Dsnowx53 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I can't type too much due to badly spraining my wrist, but I did take a look at the threat for Sunday and it surely looks interesting, particularly on the 00z NAM. A potent trough is entering the country, but most of the closed off trough should stay in Canada, with a piece of it coming down towards the Great Lakes. This gives us the necessary dynamics for a severe weather event, but prevents our 500mb winds from essentially being due south, which would have given us too much moisture and convective debris. Relatively westerly flow aloft combined with potent shortwaves in a dynamically and thermodynamically favorable environment lead to plenty of severe weather potential -- particularly just to our south and west, who will be located just south of the strongest shortwave, leading to the most bulk shear (70 knots!), particularly during strong daytime heating. Though timing may be a tad too slow for us (sigh), the NAM does show things getting quite interesting around 03 - 06z. Vortmax near our area increases dynamics, lowers surface pressures, and allows surface winds to back significantly -- while flow is still relatively westerly and strong aloft. This leads to plenty of bulk shear and helicity. Additionally, the day 2 SPC outlook is ominous. The GFS is not as interesting, but still shows a decent combination of bulk shear and instability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Mt holly nws discussion from this morning is starting beat the war drum on a possible decent event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weathergun Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 6z nam backed off with it's convectively-enhanced low Sunday night. But tomorrow morning also has a isolated tornado threat with the warm front. Mlcape is 1k+ J/kg with winds veering more southerly to westerly with height over NE NJ/NYC/LI area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Upton THIS IS WHERE THE FORECAST GETS INTERESTING WITH THE FOCUS TURNINGTO A WEAKENING CUTOFF LOW DROPPING THROUGH THE UPPER MIDWESTTONIGHT...THE GREAT LAKES SUN AND PIVOTING THROUGH NEW ENGLAND ON MON.SOME OF THE MODEL GUIDANCE IS INDICATING A SECONDARY AREA OF LOWPRES DEVELOPING OVER CENTRAL NJ SUN NIGHT...WHILE OTHERS KEEP THEPARENT LOW IN CONTROL FURTHER N AND W. CONSIDERABLE SPREAD REMAINSAMONGST THE GUIDANCE WITH REGARDS TO TIMING AND TRACK OF THE LOW.THE NAM IS THE WORST CASE SCENARIO WITH THE LOW TRACKING NE FROMCENTRAL NJ TO MA WITH 60+KT OF 0-6KM BULK SHEAR (~15KT 0-1KMSHEAR)...APPROX 1K J/KG OF SBCAPE...400-500 M2/S2 OF SFC-1KMHELICITY AND AN LCL BELOW 1K FT AROUND 06Z MON. THIS WOULD BESUFFICIENT FOR ROTATING STORMS. HOWEVER IF THIS SECONDARY LOW DOESNOT DEVELOP THE MOST SEVERE STORMS SHOULD REMAIN FURTHER N AND W.NEEDLESS TO SAY...STILL SOME FAIRLY BIG UNCERTAINTY IN HOW MUCH OFAN IMPACT THIS WILL BE...BUT SINCE THERE IS THE THREAT FOR SVRWX HAVE ADDED ENHANCED WORDING TO THE FORECAST SUN AFTN AND NIGHT.PWATS INCREASING TO NEAR 2 INCHES ALSO INDICATE THE POTENTIAL FORHEAVY RAIN IN ANY THUNDERSTORMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PB GFI Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 The Euro has the first severe threat Sunday morning as the remnant EML crosses the region. There could be a spin up with this early round of convection as the surface flow will be SSE under a strong SW LLJ. Screen shot 2014-07-26 at 8.13.03 AM.png There looks to be 2 rounds one Sun AM and then again late at night . We will have to see how much instability will be left for the 2nd go around . Sometimes round 2 just tends to be a heavy rain maker . