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The rgem is no joke.

Well... most places around this forum it had much more than what fell.  Only near NYC itself was there an inch plus in reality.  PHL had a trace.  The 'rents near Trenton had a measily 0.2".  I don't think that's really an RGEM win.

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NOUS41 KPHI 091459
PNSPHI
DEZ001>004-MDZ008-012-015-019-020-NJZ001-007>010-012>027-PAZ054-055-
060>062-067>071-100259-

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
SPOTTER REPORTS
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOUNT HOLLY NJ
959 AM EST FRI JAN 09 2015

THE FOLLOWING ARE UNOFFICIAL OBSERVATIONS TAKEN TODAY FOR THE STORM
THAT HAS AFFECTED OUR REGION. APPRECIATION IS EXTENDED TO HIGHWAY
DEPARTMENTS...COOPERATIVE OBSERVERS...SKYWARN SPOTTERS AND MEDIA FOR
THESE REPORTS. THIS SUMMARY IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON OUR HOME PAGE AT
WEATHER.GOV/PHI

********************STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL********************

LOCATION          STORM TOTAL     TIME/DATE   COMMENTS                   
                     SNOWFALL           OF 
                     /INCHES/   MEASUREMENT

NEW JERSEY

...BURLINGTON COUNTY...
   5 WNW TABERNACLE TWP   0.5   830 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                

...GLOUCESTER COUNTY...
   NATIONAL PARK            T   700 AM  1/09  TRAINED SPOTTER         

...HUNTERDON COUNTY...
   1 NW CALIFON           0.3   800 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                
   2 WSW READINGTON TWP   0.3   830 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                
   4 N CLINTON TWP        0.3   800 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                
   1 S BETHLEHEM TWP      0.2   700 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                
   3 SW LEBANON           0.2   700 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                
   2 E FLEMINGTON         0.1   800 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                

...MERCER COUNTY...
   1 ENE PENNINGTON       0.2   800 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                
   EWING                  0.2   846 AM  1/09  TRAINED SPOTTER         
   2 SSE PRINCETON        0.2   800 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                
   2 SSW LAWRENCE TWP     0.2   710 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                
   HAMILTON TWP           0.2   807 AM  1/09  SOCIAL MEDIA            

...MIDDLESEX COUNTY...
   5 NE OLD BRIDGE TWP    0.6   700 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                
   EAST BRUNSWICK         0.5   900 AM  1/09  SOCIAL MEDIA            
   3 NNE EAST BRUNSWICK   0.5   900 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                
   3 NW SOUTH BRUNSWICK   0.3   900 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                
   WSW SOUTH RIVER        0.2   700 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                

...MORRIS COUNTY...
   1 NE ROCKAWAY TWP      0.7   800 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                
   NE MINE HILL TWP       0.5   800 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                
   2 E PARSIPPANY-TROY    0.3   800 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                
   1 ENE MINE HILL TWP    0.3   755 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                
   WNW FLORHAM PARK       0.3   800 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                
   NNW ROCKAWAY           0.2   800 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                
   1 WSW LONG HILL TWP    0.2   810 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                
   2 SW RANDOLPH TWP      0.1   700 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                
   4 W WASHINGTON TWP     0.1   700 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                

...OCEAN COUNTY...
   BRICK TWP              0.5   857 AM  1/09  SOCIAL MEDIA            

...SALEM COUNTY...
   2 NNW PENNSVILLE TWP   0.1   700 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                

...SOMERSET COUNTY...
   4 ENE FRANKLIN TWP     0.3   900 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                

...SUSSEX COUNTY...
   WANTAGE                1.2   802 AM  1/09  TRAINED SPOTTER         
   3 SE HARDYSTON TWP     0.5   800 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                

...WARREN COUNTY...
   HACKETTSTOWN           0.3   730 AM  1/09  TRAINED SPOTTER         
   SW HACKETTSTOWN        0.3   730 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                
   1 ENE WASHINGTON       0.2   800 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                
   2 S GREENWICH TWP      0.2   700 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                

PENNSYLVANIA

...BERKS COUNTY...
   3 SSW MOHNTON          0.1   700 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                

...CARBON COUNTY...
   1 NNE JIM THORPE       0.2   700 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                
   3 WSW LEHIGHTON        0.1   700 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                

...CHESTER COUNTY...
   4 NNE KENNETT SQUARE   0.3   742 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                
   3 SW CHADDS FORD       0.2   800 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                

...LEHIGH COUNTY...
   LEHIGH VALLEY INTL A     T   700 AM  1/09  ASOS                    

...MONROE COUNTY...
   LONG POND              0.1   938 AM  1/09  PENNDOT                 
   3 W SAYLORSBURG        0.1   800 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                

