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Fall 2014 Banter Thread


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If we dont get snow around turkey day im willing to bet they're wont be snow until deep into december, like 15-20th IMO. weenies are gonna be makin' those bridge jumps if a snowstorm doesnt occur until after december 15-20th :lol:

and the main threads here will turn into more of a disaster then they already are - then when we get a legit threat the main storm  threads will become unreadable because of all the wishcasting - banter - forum thread hogs - and other nonsense that goes on - just read through the pinned November 2014 thread - most annoying posts are from the posters who only occasionally contribute any posts with their opinion on the current or longer range weather BUT attack other posters for no good reason calling them weeniies - saying they should be banned - etc etc ..........I do have to say though that the 2 contest threads I started lack any of the nonsense...thanks

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and the main threads here will turn into more of a disaster then they already are - then when we get a legit threat the main storm threads will become unreadable because of all the wishcasting - banter - forum thread hogs - and other nonsense that goes on - just read through the pinned November 2014 thread - most annoying posts are from the posters who only occasionally contribute any posts with their opinion on the current or longer range weather BUT attack other posters for no good reason calling them weeniies - saying they should be banned - etc etc ..........I do have to say though that the 2 contest threads I started lack any of the nonsense...thanks

Think the post qaulity will be more strictly enforced in here than last year. I know jm1220 was overwhelmed during many of last years storms with pages of banter in the storm threads with the occasional meteorlogically relevant stuff sprinkled in there

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Feel good story from buffalo. If this doesnt bring a smile to your face dont know what will:

BUFFALO, N.Y. (WIVB) – A woman from south Buffalo went into labor early Tuesday. She had only one obstacle to overcome — the trip to the hospital.

After Bethany Hojnacki’s husband Jared dropped off their son with his grandparents, he turned around to head towards a place where Bethany could have her child. On the way, Jared stopped to help a woman get out of her car.

That woman turned out to be a pediatric nurse. So when plans to get to the hospital failed, and the Hojnacki’s wound up in labor at a fire hall in south Buffalo, the woman they helped with a random act of kindness was able to help them out.

She and the Hojnacki’s successfully delivered baby Lucy Grace Hojnacki just after 9:30 in the evening.

“Talk about a god send,” Jared Hojnacki’s father said. “She’s a pediatric nurse but she did do labor and delivery at one time.”

The baby is safe. Lucy and Bethany were transported to Mercy Hospital after the delivery.

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Impressive amount of total WE from this LES event.  I've seen figures of 3".  That's a lot of juice from a lake. 

 

Question: Which is more snow to move, the 30" we had a couple of years ago with almost 4" WE or 70" with 3" WE?

 

While we are attempting the difficult important questions, which is heaver, a pound of feathers or a pound of lead?

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There is nothing wrong with being a weenie to a certain degree, just embrace it instead of deflecting it.

 

I don't post much because I prefer to let the people who really know what they are talking about do the analysis though I do have my own ideas and conclusions drawn regarding potential patterns and what not too. Reiterating what is already being said and "cautioning the weenies" is probably just as annoying as ultra weenie behavior to be honest. Just some friendly advice from a predominant lurker. :)

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I know it's a perilous situation out there, but man, I'd love to experience something like that—neck-high snow accumulations over the course of a day or two. Hopefully for every person adversely affected by this LES event, there are three disaster-savvy weenies having the time of their lives.

I'm not sure I would. I mean if you have 5 feet of snow with 2-3 more on the way thats becoming a life and death situation

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Impressive amount of total WE from this LES event.  I've seen figures of 3".  That's a lot of juice from a lake. 

 

Question: Which is more snow to move, the 30" we had a couple of years ago with almost 4" WE or 70" with 3" WE?

 

While we are attempting the difficult important questions, which is heaver, a pound of feathers or a pound of lead?

 

The 4" WE snow weighed more ;)

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Highest report is actually *only* 65".