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJWxWatcher201 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Wish we could get this thread pinned or something. Would love to see more convo for a possible TOR threat tomorrow morning around this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dsnowx53 Posted July 26, 2014 Author Share Posted July 26, 2014 12z NAM continues to look impressive for tomorrow morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJWxWatcher201 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 12z NAM continues to look impressive for tomorrow morning. It does indeed. Def appears to be good timing for the morning . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metsfan Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Tomorrow morning looks intriguing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I will say morning threat to me hold ALOT more merit than these threats that happen in the afternoon and evening that 99% of the time go poof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Morning storms can often over perform under the right conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJWxWatcher201 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Morning storms can often over perform under the right conditions. Usually the case. Anyone who can recall severe morning storms, usually can always say the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikehobbyst Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I think many will be startled off the toilet seat while reading their morning newspaper come tomorrow morning, when all of a sudden it goes crash outside, and looks like night at 7:30 in the morning. Put on traffic and weather channel and see giant red blobs dotted over the area. I'd say close the potty, turn off the faucet, get out of the shower watch for tomorrow morning. I'd say SVR risk is there for tomorrow morning: Warm front mini super cells riding NE from NJ and PA 15 % wind 10 % tor 5 % hail -6 LI 2500 Cape 45 knt shear WVA, SE OH and WMD look like super cell city tomorrow. MDT risk ??? Sunday night: Squall line possible from West. May miss to the south. -5 LI 1500 Cape 35 knt shear 15% wind 5% tor 10% hail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I think many will be startled off the toilet seat while reading their morning newspaper come tomorrow morning, when all of a sudden it goes crash outside, and looks like night at 7:30 in the morning. Put on traffic and weather channel and see giant red blobs dotted over the area. I'd say close the potty, turn off the faucet, get out of the shower watch for tomorrow morning. Jeez i was looking forward to enjoying my morning doo doo to start off sunday.....well this sucks! Tommorow morning looks promising thus far, afternoon evening storms im not counting on as ive learned my lesson in the past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow_Miser Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 12z RGEM has decent severe weather parameters for the NYC area tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dsnowx53 Posted July 26, 2014 Author Share Posted July 26, 2014 ^ Love seeing the storm motion and 0-6km shear north