T. August Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 81/59 after a high of 82. Very nice day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoast NPZ Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 82 for the high. Deep blue skies and breezy. Really was a nice day. DP at 48F. Very comfy out now. Cool over performed a bit today. If the winds die down tonight, tomorrow morning could be really nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoast NPZ Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 About 50 miles NNE of me. Did anyone hear about the pilot? As of late last night there was still no word about him. Assuming he wasn't in the plane if they didn't find a body in the wreckage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLPressure Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 76/55 at National Harbor. Too bad the beginning of September is going to resemble late July and early August. Let's hope it is short term, although I trust Bob and his assessment of the long wave pattern and that it sucks for us low dew point and cooler-than-normal temperature folks. C'est la vie. Can't complain too much. It's been a great summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOfClimatology Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Currently 67/60, beautiful evening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T. August Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 It's looking more likely that September will be above average, as Bob noted. The CFSv2 shows the month of September running 1.5-2C above normal for the Mid-Atlantic. The CFSv2 is also showing a 2C negative departure for the first 12 days of October. I'm hoping this is true, because I'm really done with the heat. But as EastCoast NPZ said, above normal temps in the fall is still nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 58.0, which actually makes this my coolest temp since mid-June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pythium Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 49.9 northern Cecil county by PA line. Awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 58.0, which actually makes this my coolest temp since mid-June. Shorter days helping lows. Good stuff. Too bad dca is going to rack up some 90's over the next couple weeks. Hopefully we can keep it at 5 or less but that might be tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 As of late last night there was still no word about him. Assuming he wasn't in the plane if they didn't find a body in the wreckage. He didn't survive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoast NPZ Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 He didn't survive I hadn't heard. Very sad news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoast NPZ Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 In happier news, last night was beautiful. Low of 52F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T. August Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 The low was 57 inland, 59 on the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 52.9F was the low (22nd <60F low of JJA) in Clarksburg after a high of 76F yesterday. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailylurker Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Shorter days helping lows. Good stuff. Too bad dca is going to rack up some 90's over the next couple weeks. Hopefully we can keep it at 5 or less but that might be tough.Sucks.. My fall potatoes will be getting fried. I should of grown them during July and August lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER53 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 10-15 degree difference between DCA and surrounding station lows. At what point do the "scientists" in charge say enough is enough? 15-20, 20, 25???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 10-15 degree difference between DCA and surrounding station lows. At what point do the "scientists" in charge say enough is enough? 15-20, 20, 25???????????? I guess they could change the station...where do you want to move it? any suggestions?..honestly, if you don't want it at DCA, you should have a spot in mind...I'd be down with Andrews...I think they get a bit more snow too...Logan was 15 degrees warmer than some surrounding burbs last night...I think they have it worse...definitely don't move it to Annapolis...they were 64.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Dry air and clear skies in Fall are ideal conditions for radiative cooling and local microclimactic variations to become apparent. Especially in our area where we have hundreds of feet of elevation change, a couple major rivers, the Bay, the ocean, the mountains, even without all the urban/suburban issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER53 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 The reality is there are cubic tons of atmosphere pressing upon the region with 52-55* temps. What type of "barbque lid" does DCA have over it to thwart the Much More powerful atmosphere? How can densely populated site just 5-10 miles away, some even further south, be over 10 degrees cooler. When is enough enough? 20 degree discrepancies? I think you have to go to either Jacksonville or Miami to find a warmer metro reading. NWS and FAA need to get off their dead as*es and quit try to justify the unjustifyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I suppose it comes down to the question "is the weather station reporting conditions that are representative for the area of the population it is meant to serve?" I think DCA evidently does that. When it reports 33 and rain while IAD is 30 and snow, and it's raining in DC and snowing at Dulles, that seems pretty spot on to me. Mount Washington's reported conditions are nowhere close to the conditions in Conway NH, but they are an accurate portrayal of the weather on Mount Washington and some of the other peaks in the White Mountains. So comparing the observations of one location to the observations at "nearby" locations doesn't seem valid, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 DCA is obviously much warmer in these types of situations then rural or suburban areas. But so what? It's accurate for downtown DC. It's not biasing climate records (as in AGW studies) as they're adjusted for UHI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 DCA is fine imo. Even if it wasn't where would you move it to make it more representative? Representative for what? That's the question. It's usually pretty representative for downtown DC. It's obviously not representative of "the region", but we have IAD, BWI and others for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T. August Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 The same thing happens up here. Places north and south of me are 3-5 degrees cooler at night. Sometimes I'll get the random "win", and be a degree cooler than places around me. My elevation is only 30ft, and I'm right on an inlet to the Bay, so that makes me warmer. But then there's the issue of places south of me that are also on the water, and still end up cooler. I'm still trying to figure out why it's "warm" here. I was thinking wind, or maybe humidity, but honestly I don't know. If anyone has any idea why, that would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOfClimatology Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Representative for what? That's the question. It's usually pretty representative for downtown DC. It's obviously not representative of "the region", but we have IAD, BWI and others for that. I'm in the western sector of the district, but DCA clearly runs warmer than my location at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T. August Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Currently 78/57 here. I'm really not looking forward to the possible 90s next week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 This debate never gets enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I'm at DCA now. I'll see if I can go check the sensor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceFrederickWx Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 The only thing I have to add to this DCA debate here is what I posted in the "extreme run" thread a few weeks ago- that this year so far has had the biggest disparity ever between DCA and BWI temps. And it just got even wider this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoast NPZ Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Pleasantly surprised to pull out one last 70s high for August. That makes #10, and no 90s yet. Sunday will be diecy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLPressure Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Representative for what? That's the question. It's usually pretty representative for downtown DC. It's obviously not representative of "the region", but we have IAD, BWI and others for that. I have to pretty much agree with this. The region is vast and the micro climates are numerous. The more trees or the more concrete, blah blah blah. But even DC has it's differences. Rock Creek park will definitely be cooler than parts of DC, like Capitol Hill. You have to pick and lock into a permanent spot. DCA has time on it's side. I don't have stats handy but it probably is close to the average of any spot in DC. Good enough for the city. The "region" has other stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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