LithiaWx Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Wrong and wrong. 10/12/1979 - 90F. I am not sure where you are getting that information but the official high on that date for KATL isn't 90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreezeWarning1 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I am not sure where you are getting that information but the official high on that date for KATL isn't 90. The high reported at KATL was 90F. The poster GaWx didn't say the official high reported at the COOP station, which is what you're referring too. If he meant the official high, he should have said it. And I got my data from the State Climate Office of NC. The temperature reached 90F at KATL at 16:00 on 10/12/1979. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiaWx Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 The high reported at KATL was 90F. The poster GaWx didn't say the official high reported at the COOP station, which is what you're referring too. If he meant the official high, he should have said it. And I got my data from the State Climate Office of NC. The temperature reached 90F at KATL at 16:00 on 10/12/1979. KATL - Hartsfield which is what he was talking about was 81 on that date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 KATL - Hartsfield which is what he was talking about was 81 on that date. Yep...as a matter of fact, he said this: "sorry, Tony, I'm looking at the beloved airport again". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Somebody check that IP address ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreezeWarning1 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 KATL - Hartsfield which is what he was talking about was 81 on that date. GHCND_USW00013874_1979-10-1.pdf I think you're confused by what I'm saying. The official NWS highs are reported from co-located COOP stations, in this case COOP station 090451. You are correct that this station reported a high of 81. However, the actual ASOS sensor at KATL reported a high of 90F. If someone can direct me on how to upload an image I can show you because I have a screenshot of the data. Edit: Nevermind, figured it out. Sorry about the large size. The first image is the ASOS data and the second image is the COOP data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiaWx Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I think you're confused by what I'm saying. The official NWS highs are reported from co-located COOP stations, in this case COOP station 090451. You are correct that this station reported a high of 81. However, the actual ASOS sensor at KATL reported a high of 90F. If someone can direct me on how to upload an image I can show you because I have a screenshot of the data. Edit: Nevermind, figured it out. Sorry about the large size. I don't buy a 9 degree difference in what you are describing. I am going to take the Climate data I linked as the most reliable source available. If you can prove your assertion in a similar way that I did I would be glad to look at any reliable information you can provide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreezeWarning1 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I don't buy a 9 degree difference in what you are describing. I am going to take the Climate data I linked as the most reliable source available. If you can prove your assertion in a similar way that I did I would be glad to look at any reliable information you can provide. I provided the data for your analysis. Since GaWx said KATL the actual ASOS sensor measured a high of 90F in October most recently on 10/12/1979 not 1954. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiaWx Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I provided the data for your analysis. Since GaWx said KATL the actual ASOS sensor measured a high of 90F in October most recently on 10/12/1979 not 1954. What does QC1 mean next to that reading? Also do you believe the temperature went from 80 at 3:00PM to 90 at 4:00PM and then back down to 79 at 5:00PM? Something is wrong with that reading and I have a feeling QC1 will tell us what that was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreezeWarning1 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 What does QC1 mean next to that reading? Also do you believe the temperature went from 80 at 3:00PM to 90 at 4:00PM and then back down to 79 at 5:00PM? Something is wrong with that reading and I have a feeling QC1 will tell us what that was. It was likely flagged for what you mentioned, but clouds or any number of things could have affected the reading. Regardless, that's what the sensor measured - you can see I'm not making it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiaWx Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 It was likely flagged for what you mentioned, but clouds or any number of things could have affected the reading. Regardless, that's what the sensor measured - you can see I'm not making it up. I don't think you are making stuff up but even an amateur weather enthusiast would know the temp isn't going to fluctuate that much in such a short period of time in mid October with no rain. The official reading is 81, the NCDC doesn't buy the 90 reading and neither do I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowless in Carrollton Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 What does QC1 mean next to that reading? Also do you believe the temperature went from 80 at 3:00PM to 90 at 4:00PM and then back down to 79 at 5:00PM? Something is wrong with that reading and I have a feeling QC1 will tell us what that was. That is impossible for temps to go from 80 to 90 to 79 in a span of 2 hours in Mid October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowless in Carrollton Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I don't think you are making stuff up but even an amateur weather enthusiast would know the temp isn't going to fluctuate that much in such a short period of time in mid October with no rain. The official reading is 81, the NCDC doesn't buy the 90 reading and neither do I. I checked wunderground and it shows that Atlanta was at 90 degrees at 5pm, not 4pm. Which would make it seem even more unlikely. 