of west for tomorrow morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow_Miser Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Really decent parameters for portions of NJ tomorrow afternoon on the RGEM. Isolated pockets of Helicity above 3, Lifted Index below -8, wind shear in the 35-40 kt. range, and CAPE above 3000 J/kg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC Weather Lover Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I think many will be startled off the toilet seat while reading their morning newspaper come tomorrow morning, when all of a sudden it goes crash outside, and looks like night at 7:30 in the morning. Put on traffic and weather channel and see giant red blobs dotted over the area. I'd say close the potty, turn off the faucet, get out of the shower watch for tomorrow morning. Boy, do you like to go into detail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Boy, do you like to go into detail! Give the man credit he swings for the fences and hangs himself out there to be trolled and verbally abused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 The 12z Euro has a LI-CT jackpot tomorrow morning with more convection across the area in the afternoon. 12z-18z ECMWF_MSLPThickQPF_ne_f30.png 18z-0z ECMWF_MSLPThickQPF_ne_f36.png I know this may very well be a two pronged event tommorow chris, but like paul pointed out after severe storms in the morning the atmosphere most of the time cannot recover or destabilize enough to bring severe weather to region. relegating us the heavy rain makes with pockets of stronger storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanksfan Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I think many will be startled off the toilet seat while reading their morning newspaper come tomorrow morning, when all of a sudden it goes crash outside, and looks like night at 7:30 in the morning. Put on traffic and weather channel and see giant red blobs dotted over the area. I'd say close the potty, turn off the faucet, get out of the shower watch for tomorrow morning. Oh well, there goes my morning plans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Oh well, there goes my morning plans! YUP! Stormaggedon is coming tommorow morning, batten down the hatches the rain drops cometh down on thee with great vengeance and fury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Mt.Holly: .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM SUNDAY MORNING/...THE GFS INITIALIZATION AT 500MB LOOKED BETTER THAN THE WRF-NMMBWHILE THE WRF-NMMB LOOKED BETTER AT 850MB AND 925MB. OF NOTE THE GFSHAS BEEN TRENDING DOWNWARD WITH ITS THERMAL MASS FIELDS THE LASTCOUPLE OF DAYS AS WE GET CLOSER TO F00.AS FAR AS MODEL SHORT WAVE VERIFICATION BASED ON 24HR FCSTS ITS THEECMWF, THE GFS @ 18HRS, THEN CAN GGEM AND WRF-NMMB. THIS IS BOTH AVOLATILE AND ANOMALOUS REGIME FOR LATE JULY AND WE ARE GOING TO RUNWITH THE ASSUMPTION UNTIL THE TROF CLEARS THAT SHORT WAVES WILLOUTPERFORM. 12Z UA ANALYSIS SHOWED A POCKET OF 19C DEW POINTS AT850MB/925MB WEST OF CHICAGO. THIS CANT BE DENIED OVERNIGHT ANDCONVECTION IS FIRING OVER NORTHERN INDIANA.MEANWHILE AFTER THE ALONG THE COAST SHORT WAVE CLEARS, WAA ISFORECAST TO CONTINUE OVERNIGHT. TAKE THAT POCKET OF VERY HIGHEQUIVALENT THETA E AND MATCH IT WITH A FAVORABLE JET REGIME AND WAA,SEE NO REASON THAT THIS FEATURE CANT KEEP ON PRODUCING PCPNOVERNIGHT. WHILE POPS HAVE BEEN DROPPED FROM THIS EVENING AS THEFIRST SHORT WAVE PASSES OFF THE COAST. THEY ARE INCREASED AGAINOVERNIGHT WITH THE GREATEST EMPHASIS NORTH.BIG DEW POINT DIFFERENCES ACROSS OUR CWA MAINLY BASED ON WHERE THERAIN HAS FALLEN MORE HEAVILY. WITH AN ATTENDANT SOUTHERLY FLOWCONTINUING THRU THE NIGHT, WE BELIEVE THE HIGHER STAT GUIDANCE MINSWILL VERIFY THE BEST, ESPECIALLY SOUTHEAST HALF OF CWA.