REDMK6GLI Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Gulp Alive is the miracle to fluke fishing. I haven't brought any bait for the past 2 years. Tip: Try 4" and 5" in the "Nuclear Chicken" color. Deadly color. Thank me later. ordered some shrimp and mantis shrimp in nuclear chicken from Berkley! sunday I will see if you really did tell me a great tip ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 ordered some shrimp and mantis shrimp in nuclear chicken from Berkley! sunday I will see if you really did tell me a great tip ...... Those aren't the ones I use. These are. 5" in "nuclear chicken" color: http://www.overtons.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?pdesc=Berkley-Gulp-5-Swimming-Mullet-4-ct-GSSM5-NCH&i=756183&r=view&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=googlebase&s_kwcid=googlepla&cvsfa=2587&cvsfe=2&cvsfhu=373536313833&gclid=Cj0KEQjw06GfBRCR9tDI4t6n5_MBEiQAFo6kuCAD3yYfZQDY8RvU5FbBjj5BF_i_6YRZhyRUjVJBn-EaAk138P8HAQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Timing still seems to be an issue. The NAM is mostly light tomorrow and tomorrow night before dumping on us Wednesday morning. The GFS is spread out starting tomorrow morning lasting 24 hours on and off 4k NAM CAPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Those aren't the ones I use. These are. 5" in "nuclear chicken" color: http://www.overtons.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?pdesc=Berkley-Gulp-5-Swimming-Mullet-4-ct-GSSM5-NCH&i=756183&r=view&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=googlebase&s_kwcid=googlepla&cvsfa=2587&cvsfe=2&cvsfhu=373536313833&gclid=Cj0KEQjw06GfBRCR9tDI4t6n5_MBEiQAFo6kuCAD3yYfZQDY8RvU5FbBjj5BF_i_6YRZhyRUjVJBn-EaAk138P8HAQ got the shrimp because they have worked fantastic so far in the new penny/molting colors ordered those from overton's just now as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 i wouldn't eat anything from the water around here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 i wouldn't eat anything from the water around here So then you shouldn't eat fish from anywhere in the world. The ocean waters around here are amongst the cleanest in the world. Most of the LI sound also tests out to perfectly healthy. Also, all fish are migratory. The Bluefin Tuna or the Striped Bass you eat at a restaurant likely traveled through dirty water at one point. Makes no difference. Striped bass spawn in the Hudson River, then travel through Jamaica Bay and the Western LI sound. After that, the public pays $15 a pound at a restaurant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 depends on where you catch it http://www.health.ny.gov/environmental/outdoors/fish/health_advisories/regional/new_york_city.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 12z Euro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 depends on where you catch it http://www.health.ny.gov/environmental/outdoors/fish/health_advisories/regional/new_york_city.htm Mostly for crustaceans and shelled fish. These are not migratory animals, so therefore they are feeding on dirtier bottom. I am talking about migratory species that visit our local areas. Fluke, Striped Bass, Black Sea Bass, Blackfish, Porgies, etc. These fish can be inside the airport waters of Jamaica Bay and then 2 weeks later they can be 20 miles offshore in the super clean Atlantic Ocean. I've caught tagged striped bass in the Western LI sound, that were 1st caught inside the Hudson River (Piermont area) only 6 days earlier. That same fish can be in the pristine Eastern LI Sound and Ocean within a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Claus Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 i wouldn't eat anything from the water around here I actually worked for the EPA in the Region 2 field office in Edison. I'm familiar with the water quality and worked on some of the REMAP reports myself. Certain bodies of water, I agree, but in general water quality is better now than it has been in at least a couple of decades. Of course Ag3 makes a good point and for that matter if the fish is high enough up the foodchain I wouldn't eat it from around here. You know the likely suspects (sharks, swordfish, tilefish etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I actually worked for the EPA in the Region 2 field office in Edison. I'm familiar with the water quality and worked on some of the REMAP reports myself. Certain bodies of water, I agree, but in general water quality is better now than it has been in at least a couple of decades. Of course Ag3 makes a good point and for that matter if the fish is high enough up the foodchain I wouldn't eat it from around here. You know the likely suspects (sharks, swordfish, tilefish etc). The slower the fish grows, the more time it has to gather mercury. General rule of thumb is to eat fish that grow fast and that are young. A 30 year old, 50 pound Striped bass caught in the middle of the Atlantic will have way more PCBs and Mercury then a 6 year old 7 pound striped bass caught in gross Flushing Bay (LGA water). Sharks, some tuna, striped bass, tilefish, swords, etc. are all slow growing fish and contain the most mercury/pcbs. Fluke, porgies (scup) and bluefish are fast growing fish and contain little to no mercury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 The slower the fish grows, the more time it had to gather mercury. General rule of thumb is to eat fish that grow fast and that are young. A 30 year old, 50 pound Striped bass caught in the middle of the Atlantic will have way more PCBs and Mercury then a 6 year old 7 pound striped bass caught in gross Flushing Bay (LGA water). Sharks, some tuna, striped bass, tilefish, swords, etc. are all slow growing fish and contain the most mercury/pcbs. Fluke, porgies (scup) and bluefish are fast growing fish and contain little to no mercury. Tuna and swordfish are known to have some high mercury counts for that reason. also not very many people eat fish more than a couple times a week to actually suffer from long term effects of a contaminated fish species. Recommended one-two serving sizes of fish in a week is suggested. Regardless we do have some great fishing this year thus far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Tuna and swordfish are known to have some high mercury counts for that reason. also not very many people eat fish more than a couple times a week to actually suffer from long term effects of a contaminated fish species. Recommended one-two serving sizes of fish in a week is suggested. Regardless we do have some great fishing this year thus far I always tell my friends who are clueless about fish, always buy LOCAL fish. Only buy a species that is caught from the Northeast. When you buy a species that is not local like red snapper, bronzini or Chilean sea sass, then you are buying a fish that is days to sometimes a weeks old. Local fish to eat for those who have no clue: Spring/Summer/Fall: Fluke, Flounder, Blackfish (Tautog) Porgy (Scup) Black Sea Bass, Striped Bass, Herring, Shad, Cod, Bluefish, Bluefin Tuna, Yellowfin Tuna, Longfin Albacore Tuna, Mahi-Mahi, Tilefish and Pollock. Winter: Black Sea Bass, Porgy (scup), Herring, Shad, Cod, Blackfish, Flounder, Fluke, Bluefin Tuna, Tilefish and Pollock. All these fish are caught commercially from the local Atlantic Ocean waters (within 150 miles of Long Island) and are all fresh at a good fish market. The fancy and high priced fish like Bronzini and Chilean Sea Bass are old and some come from unregulated parts of the world. You can never go wrong with Fluke. One of the best tasting fish, not expensive and always commercially fished in local waters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I always tell my friends who are clueless about fish, always buy LOCAL fish. Only buy a species that is caught from the Northeast. When you buy a species that is not local like red snapper, bronzini or Chilean sea sass, then you are buying a fish that is days to sometimes a weeks old. Local fish to eat for those who have no clue: Spring/Summer/Fall: Fluke, Flounder, Blackfish (Tautog) Porgy (Scup) Black Sea Bass, Striped Bass, Herring, Shad, Cod and bluefish Bluefish Winter: Black Sea Bass, Porgy (scup), Herring, Shad, Cod, Blackfish, Flounder All these fish are caught commercially from the local Atlantic Ocean waters (within 150 miles of Long Island) and are all fresh at a good fish market. The fancy and high priced fish like Bronzini and Chilean Sea Bass are old and some come from unregulated parts of the world. I never got the whole obsession with Chilean sea bass...seems like a marketing ploy to me. It tastes ok but for the size isn't nearly worth what you pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I never got the whole obsession with Chilean sea bass...seems like a marketing ploy to me. It tastes ok but for the size isn't nearly worth what you pay for it. And it comes from around the world and by the time it gets to your local market, it is 1+ week old and god only knows what conditions it has been put through. Fluke and Black Sea Bass, IMO, taste better anyway and are caught in very clean waters off the Atlantic and can always be found fresh in this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I never got the whole obsession with Chilean sea bass...seems like a marketing ploy to me. It tastes ok but for the size isn't nearly worth what you pay for it. im charging $24/pound for previously frozen Chilean sea bass right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 im charging $24/pound for previously frozen Chilean sea bass right now! LOL I know people who'll buy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 And it comes from around the world and by the time it gets to your local market, it is 1+ week old and god only knows what conditions it has been put through. Fluke and Black Sea Bass, IMO, taste better anyway and are caught in very clean waters off the Atlantic and can always be found fresh in this area. being a seafood manager at King Kullen I always get "$12.00/pound for local flounder is expensive". it is not being you get roughly 3-4 fillets in a pound depending on the size I get and it is LOCAL and caught in ALOT less numbers than your typical run flounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 LOL I know people who'll buy it yea I bet I don't bring it in for my current store (Lindenhurst) because it is a middle class neighborhood BUT when I was in Manhasset I bought in that, fresh local sword loins and fresh local yellowfin and people would buy for the fresh stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 You know the weather is boring when we're talking about the price of fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 i wouldn't eat anything from the water around here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 You know the weather is boring when we're talking about the price of fish I forgot Whiting! One of the best tasting fish in the world and costs $1.99 to $3.00 a pound. Also caught locally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 You know the weather is boring when we're talking about the price of fish well atleast we don't have to worry about CAPE, SW Suffolk screw zone, etc. when talking fishing. the one thing that has gone right for me this year has been fishing in my non-existent severe season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NycStormChaser Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Wow, a lot of fish talk here lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Banter thread please...we have a big rain event coming lets discuss that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC Weather Lover Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Banter thread please...we have a big rain event coming lets discuss thatthis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Banter thread please...we have a big rain event coming lets discuss that Models have mostly 1-2" rain amounts here. That's hardly a big rain event. We'll likely have a heavy line of rain for a few hours as a low spins up offshore but there shouldn't be enough for any problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Models have mostly 1-2" rain amounts here. That's hardly a big rain event. We'll likely have a heavy line of rain for a few hours as a low spins up offshore but there shouldn't be enough for any problems. LOL...flood watches just hoisted for the entire area - * SHOWERS WILL LIKELY BECOME HEAVY AT TIMES FROM LATE TUESDAY NIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY MORNING OR EARLY WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. RAINFALL RATES OF 1 TO 2 INCHES PER HOUR ARE LIKELY DURING THE PERIODS OF HEAVIEST RAIN...AND WIDESPREAD RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 2 TO 3 INCHES AND LOCALLY OVER 4 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 LOL...flood watches just hoisted for the entire area - * SHOWERS WILL LIKELY BECOME HEAVY AT TIMES FROM LATE TUESDAY NIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY MORNING OR EARLY WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. RAINFALL RATES OF 1 TO 2 INCHES PER HOUR ARE LIKELY DURING THE PERIODS OF HEAVIEST RAIN...AND WIDESPREAD RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 2 TO 3 INCHES AND LOCALLY OVER 4 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE. Every model I've seen has 1-2 inches of rain for the area and it lasting for a few hours before ending. There could be more but if that's all there is I don't see many problems. Maybe some flash flooding if it rains hard enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Banter thread please...we have a big rain event coming lets discuss that Winterwarlock the new moderator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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