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/data/BUF/PNSBUF

382 NOUS41 KBUF 191537PNSBUFNYZ001>008-010>014-019>021-085-200337-PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENTSPOTTER REPORTSNATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BUFFALO NY1037 AM EST WED NOV 19 2014********************STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL********************LOCATION          STORM TOTAL     TIME/DATE   COMMENTS                                        SNOWFALL           OF                      /INCHES/   MEASUREMENTNEW YORK...ALLEGANY COUNTY...   RUSHFORD               1.2   630 AM 11/19  COOP OBSERVER           ...CATTARAUGUS COUNTY...   LITTLE VALLEY          1.5   700 AM 11/19  COOP OBSERVER              5 N ALLEGANY           1.4   700 AM 11/19  COCORAHS                ...CHAUTAUQUA COUNTY...   1 S DUNKIRK           18.7  1218 AM 11/19  COOP OBSERVER              DUNKIRK               13.0   600 AM 11/19  TRAINED SPOTTER            FREDONIA              13.0   800 AM 11/19  EMERGENCY MNGR             1 WNW FREDONIA         9.1   700 AM 11/19  COCORAHS                   4 SSW RIPLEY           4.1   700 AM 11/19  COCORAHS                   3 SSE FREWSBURG        2.5   700 AM 11/19  COCORAHS                   JAMESTOWN              1.2   700 AM 11/19  COOP OBSERVER           ...ERIE COUNTY...   4 S CHEEKTOWAGA       65.0  1004 AM 11/19  ESTIMATED                  LANCASTER             63.0   944 AM 11/19  NWS EMPLOYEE               GARDENVILLE           60.0   800 PM 11/18  TRAINED SPOTTER            WEST SENECA           57.0   800 PM 11/18  TRAINED SPOTTER            2 W WEST SENECA       51.0   700 AM 11/19  COCORAHS                   ELMA                  51.0   800 PM 11/18  TRAINED SPOTTER            ORCHARD PARK          48.0   800 PM 11/18  TRAINED SPOTTER            WALES CENTER          48.0   946 AM 11/19  TRAINED SPOTTER            1 N HAMBURG           48.0   905 AM 11/19  NWS EMPLOYEE               4 SSE BUFFALO         45.0   700 AM 11/19  COCORAHS                   2 SSW BLASDELL        44.0   700 AM 11/19  COCORAHS                   LACKAWANNA            42.0   900 AM 11/19  SOCIAL MEDIA               1 N LANCASTER         36.0   945 AM 11/19  TRAINED SPOTTER            2 N LANCASTER         25.0  1006 AM 11/19  NWS EMPLOYEE               2 S WALES CENTER      20.3   700 AM 11/19  COOP OBSERVER              1 W COLDEN            18.7   730 AM 11/19  COOP OBSERVER              2 S AKRON             17.5   700 AM 11/19  COCORAHS                   SLOAN                 16.0   800 PM 11/18  TRAINED SPOTTER            BOSTON                12.0   944 AM 11/19  TRAINED SPOTTER            2 NE BOSTON           10.0   700 AM 11/19  COCORAHS                   2 SE GLENWOOD          8.3   700 AM 11/19  COCORAHS                   CLARENCE               7.0   944 AM 11/19  TRAINED SPOTTER            NY BUFFALO INTL ARPT   6.2   650 AM 11/19  ASOS                       4 NE BUFFALO           6.2   800 AM 11/19  COOP OBSERVER              BUFFALO                6.0   945 AM 11/19  NORTHEAST SIDE             4 N BUFFALO            3.5   700 AM 11/19  COCORAHS                   KENMORE                3.0   800 PM 11/18  TRAINED SPOTTER            3 N CHEEKTOWAGA        2.0  1005 AM 11/19  SOCIAL MEDIA               7 N BUFFALO            1.5   700 AM 11/19  COCORAHS                   TONAWANDA              0.9   700 AM 11/19  COCORAHS                   EAST AMHERST           0.8   700 AM 11/19  COCORAHS                ...GENESEE COUNTY...   CORFU                 40.0   800 PM 11/18  TRAINED SPOTTER            DARIEN                36.0   830 PM 11/18  EMERGENCY MNGR             STAFFORD              11.7   700 AM 11/19  NWS EMPLOYEE            ...JEFFERSON COUNTY...   PHILADELPHIA          22.0  1002 AM 11/19  SOCIAL MEDIA               3 S THERESA           16.0   700 AM 11/19  COCORAHS                   5 SW CARTHAGE         13.5   700 AM 11/19  COCORAHS                   WATERTOWN             12.8   700 AM 11/19  COCORAHS                   1 S WATERTOWN          8.0  1058 PM 11/18  COCORAHS                ...LEWIS COUNTY...   BEAVER FALLS          16.0   700 AM 11/19  COCORAHS                   HARRISVILLE           15.0   700 AM 11/19  COCORAHS                   1 NW CONSTABLEVILLE    9.5   700 AM 11/19  COCORAHS                   HIGHMARKET             6.2   349 AM 11/19  COOP OBSERVER              PORT LEYDEN            6.0   445 AM 11/19  TRAINED SPOTTER            GLENFIELD              0.2   700 AM 11/19  COOP OBSERVER           ...LIVINGSTON COUNTY...   AVON                   4.4   809 AM 11/19  COOP OBSERVER              4 WSW DANSVILLE        1.9   700 AM 11/19  COCORAHS                   1 ENE DANSVILLE        0.3   700 AM 11/19  COCORAHS                ...MONROE COUNTY...   ROCHESTER INTL ARPT    3.1   650 AM 11/19  ASOS                    ...NIAGARA COUNTY...   NIAGARA FALLS          1.6   700 AM 11/19  COOP OBSERVER              1 NNE NORTH TONAWAND   0.5   700 AM 11/19  COCORAHS                ...ONTARIO COUNTY...   3 W GENEVA             1.3   700 AM 11/19  COOP OBSERVER           ...OSWEGO COUNTY...   8 NNW REDFIELD        16.0   700 AM 11/19  COCORAHS                   5 ESE OSWEGO           3.0   700 AM 11/19  COCORAHS                   BENNETTS BRIDGE        2.0   700 AM 11/19  COOP OBSERVER           ...WYOMING COUNTY...   WYOMING               23.6   700 AM 11/19  COOP OBSERVER              6 SW WARSAW           10.0   700 AM 11/19  COOP OBSERVER              3 N SILVER SPRINGS     3.0   700 AM 11/19  COOP OBSERVER           $$DK
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Anyone know what the record snow total from a lake effect snow event is? Obviously this seems like one of the top events if not number one.

Ive seen totals over 100" in the Tug Hill region off of Lake Ontario.

Here's a couple links to historic events.

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/weatherhistorian/lake-effect-snow-totals-and-historical-perspective

The NYS record is 10'7" in Montague, NY.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/12/nyregion/12snow.html

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