&&.SHORT TERM /6 AM SUNDAY MORNING THROUGH 6 PM SUNDAY/...SLIGHT RISK FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS CONTINUES FOR SUNDAY AS OUR RUNOF DRY WEEKEND WEATHER REALLY TAKES A HIT. NOW COMES THE FORECASTPROBLEMS OF SHORT WAVE STRENGTH AND THEIR EFFECT ON THE SENSIBLEWEATHER. HERE OUR CONFIDENCE IS LESS THAN AVERAGE BASED ON THISMORNING`S OUTCOME.THE NEXT SHORT WAVE IS INITIATING AN MCS IN EASTERN NEBRASKA ASWE TYPE. THIS IS THE ONE THAT THE GFS TAKES TO THE NTH DEGREE ONSUNDAY MORNING AND MAKES FOLLOWING ITS MASS FIELDS FOR THE REST OFSUNDAY IMPOSSIBLE. THE GENERAL IDEA APPEARS CORRECT. BUT DOES THISSHORT WAVE ARRIVE TOO SOON BEFORE INSTABILITY CAN INCREASEADEQUATELY FOR SEVERE AND STABILIZE US "SOMEWHAT"? DOES THECONVECTION MUDDY THE CONVECTIVE WATERS FOR THE REAL DEAL COMINGOUT OF EASTERN CANADA? DOES THE PREDECESSOR SHORT WAVE LINGER TOOLONG DURING THE EARLY MORNING? THE FCST BULK SHEAR IS WELL WITHINRANGE OF SEVERE AT 30-40KTS. THE QUESTION BECOMES ABOUT AIR MASSRECOVERY OR PURITY AROUND THESE SHORT WAVES. WE DONT HAVE THEANSWER YET. THE SUNNIER SUNDAY IS, THE TRULY STRONGER THECONVECTION WILL BECOME. REGARDLESS, A MORE THAN ADEQUATE WINDFIELD IS IN PLACE (ANOMALOUSLY STRONG FOR LATE JULY) AND WE WILLCONTINUE THE ENHANCED WORDING IN THE ZONES/GRIDS STARTING DURINGTHE AFTERNOON. CAN GGEM AND UKMET TIMING WOULD GIVE OUR CWA AHIGHER CHANCE FOR SEVERE. GFS/ECMWF TIMING AT LEAST THRU THEDAYTIME HOURS WOULD BE LESS. POPS WERE LEFT AS LIKELY WITH ANINCREASE FROM SOUTHWEST TO NORTHEAST AS THE AFTERNOON AND EARLYEVENING PROGRESS. DONT WANT TO FORGO THE HEAVY RAIN THREAT, BUTWITH A FASTER OVERALL WIND FIELD WOULD HAVE TO SEE TRAINING TOHAVE ANY FLASH FLOOD THREAT.BECAUSE OF UNCERTAINTY AS TO CLOUD COVER AND A DOWNWARD TREND TO THEGFS THERMAL FIELDS, WE TENDED TO LEAN TOWARD THE LOWER GFS MOS FORMAX TEMPS. PRETTY CLOSE TO CONTINUITY.&&.LONG TERM /SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY/...A WET START TO THE LONG TERM, FOLLOWED BY A PROLONGED DRY PERIOD.ON SUNDAY NIGHT, WE EXPECT AN INITIAL SURFACE TROUGH TO MOVE ACROSSTHE AREA DURING THE EVENING AND PUSH OFFSHORE OVERNIGHT AS AN AREAOF SURFACE LOW PRESSURE MOVES THROUGH PENNSYLVANIAN INTO NEW YORK.MEANWHILE, SEVERAL SHORT WAVE/VORTICITY IMPULSES WILL SLIDE ACROSSTHE AREA WITHIN THE SOUTHWEST FLOW ALOFT AS THE MID-LEVEL LOW MOVESOUT OF THE GREAT LAKES AND INTO WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA. THIS WILL KEEPA HIGH LIKELIHOOD OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS THE AREA. PWVALUES ARE FORECAST TO BE CLOSE TO 1.5-1.75 INCHES EARLY IN THENIGHT, SO A PERIOD OF HEAVY RAIN IS POSSIBLE. HOWEVER, AS THE NIGHTMOVES ON, THE PW VALUES DROP, SO HEAVY RAIN WILL BECOME LESS LIKELY. Upton: .NEAR TERM /THROUGH SUNDAY/...SPRINKLE ACTIVITY SHOULD COME TO AND END ACROSS EASTERN SECTIONSOVER THE NEXT HOUR OR TWO AS SHORTWAVE ENERGY SLIDES EAST. ANYISOLATED DIURNAL CONVECTION LATE TODAY/EARLY THIS EVENING...MAINLYWEST OF HUDSON...SHOULD DISSIPATE WITH LOSS OF DAYTIME INSTABILITY.THE NEXT FEATURE OF INTEREST IS A JET STREAK AND SHORTWAVE ENERGYTRACKING