forkyfork Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 $500/year on largely redundant model graphics seems a little crazy. I bought a few months of weatherbell last winter and may do so again this year, but, truth be told, it's probably not worth the money. There are a million graphic sites for NCEP models, CMC and UKMET both have more-than-adequate free products online, and any ECMWF frame that's halfway worth looking at is posted and cross-posted to death.wunderground has euro precip maps that update as soon as the model comes out. there's no good reason for any amateur to pay for models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I have both StormVista & Weatherbell Premium for a total of $40/month and both are well worth it. great models that you have access to and sites are reliable Based on what I've seen, StormVista is worth it for the models, but the only *value* of WxBell is JB because the model output they offer seems... flawed... often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 i don't mean it as a slam on radio forecasters. we have so much information available on the internet and radio news listenership is declining http://stateofthemedia.org/2013/audio-digital-drives-listener-experience/audio-by-the-numbers/ I'm not surprised that TV news has maintained its advantage. I don't watch TV based news to "break" anything, just for added commentary and local twist. I also watch the evening national news, for the commentary and added depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 Based on what I've seen, StormVista is worth it for the models, but the only *value* of WxBell is JB because the model output they offer seems... flawed... often. WxBell is a better source for the Euro Ensembles, but I find that StormVista updates a lot faster. During the heart of the snow season I will sometimes carry both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Based on what I've seen, StormVista is worth it for the models, but the only *value* of WxBell is JB because the model output they offer seems... flawed... often.all those model images last winter that showed -10F lows across the metro. you'd think people would stop using them after being wrong so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 all those model images last winter that showed -10F lows across the metro. you'd think people would stop using them after being wrong so much Not if its what they want to see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Based on what I've seen, StormVista is worth it for the models, but the only *value* of WxBell is JB because the model output they offer seems... flawed... often. Last winter their snow maps were garbage on some of the models, possible the euro. I recall someone at WXbell came out with a written statment defending it too. No programming error or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WintersGrasp Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Last winter their snow maps were garbage on some of the models, possible the euro. I recall someone at WXbell came out with a written statment defending it too. No programming error or something But it was interesting that the crazy "snow pack" maps that they had last season for the Euro that seemed obviously overdone turned out to come true, eventually. The problem was that it consistently showed storms in the long range, with snow maps that made these storms all appear to be bombs that dumped 15-30" of snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 KCPK is in Virginia. KNYC is central park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 KCPK is in Virginia. KNYC is central park. Do the WxBell maps show CPK as Central Park? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Do the WxBell maps show CPK as Central Park? lol Only when the ratios are 15-1 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn510 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Somehow every discussion ends up with whether or not yanksfan lives in the nyc metro area and the avg snowfall there. Whether its eastern or american wx .nothing ever changes and also about the nam and snowfall maps. The nyc metro forum should become the groundhog day forum lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 Somehow every discussion ends up with whether or not yanksfan lives in the nyc metro area and the avg snowfall there. Whether its eastern or american wx .nothing ever changes and also about the nam and snowfall maps. The nyc metro forum should become the groundhog day forum lol.I purposely didn't use my location. Read more before you criticize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Well we know winter is around the corner when the attacks start coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Jesus Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Jesus Christ Not even he could save us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 What is it with people using pictures of mediocre cars as their avatars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Not even he could save us This is going to be a long long winter. Holy crap dude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 This is going to be a long long winter. Holy crap dude! Winter cancel.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Winter cancel.. I'm sticking with mostly obs and banter this year. I can't take it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I'm sticking with mostly obs and banter this year. I can't take it! I think we'll have to wait until december in ny for you to be totally sick of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I think we'll have to wait until december in ny for you to be totally sick of it. Up in sne, sure its possible in november, but i really think we have to wait till december. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Up in sne, sure its possible in november, but i really think we have to wait till december. Some nyc weenies are getting ahead of themselves, getting sick of this already, but up here in new england i can see it happening earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WintersGrasp Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Some nyc weenies are getting ahead of themselves, getting sick of this already, but up here in new england i can see it happening earlier. What happening earlier ? Do you know when my first snow will be here in northeast NJ? If so.....how much? I'd like to know. Please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Tis the season for all you Gloom and Doomers . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Certain people around here (i use the term around here loosely, some have traveled the internet highway to the sne forum ) complaining about "weenies" are akin to addicts who havent drank in 8 days going to an AA meeting and mocking the alcoholics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Certain people around here (i use the term around here loosely, some have traveled the internet highway to the sne forum ) complaining about "weenies" are akin to addicts who havent drank in 8 days going to an AA meeting and mocking the alcoholics. I migrated to that subforum! You seent me in there and are referring to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I migrated to that subforum! You seent me in there and are referring to me? Possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Possibly. I know it was i! not like im wrong i mean the winter cancels and what determines an epic winter for an individual in here is nothing short of LOL worthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Certain people around here (i use the term around here loosely, some have traveled the internet highway to the sne forum ) complaining about "weenies" are akin to addicts who havent drank in 8 days going to an AA meeting and mocking the alcoholics. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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