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Yep.  Looking for another underperformer.   Radar seems to indicate that we will be on the northern fringe.   Again and Again.....Unless something blossoms.   But the trend has not been our friend.

 

Well, I was WRONG!   Good.   Looks like the trough dug enough to drag that 2nd batch north and pick up the intensity of the low.  Standing at just over 1/2 an inch with more coming.   So maybe we do make .7 or in that neighborhood.

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.5" total, radar estimates are way off. The streak is still alive

 

 

Radar is off by -0.25" here, 32nm from KDIX.  

 

 

Our live chat on the NWS Mount Holly and twitter pages is starting at 1pm today. 

 

 

Cool idea.  Seems like a lot of work, though.  lol   I'm having trouble keeping up with just reading the questions and answers.  So well done.  I'm trying to think of a question, but yeah, can't come up with anything.  

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Radar is off by -0.25" here, 32nm from KDIX.  

 

 

 

 

Cool idea.  Seems like a lot of work, though.  lol   I'm having trouble keeping up with just reading the questions and answers.  So well done.  I'm trying to think of a question, but yeah, can't come up with anything.  

Thanks for the feedback. 

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This setup reminds me of a typical TOR potential setup.  Sure enough SPC mentions them, but not crazy.

 

...ERN NC THROUGH THE MID ATLANTIC AND SRN NEW ENGLAND...

   AS OF 12Z THIS MORNING A COLD FRONT EXTENDS FROM CNTRL PA SWD INTO
   CNTRL NC INTO ERN SC. A PRE-FRONTAL CONVECTIVELY MODIFIED BOUNDARY
   WAS OBSERVED SURGING EWD JUST AHEAD OF THE FRONT. RICH LOW-LEVEL
   MOISTURE /NEAR 70F DEWPOINTS/ HAS ADVECTED THROUGH THE MID-ATLANTIC
   PRE-FRONTAL WARM SECTOR...AND MID 60S F SFC DEWPOINTS EXIST AS FAR
   NORTH AS SRN NEW ENGLAND. DESPITE THE MOIST NEAR-SFC
   LAYER...INSTABILITY REMAINS VERY WEAK PRIMARILY DUE TO LACK OF
   PHASING BETWEEN THE COOLER AIR ASSOCIATED WITH THE UPPER-LOW
   CIRCULATION AND THE MOIST WARM SECTOR WHICH HAS RESULTED IN VERY
   WEAK /5-6 C/KM/ MID-LEVEL LAPSE RATES. MOREOVER...RAOB DATA INDICATE
   A DRY LAYER BETWEEN 700 AND 400 MB. THE VERY WEAK MID-LEVEL LAPSE
   RATES AND POSSIBLE MID-LEVEL DRY ENTRAINMENT SHOULD LIMIT THE
   POTENTIAL FOR ROBUST UPDRAFTS. MUCH OF THE CONVECTION THIS MORNING
   HAS BEEN ACCOMPANIED BY VERY LITTLE LIGHTNING.

   NEVERTHELESS...CONVECTION SHOULD CONTINUE DEVELOPING THIS MORNING
   INTO THE AFTERNOON FROM ERN NC THROUGH THE MID-ATLANTIC AND SRN NEW
   ENGLAND ALONG EWD ADVANCING FRONT AND PRE-FRONTAL BOUNDARY. WHILE
   STRONGER FLOW ALOFT WITHIN UPPER LOW CIRCULATION REMAINS IN
   POST-FRONTAL REGION...DEEP-LAYER WINDS ARE MODERATELY STRONG IN
   VICINITY OF DEVELOPING LOW-TOPPED CONVECTION BUT ARE GENERALLY
   PARALLEL TO THE LINE. THE 11Z VWP FROM STERLING VA INDICATES LARGE
   0-2 KM HODOGRAPHS AND 45 KT 0-6 KM SHEAR SUPPORTIVE OF OCCASIONAL
   ORGANIZED STRUCTURES INCLUDING BOWING SEGMENTS AND MESO-VORTICES.
   SOME INCREASE IN STORM INTENSITIES ALONG THE LINE MIGHT OCCUR WHERE
   THE BOUNDARY LAYER CAN UNDERGO AT LEAST MODEST WARMING...WITH
   PRIMARY THREAT BEING SPORADIC DAMAGING WIND AND A BRIEF TORNADO OR
   TWO. H
OWEVER...THE VERY MARGINAL THERMODYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT IS
   EXPECTED TO SERVE AS A LIMITING FACTOR FOR A MORE ROBUST SEVERE
   EVENT.
 

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Chances are good you'll get more than an inch between this afternoon and tomorrow. Are you optimistic?

The streak will end no doubt in my mind. Dry is done.

 

In other news how about the 6z GFS first snowfall on 10/30 :lol: Have received ice/snow on the pumpkins before Halloween twice since my move here.

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The streak will end no doubt in my mind. Dry is done.

 

In other news how about the 6z GFS first snowfall on 10/30 :lol: Have received ice/snow on the pumpkins before Halloween twice since my move here.

 

So what was the streak anyway? How long? Or is it more of an abstract streak....

 

As for snow in October, while it makes for interesting weather, and this has been said before, my preference is to have the best winter weather pattern from early-mid December to mid-late March. Early snows around here somehow don't translate into impressive winters. Yes, I like winters with snow. Last winter was exceptional, but 35" or more imby will work. Short of that, whatever I can get will suffice  :).

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Florida like downpours

Yeah.  You're getting hit more, but heavy stuff is moving through here, at least for a bit.

Best rain shot in weeks.  I hope not too much, however.  Whatever helps the foliage.

 

Winter can wait.  Too old to like October snow around here.  Thanksgiving is soon enough.

Then it's weenie time.  :)

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So what was the streak anyway? How long? Or is it more of an abstract streak....

 

As for snow in October, while it makes for interesting weather, and this has been said before, my preference is to have the best winter weather pattern from early-mid December to mid-late March. Early snows around here somehow don't translate into impressive winters. Yes, I like winters with snow. Last winter was exceptional, but 35" or more imby will work. Short of that, whatever I can get will suffice  :).

The streak here is no rain event over .6" since July

 

Don't worry about the October snow just the first GFS fantasy

 

My fantasy winter would be a release of the snow hounds and arctic around thanksgiving and roll it through the middle of February.

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Another underperformer?  Still a good chance for more overnight.

 

DP in Trenton at 68F.  Enjoy it while it lasts.  

 

Will freshen things up for the Fall Show. 

Silly future radar the media outlets were showing at 6 had the area getting pounded at this time. 

 

Was just moving some furniture and the tropical dews and in house temperature of 73F this time of night in October are off the charts

About to hit the AC

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