ESE THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES THIS AFTERNOON/EVE AND TOWARDSTHE REGION OVERNIGHT. AT THE SURFACE...A RESULTANT SURFACE WAVE WILLTRACK EAST THROUGH ONTARIO...WITH ACCOMPANYING WARM FRONTAPPROACHING THE REGION LATE TONIGHT AND TOWARDS DAYBREAK.INCREASING THETA-E/INSTABILITY WITH A DEVELOPING LLJ AHEAD OF THEWARM FRONT AND MID/UPPER FORCING WILL INCREASE THE CHANCE FORSHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS W TO E LATE TONIGHT INTO SUN MORNING FROMTHE NYC METRO AND PTS WEST...AND SUN MORNING INTO EARLY AFTERNOONFOR LI/CT.MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH STRONG DEEP LAYER SHEAR AND ATLEAST MODERATE LOW-LEVEL SHEAR FIELDS ALONG/AHEAD OF WARM FRONT LATETONIGHT INTO SUNDAY MORNING. THE INSTABILITY ENVIRONMENT IS A BIT INQUESTION THOUGH FOR LATE TONIGHT INTO SUNDAY MORNING...AS MODELS AREHANDLING ADVECTION OF STEEP MID-LEVEL LAPSE RATES FROMMID-MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY A BIT DIFFERENTLY. BUT IF STEEP LAPSERATES ARE MAINTAINED...AN ELEVATED MODERATELY UNSTABLE ENVIRONMENTWOULD BE REALIZED...WHICH WOULD BE FAVORABLE FOR SOME STRONG TOSEVERE CONVECTION IF LOW-LEVEL INVERSION CAN BE OVERCOME. MODERATEINSTABILITY WITH STRONG SHEAR LEVELS WOULD INCLUDE POTENTIAL FORORGANIZED STORMS AND POTENTIALLY ROTATING. WILL ADDRESS THISPOTENTIAL IN HWO.&&.SHORT TERM /SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH 6 PM SUNDAY/...SHORTWAVE AND WARM FRONT SHOULD PUSH NE OF THE REGION SUNDAYAFTERNOON WITH ASSOCIATED EARLY CONVECTION EXPECTED TO BE PUSHINGEAST. ACROSS THE NYC METRO AND POINTS WEST...POTENTIAL EXISTS FORPARTIAL CLEARING WHICH SHOULD ALLOW TEMPS TO RISE WELL INTO 80S...TOAROUND 90 DEGREES NYC/NJ METRO. A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN HUMIDITYLEVEL WILL BE FELT IN THE WAKE OF THE WARM FRONT.IN TERMS OF CONVECTION POTENTIAL SUNDAY AFTERNOON...MODERATEINSTABILITY LEVELS ARE LIKELY FROM NYC METRO AND POINTS WEST...WITHPOTENTIAL FOR POCKETS OF HIGH INSTABILITY ACROSS NE NJ/LOWER HUDSONVALLEY DEPENDING, THIS WILL DEPEND OF THE PERSISTENCE OF THE STEEPERMID-LEVEL LAPSE RATES AND WITH ANY BREAKS OF SUN. THE QUESTIONAPPEARS TO BE TRIGGER IN AFT...AS REGION COULD BE IN SOME WEAKSUBSIDENCE IN WAKE OF THE MORNING/EARLY AFT SHORTWAVE. AT THESURFACE...A THERMAL TROUGH IS LIKELY IN THE VICINITY OF NJ/LOWERHUDSON VALLEY WHICH COULD BE A FOCUS. INTERESTINGLY...THE NAM HOLDSTHE WARM FRONT ACROSS THE REGION DURING THE DAY...WHICH WOULD BE AFOCUS FOR ROTATING STORMS AND TRAINING THUNDERSTORMS/FLASH FLOODING.THIS IS A LOW PROB SOLUTION.FOR NOW...WILL HANDLE WITH GRADUALLY INCREASING CHANCE POPS IN THEAFTERNOON INTO THE EVENING FROM NYC AND POINTS N&W AS POTETNIAL FORAPPROACHING SHORTWAVE/JET ENERGY INCREASES. IF CONVECTION ISTRIGGERED...POTENTIAL IS THERE FOR ORGANIZED LINE SEGMENTS TO SEVERELEVELS BASED ON INSTABILITY...AND MODEST UNIDIRECTIONAL SHEARLEVELS.MODELS IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH LEAD SHORTWAVE ENERGY SWINGING THROUGHTHE REGION MON NIGHT...AHEAD OF A WEAKENING APPROACHING UPPER LOWAPPROACHES. AT THE SURFACE...ASSOCIATED LOW PRESSURE TRACKS THROUGHTHE EASTERN GREAT LAKES INTO CENTRAL NY SUN NIGHT...WITH A STRONGCOLD FRONT APPROACHING THE REGION. UNCERTAINTY STILL EXISTS IN TERMSOF CONVECTIVE COVERAGE WITH THIS FEATURE OVERNIGHT. MOST WIDESPREADACTIVITY WOULD BE WITH SURFACE LOW AND WARM FRONT ACROSS CENTRALNY/NEW ENGLAND. ALSO...SOME OF THE MODEL