...MONTGOMERY COUNTY...
   2 NNE POTTSTOWN        0.3   700 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                
   1 NNW SOUDERTON        0.2   800 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                

...NORTHAMPTON COUNTY...
   E MARTINS CREEK        0.1   700 AM  1/09  COCORAHS                

...PHILADELPHIA COUNTY...
   PHILADELPHIA             T   700 AM  1/09  EMERGENCY MNGR          
   PHILADELPHIA INTL AI     T   700 AM  1/09  ASOS                    

$$

LF

Media Delaware County 0.2 sorry hard to get motivated with that next time I will call

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Well... most places around this forum it had much more than what fell.  Only near NYC itself was there an inch plus in reality.  PHL had a trace.  The 'rents near Trenton had a measily 0.2".  I don't think that's really an RGEM win.

GFS and NAM had nothing, sure my placement from philly north and east was slightly too far south and west but over all you can't deny the RGEM's idea of enhancement toward the coast was correct. Mt Holly never updated PNS since 9:52 am. I know there were reports of 1" in Belmar and Red Bank and had an inch here. Which just happens to be the most I've seen in a single event this sad sad winter but we're bound for cluncker sooner or later, just hope it doesn't become another opposite extreme like 2011-2012 was to 2010-2011.

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We are not  going to take advantage of opportunity with the cold this first half of January and with the impending 4-7 day mild up to follow weenies are going to be agitated for sure. Rather rough considering the extremely rainy December to see this debacle unfold into a mostly rainstorm next week. Just four weeks from wanting spring.

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GFS and NAM had nothing, sure my placement from philly north and east was slightly too far south and west but over all you can't deny the RGEM's idea of enhancement toward the coast was correct.

The GFS and NAM had a modest amount of QPF.  Similar to what fell over most of this sub-forums area.   Even in NYC, actual QPF amounts were less than what the RGEM had; the local airports mostly reported less than a tenth of an inch of precip... it was ratios that got things going good up there with many areas 20:1.  The GFS and NAM may have been a little low up there, but the RGEM was still too high even there.

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The GFS and NAM had a modest amount of QPF.  Similar to what fell over most of this sub-forums area.   Even in NYC, actual QPF amounts were less than what the RGEM had; the local airports mostly reported less than a tenth of an inch of precip... it was ratios that got things going good up there with many areas 20:1.  The GFS and NAM may have been a little low up there, but the RGEM was still too high even there.

Yeah, .05 yielded 1" here. Doesn't change the fact that this winter stanks.

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It's winters like this where I'm glad I live down here since my expectations are always low. The Atlantic is just a disaster and the coastal plain almost always needs its cooperation to score. I'll seriously be satisfied with a 2009 like turnaround with a few clippers and one good dump in Feb or March. January down here sometimes feels like an extension of Dec. even the 96 blizzard was a mixed mess here.

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I think we all should have seen this coming after last year's brutal cold and snow not scientific but its unusall to have such brutal winters follow. Anyway I for one am glad this sysem on Monday is trending away from the Ice storm to plain rain, dont get me wrong Id rather have snow

Still can't say for sure how things will end up, but I think most people doing outlooks for winter took the El Nino as a guaranteed event, while in reality it has not really come together.  This likely influenced many outlooks.  Right now CPC still has a watch but the chance has dwindled to 55%.

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My generator will remain at the ready....I don't think the N and W burbs will be lucky enough but let's hope things warm quicker than currently forecasted!

So you are going against all guidance basically? Morning rush will be a mess especially n and w but we should still get to the mid 30s by noon/early pm. Plus not to mention guidance continues to warm us up faster with each run.

When I say many dodged a bullet I am speaking in regards to the .5"+ ice models were showing a few days ago. We won't come close to that type of accretion in our respective locales Paul. Messy and slick, yes. Crippling, probably not.

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Ok what looked like a significant warm period running through MLK for a week or so has morphed into nothing more than a couple mild days between cold shots of say +5. But the pattern is still an awful one as indicated by todays ECM with 2 more cold rains around days 5 and 8

 

This winter is getting old fast. Much rather have a +2F January with 10" snow over -2F with cold rain and 2-3" yuck

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Ok what looked like a significant warm period running through MLK for a week or so has morphed into nothing more than a couple mild days between cold shots of say +5. But the pattern is still an awful one as indicated by todays ECM with 2 more cold rains around days 5 and 8

 

This winter is getting old fast. Much rather have a +2F January with 10" snow over -2F with cold rain and 2-3" yuck

Ditto

 

This winter is hard on snow lovers.

 

February will be rocking though once we establish some blocking!

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