5pm is way past peak heating in Mid October. Also, the skies were clear that day. It was obviously an error. I checked Birmingham's weather that day and their high was 83 at 3pm. Jacksonville, FL's high was 82 that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallsLake Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 You can tell when the weather is boring on the type of things being discussed here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isopycnic Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 You can tell when the weather is boring on the type of things being discussed here. I was under the opinion that it gets to 90f on the reg in Hotlanta, Waycross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I was under the opinion that it gets to 90f on the reg in Hotlanta, Waycross. That's the record low, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Level 1 is a validity check Level 2 checks for internal consistency, temporal consistency, and statistical spatial consistency Level 3 checks for spatial consistency. http://madis.noaa.gov/madis_surface_qc.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallsLake Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 While we're in a boring pattern, we can at least track the progress of the NH snow cover. As others have stated this is very important to the establishment of a favorable (future) winter pattern. Currently snow cover looks about like it did last year at this time: http://www.natice.noaa.gov/ims/ (and)The 6z GFS does show a good snow build up over Canada during the next two weeks: http://www.twisterdata.com/index.php?prog=forecast&model=GFS&grid=3&model_yyyy=2014&model_mm=09&model_dd=25&model_init_hh=06&fhour=288¶meter=SNOWIN&level=SURFACE&unit=none&maximize=n&mode=singlemap&sounding=n&output=image&view=large&archive=false Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiaWx Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 While we're in a boring pattern, we can at least track the progress of the NH snow cover. As others have stated this is very important to the establishment of a favorable (future) winter pattern. Currently snow cover looks about like it did last year at this time: http://www.natice.noaa.gov/ims/ (and)The 6z GFS does show a good snow build up over Canada during the next two weeks: http://www.twisterdata.com/index.php?prog=forecast&model=GFS&grid=3&model_yyyy=2014&model_mm=09&model_dd=25&model_init_hh=06&fhour=288¶meter=SNOWIN&level=SURFACE&unit=none&maximize=n&mode=singlemap&sounding=n&output=image&view=large&archive=false The correlation I believe is tied to Eurasian snow cover in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 So, is it still gonna be raining Monday and Tuesday from a low coming out of the gulf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 http://www.daculaweather.com/4_snow_analysis.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculus1 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Wrong and wrong. 10/12/1979 - 90F. The high reported at KATL was 90F. The poster GaWx didn't say the official high reported at the COOP station, which is what you're referring too. If he meant the official high, he should have said it. And I got my data from the State Climate Office of NC. The temperature reached 90F at KATL at 16:00 on 10/12/1979. I'm all for respectful disagreement and discussion, but you didn't really begin with either of those things. Having some of your first posts come across so confrontational won't do much to win over the crowd to your point of view, either here on this weather board or many places outside of cyberspace. I think you realized that yourself, as your later posts toned it down a notch and actually showed some reasoning. So, welcome to the board, FreezeWarning1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 I'm all for respectful disagreement and discussion, but you didn't really begin with either of those things. Having some of your first posts come across so confrontational won't do much to win over the crowd to your point of view, either here on this weather board or many places outside of cyberspace. I think you realized that yourself, as your later posts toned it down a notch and actually showed some reasoning. So, welcome to the board, FreezeWarning1. Too late. He's done. IP matched 5 other members including one who was banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiaWx Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Too late. He's done. IP matched 5 other members including one who was banned. BriarCreekwx? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Somebody check that IP address ! Bingo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marion_NC_WX Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 So, is it still gonna be raining Monday and Tuesday from a low coming out of the gulf? Yeah the models still have the upper low develop and slowly move east. The GFS kinda trended closer to the Gulf Coast on its QPF but Euro still has a really good synoptic look so I still think this could be significant . I also think it will be more of a cold season type rain event as another wedge will be in place over the Carolinas at the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 BriarCreekwx? WXmaestro, 1300m, Moonhowl, Zelr and raleighwestjeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 WXmaestro, 1300m, Moonhowl, Zelr and raleighwestjeff Awesome! You could just tell by the first post on the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallsLake Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 The correlation I believe is tied to Eurasian snow cover in particular.That's right.. So here's to the Russians/Siberians freezing their butts off now, for our enjoyment this winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiaWx Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 That's right.. So here's to the Russians/Siberians freezing their butts off now, for our enjoyment this winter. Lots of great information here : http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/44473-and-we-begin/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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