GUIDANCE INDICATES ASECONDARY LOW/TRIPLE POINT...POSSIBLY MCS RELATED...WORKING THROUGHMID-ATLANTIC INTO SOUTHERN NJ SUN NIGHT. TO THE SOUTH OF THE AREA WOULDBE THE MOST FAVORABLE MCS TRACK BASED ON WIND FIELDS/THETA-EGRADIENT. THE PRESENCE OF THIS TYPE OF FEATURE OVER OUR AREAS WOULDBRING POTENTIAL FOR ROTATING STORMS AND FLASH FLOODING INTO THEOVERNIGHT. CURRENTLY THAT LOOKS TO BE A LOW POTENTIAL. WITH ALL THATSAID...THE REGION COULD END UP BEING IN THE MIDDLE OF FAVORABLEREGIONS. BUT WITH STRONG FORCING/SHEAR...INCLUDING AN UNSEASONABLYSTRONG LLJ...AND STRONG COLD FRONT INTERACTING WITH A MARGINAL TOMODERATELY UNSTABLE ENVIRONMENT WOULD EXPECT ANY STRONG TO SEVERELATE DAY/EVE CONVECTION TO ONLY SLOWLY LOOSE INTENSITY AS IT WORKSEASTWARD. SO WILL CONTINUE WITH LIKELY POPS FOR SHRA AND SCATTEREDSTRONG TSTMS OVERNIGHT...TAPERING FROM W TO E LATE SUN NIGHT.&&.LONG TERM /SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY/...UPPER LVL CLOSED LOW POSITIONED OVER SOUTHERN CANADA DIGS TO THESOUTH MONDAY AND WILL REMAIN POSITIONED OVER THE NORTHEAST THROUGHMOST OF THE COMING WEEK. MEANWHILE...12Z MODEL SUITE CONTINUING WITHTHE DEVELOPMENT OF A SECONDARY LOW OVER THE EASTERN GREAT LAKESSUNDAY NIGHT...WITH THE MOVEMENT OF THE LOW PUSHING IT THROUGH NEWENGLAND MONDAY. AS THE LOW LIFTS NORTH OF THE AREA...ITS ASSOCIATEDCOLD FRONT WILL BE DRAGGED THROUGH. THE FRONT SHOULD CLEAR THEEASTERN AREAS BY MON NIGHT...BUT STALLING TO THE EAST WITH LITTLEMOVEMENT ALOFT ALLOWING IT TO PROGRESS FURTHER EAST TILL WED.EVENTUALLY HIGH PRESSURE WILL BEGIN TO BUILD IN WED AND SHOULD TAKEHOLD OF THE AREA THROUGH THE END OF THE WEEK. MODEL DISCREPANCIES INTHE HANDLING OF THE NEXT LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM BUT SOME FORM OF LOWPRESSURE WILL BEGIN TO APPROACH BY NEXT WEEKEND...THOUGH COULD HOLDOFF ANY IMPACTFUL WEATHER TILL THE WORK WEEK. Also just caught Dr. Greg Forbes on TWC, he is very concerned for a severe weather outbreak tomorrow in the Mid-atlantic & Northeast. Obviously there is still plenty of uncertainty on what affects us in the morning and what negative effects if any it may have on convection during the late afternoon and evening hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WE GOT HIM Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 SPC going big for today. You south shore guys could get in on the action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WE GOT HIM Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Still seems to be a lot of uncertainty ...SUMMARY... SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TODAY INTO TONIGHT ACROSS MUCH OF THE OHIO VALLEY AND MID ATLANTIC COAST REGION INTO PORTIONS OF SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND. SWATHS OF POTENTIALLY DAMAGING WIND GUSTS AND LARGE HAIL ARE POSSIBLE...PARTICULARLY ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE MID OHIO VALLEY INTO CENTRAL APPALACHIANS...WHERE A COUPLE OF TORNADOES MAY ALSO NOT BE OUT OF THE QUESTION. ...SYNOPSIS... MUCH AS HAS BEEN INDICATE BY THE MODELS...AMPLIFICATION APPEARS UNDERWAY WITHIN THE LARGE-SCALE UPPER FLOW PATTERN. AS SUBTROPICAL RIDGING BUILDS NORTHWARD THROUGH THE NORTHERN INTERMOUNTAIN REGION AND ROCKIES...A CLOSED LOW...WHICH HAS BEEN UNDERCUTTING THE BLOCKING HIGH OVER NORTHERN CANADA...IS CURRENTLY TURNING SOUTHEAST OF THE INTERNATIONAL BORDER AREA INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST. THIS FEATURE IS FORECAST