well. 

 

They were also visible here during late fall about 7 or 8 years ago (cant remember the exact year).  they were green and reddish.

 

 

 

Earliest Snowfall on record today in South Dakota: Lucky Dogs!

 

http://www.argusleader.com/story/news/crime/2014/09/11/inches-possible-black-hills/15434275/

 

Denver as well http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/26507966/summer-snow-covers-ground-in-denver

 

yay, lets hope this is a good omen lol

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They were also visible here during late fall about 7 or 8 years ago (cant remember the exact year).  they were green and reddish.

 

 

 

 

Denver as well http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/26507966/summer-snow-covers-ground-in-denver

 

yay, lets hope this is a good omen lol

 

 Actually, that writer is wrong. There has yet to be snow in Denver. It has been rainy with mid 40's. Those shots are of much higher elevations, where there was snow. However, tonight Denver may get snow. Maybe that writer was writing his/her story for tomorrow lol.

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^ The NAM was actually pretty decent with the last event.

Yeah, this looks exactly right! About the lightest green on the map is right over my house! Either we get the screw jobs over before winter, or just keep em coming til March, I'll go with the latter! Atleast cooler weather looks to be here by Sunday, but I'm sure that will change by then, Shetley out!
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Yeah, this looks exactly right! About the lightest green on the map is right over my house! Either we get the screw jobs over before winter, or just keep em coming til March, I'll go with the latter! Atleast cooler weather looks to be here by Sunday, but I'm sure that will change by then, Shetley out!

 

GFS says keep your umbrella on you...the 0z Euro was kind of in the middle of the NAM and GFS...

 

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Yeah, this looks exactly right! About the lightest green on the map is right over my house! Either we get the screw jobs over before winter, or just keep em coming til March, I'll go with the latter! Atleast cooler weather looks to be here by Sunday, but I'm sure that will change by then, Shetley out!

Haha! The GFS is your friend. I don't know if that's the best friend to have, though.

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