TO CONTINUE DIGGING ACROSS SOUTHWESTERN PORTIONS OF THE GREAT LAKES REGION TODAY...BEFORE TURNING EASTWARD TOWARD THE NORTHERN MID ATLANTIC COAST AND SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND TONIGHT...TO THE SOUTH OF THE PERSISTENT EASTERN CANADIAN VORTEX. AS THIS OCCURS...SEASONABLY STRONG /50-70 KT/ CYCLONIC MID-LEVEL FLOW /700-500 MB/ IS EXPECTED TO NOSE SOUTHEASTWARD ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY TOWARD THE MID ATLANTIC COAST REGION. AND AN INITIAL SIGNIFICANT COLD FRONT LIKELY WILL SURGE SOUTHEASTWARD THROUGH MUCH OF THE MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI AND OHIO/TENNESSEE VALLEYS BY 12Z MONDAY. WITH MOISTURE SEASONABLY HIGH BENEATH THE REMNANTS OF ELEVATED MIXED LAYER AIR STILL PRESENT ACROSS THE MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY THROUGH A LARGE PORTION OF THE OHIO VALLEY...SUFFICIENT POTENTIAL INSTABILITY EXISTS TO SUPPORT WIDESPREAD THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY TODAY. THIS WILL INCLUDE THE RISK FOR SEVERE STORMS...IN THE PRESENCE OF ANOMALOUSLY STRONG DEEP LAYER FLOW FIELDS AND SHEAR. OTHERWISE...LINGERING MONSOONAL MOISTURE ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PLATEAU/GREAT BASIN INTO THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN ROCKIES...AND EASTWARD ALONG A FRONTAL ZONE ADVANCING INTO THE SOUTH CENTRAL PLAINS...IS EXPECTED TO CONTRIBUTE TO CONSIDERABLE THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY TODAY. ADDITIONAL SCATTERED THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY IS PROBABLE IN THE CONTINUING PRESENCE OF HIGH MOISTURE CONTENT AIR NEAR CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN FLORIDA PENINSULA ATLANTIC COASTAL AREAS. ...OHIO VALLEY INTO MID ATLANTIC COAST/SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND... CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT NOW SPREADING ACROSS THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS REGION...AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT WHICH STILL MAY OCCUR UPSTREAM OVER THE MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY PRIOR TO DAYBREAK...PROVIDE UNCERTAINTY CONCERNING THE EXTENT AND MODE OF THE SEVERE WEATHER POTENTIAL FOR TODAY. THE WEAKENING LEAD CONVECTION APPEARS TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH AN IMPULSE THAT EMERGED FROM THE SOUTHWESTERN U.S. MONSOONAL REGIME. THIS FEATURE IS FORECAST TO SHIFT EAST OF THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS INTO MID ATLANTIC COASTAL AREAS BY MIDDAY...WHERE ASSOCIATED FORCING MAY SUPPORT RENEWED STRONG/SEVERE STORM DEVELOPMENT IN THE PRESENCE OF A DESTABILIZING BOUNDARY LAYER. IN ITS WAKE...DEPENDING ON THE EVOLUTION OF UPSTREAM CONVECTION...IT APPEARS POSSIBLE THAT A TRAILING LOW-LEVEL BAROCLINIC ZONE ACROSS THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS INTO THE MIDDLE OHIO VALLEY COULD BECOME A FOCUS FOR DISCRETE STORM DEVELOPMENT...AS THE MAIN UPSTREAM IMPULSE CONTINUES TO DIG ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES. IF THIS OCCURS...MOST GUIDANCE SUGGESTS THAT STRENGTHENING DEEP LAYER FLOW FIELDS AND SHEAR...INCLUDING SIZABLE CLOCKWISE CURVED LOW-LEVEL HODOGRAPHS...WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF SUPERCELLS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING STRONG TORNADOES. CONFIDENCE REMAINS RELATIVELY LOW AT THE PRESENT TIME...BUT THE BOUNDARY WOULD SEEM TO FOCUS THE HIGHEST TORNADO PROBABILITIES ACROSS PARTS OF EASTERN KENTUCKY INTO WEST VIRGINIA. THE EVOLUTION OF A SIGNIFICANT PRE-FRONTAL SQUALL LINE ALSO DOES NOT APPEAR OUT OF THE QUESTION...AS STRONGEST MID/UPPER FORCING FOR UPWARD VERTICAL MOTION DEVELOPS SOUTHEASTWARD ACROSS THE MIDDLE OHIO VALLEY INTO THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS BY EARLY THIS EVENING...BEFORE CONTINUING TOWARD THE MID ATLANTIC COAST OVERNIGHT. AGAIN THIS LARGELY DEPENDS ON THE CONVECTIVE EVOLUTION PRIOR TO MID AFTERNOON...WHICH STILL REMAINS UNCLEAR AT THE PRESENT TIME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Showers developing near Allentown, PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I think many will be startled off the toilet seat while reading their morning newspaper come tomorrow morning, when all of a sudden it goes crash outside, and looks like night at 7:30 in the morning. Put on traffic and weather channel and see giant red blobs dotted over the area. I'd say close the potty, turn off the faucet, get out of the shower watch for tomorrow morning. I'd say SVR risk is there for tomorrow morning: Warm front mini super cells riding NE from NJ and PA 15 % wind 10 % tor 5 % hail -6 LI 2500 Cape 45 knt shear WVA, SE OH and WMD look like super cell city tomorrow. MDT risk ??? Sunday night: Squall line possible from West. May miss to the south. -5 LI 1500 Cape 35 knt shear 15% wind 5% tor 10% hail Looks like this mornings severe potential is the one that will be going in the crapper - and the key is how unstable we get and the amount of daytime heating will determine the severe potential and outcome later today and this evening. This is going to be another nowcasting event IMO meaning don't rely on the models that much as they have let us down in recent severe events just watch this satellite to see if there will be any clearing and radar trends http://climate.cod.edu/flanis/satellite/1km/index.php?type=LongIsland-vis-12 http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?zoommode=pan&prevzoom=zoomν Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcad1 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Looks like this morning is in the crapper cause the warm frontal passage was delayed. Hopefully we can get some sun today or this afternoon and evening might be in the crapper as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Looks like this mornings severe potential is the one that will be going in the crapper - and the key to how unstable we get and the amount of daytime heating will determine the severe potential and outcome later today and this evening. This is going to be another nowcasting event IMO meaning don't rely on the models that much as they have let us down in recent severe events just watch this satellite to see if there will be any clearing and radar trends http://climate.cod.edu/flanis/satellite/1km/index.php?type=LongIsland-vis-12 http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?zoommode=pan&prevzoom=zoomν I woke up this morning to a radar that was very far from impressive and not what i wanted to see on a day that was forecasted to have some great morning severe potential. Who knows may still change, but as of right now it looks like just heavy rain with some thunder/lightning......that said going fishing when i get off at 1 today from captree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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